<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[A Mind Less Wasted]]></title><description><![CDATA[Reclaim your mind through curiosity, critical thinking, and evidence-based inquiry.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nC8o!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f112a39-f4cb-4680-9f96-fe25d7d00507_512x512.png</url><title>A Mind Less Wasted</title><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2026 13:05:29 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[CYBERMIDI Digital Works LLC]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[amindlesswasted@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[amindlesswasted@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[amindlesswasted@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[amindlesswasted@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Your Dog Is Reading You. Your Cat Is Testing You.]]></title><description><![CDATA[Are pets smarter than we think, or are we asking the wrong questions?]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/dog-is-reading-you-cat-is-testing-you</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/dog-is-reading-you-cat-is-testing-you</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2026 11:30:55 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJjM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb216f6dc-c6fa-4d71-8f27-b94e9651e33c_1603x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJjM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb216f6dc-c6fa-4d71-8f27-b94e9651e33c_1603x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJjM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb216f6dc-c6fa-4d71-8f27-b94e9651e33c_1603x941.jpeg 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Ask a cat the same question and she may solve the problem, inspect the researcher, wash one paw and leave.</p><p>The obvious conclusion is that the dog is smarter.</p><p>The less obvious conclusion is that we may have designed an intelligence test that rewards behaving like a dog.</p><p>This is one of the problems scientists face when they study animal minds. Dogs and cats cannot explain how they reached an answer. They cannot tell a researcher, &#8220;I followed your finger because I understood that you were directing my attention,&#8221; or, &#8220;I understood perfectly, but your snack was inadequate.&#8221; Researchers have to infer what the animal knows from what it does.</p><p>That makes the original question, <em>Can dogs and cats think critically?</em>, harder than it sounds.</p><div><hr></div><h3>First, what do we mean by critical thinking?</h3><p>When we use the term for people, we usually mean more than solving a puzzle. Critical thinking includes weighing evidence, comparing explanations, noticing contradictions, reconsidering assumptions, and recognizing when our information is incomplete.</p><p>There is no good evidence that dogs or cats can examine an argument, question the reliability of a source, or consciously audit their own beliefs. Your cat may look judgmental, but that is not the same as peer review.</p><p>What pets do show are some of the smaller abilities from which more complex thinking is built: memory, inference, expectation, flexible learning, impulse control, information seeking, and sensitivity to cause and effect. Scientists study those pieces one at a time.</p><p>And once they do, the familiar household stereotypes become considerably less reliable.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B1Jh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe654331e-8e98-4495-b9ec-8b8d033dfc63_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B1Jh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe654331e-8e98-4495-b9ec-8b8d033dfc63_1672x941.png 424w, 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They follow our gaze and gestures, distinguish some of our emotional expressions, and notice where our attention is directed. Point toward the cup containing food and many dogs understand that the gesture refers to something beyond the finger itself. Anyone who has watched a person point at an object while a cat stares directly at the finger will appreciate that this is not a trivial accomplishment.</p><p>Some of that sensitivity appears remarkably early. In a <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34087106/">2021 study of 375 eight-week-old puppies</a>, the puppies successfully used human gestures despite having had limited experience with people. Within that group, genetic factors accounted for more than 40 percent of the variation in point-following and attention to human faces.</p><p>Dogs did not merely learn to tolerate us. Over many generations, they became specialists in us.</p><p>That specialization can look a lot like reasoning because sometimes it is. In one experiment, dogs watched a reward being placed behind one of two barriers. On other trials, they were prevented from seeing where it went. When they had not seen the hiding place, the dogs were more likely to seek additional visual information before choosing. The researchers cautiously described this as evidence consistent with a basic form of metacognition: <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6276073/">the dogs behaved differently when they lacked information</a>.</p><p>That does not prove a dog sits there thinking, <em>I should reserve judgment until I have reviewed the evidence.</em> Simpler learned strategies may produce some of the same behavior. Still, the dog recognized uncertainty well enough to investigate before committing. Plenty of internet arguments would improve immediately if humans did the same.</p><p>Some dogs also display startling powers of inference. Rico, a border collie studied in 2004, could retrieve more than 200 objects by name. When researchers placed a new object among familiar ones and used an unfamiliar word, Rico often selected the new object, apparently reasoning by exclusion: <em>I know the names of those seven, so the new sound probably means this one.</em> He could still retrieve some of the newly named objects four weeks later. It was an exceptional case, not a description of the average dog, but it showed that at least some dogs can do more than memorize commands. They can use what they already know to narrow down an answer. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15192233/">The Rico study appeared in </a><em><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15192233/">Science</a></em><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15192233/">.</a></p><p>Dogs are also so good at reading people that we sometimes mistake their skill for something else.</p><p>Consider the famous guilty look: lowered head, tucked tail, averted eyes, perhaps a slow retreat from the scene of a murdered sofa cushion. It certainly looks like remorse. In Alexandra Horowitz&#8217;s <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19520245/">2009 experiment</a>, however, dogs showed more &#8220;guilty&#8221; behavior when their owners scolded them, including dogs that had obeyed and had not eaten the forbidden treat. The expression tracked the owner&#8217;s reaction better than the dog&#8217;s actual offense.</p><p>The dog may not have been confessing. 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A dog&#8217;s intelligence is easy to see because dogs often demonstrate it in cooperation with us. A cat may possess the information and see no reason to provide a live demonstration.</p><p>In a <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23525707/">2013 study</a>, cats heard recordings of three strangers followed by their owner, all calling the cat&#8217;s name while out of sight. The cats became less responsive as the unfamiliar voices continued, then showed a renewed reaction to the owner&#8217;s voice. Their responses were usually small movements of the ears or head, not an enthusiastic reunion.</p><p>The finding was not that cats come when called. Let&#8217;s keep this within the boundaries of credible science. It was that they could recognize who was calling.</p><p>Research published in 2019 found that cats could also <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-40616-4">distinguish their own names from other words</a>, even when an unfamiliar person spoke. This does not show that a cat understands a name as a human understands personal identity. The name may simply predict food, affection, play, a carrier appearing from the closet or some other event worth monitoring. But the cat is not necessarily ignoring you because the sound failed to register. Sometimes the message has been received and the request has been denied.</p><p>Cats also appear to learn more about household conversations than we deliberately teach them. In a <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10261-5">2022 study</a>, household cats heard the name of a familiar companion cat and then saw a photograph. They looked longer when the name and face did not match, suggesting that they had learned which name belonged to which cat through ordinary life, without formal training.</p><p>Then there is the matter of surveillance.</p><p>Researchers placed cats in a room with speakers in different locations. The owner&#8217;s voice first came from one place and then suddenly from another. The cats appeared more surprised when their owner seemed to have teleported across the room, suggesting that they had been <a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0257611">mentally tracking the unseen owner&#8217;s location</a>.</p><p>Your cat may appear to be asleep. Your cat may also know exactly where you are.</p><p>Feline reasoning is not limited to keeping tabs on the staff. In a 2016 experiment, researchers shook a container that either rattled or remained silent, then turned it over. Cats looked longer when events violated the expected relationship between sound and object, such as a silent container suddenly producing an object. The results suggested that cats could <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27299293/">use sound to predict the presence of something they could not see</a>.</p><p>No, this does not mean cats understand Newtonian physics. It does mean they notice when the physical world fails to behave as expected. For an animal that often hunts prey it cannot see, reasoning from faint sounds is a useful talent.</p><p>More recently, a small <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-74006-2">2024 experiment</a> found that cats quickly associated two invented words with two animated pictures. When the pairings were switched, they looked longer, as if the change violated what they had just learned. The study involved only 31 cats and does not give them human language, but it adds to the evidence that cats are quietly collecting associations while we assume they are thinking about curtains.</p><p>They may be thinking about the curtains too. Both things can be true.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Are we giving them the wrong exam?</h3><p>Comparing dogs and cats is tempting, but cognition is not one race with one finish line. A species can be excellent at social communication and less impressive at physical problem-solving. Another can be an expert at spatial tracking but uninterested in following instructions from a stranger holding a clipboard.</p><p>In a <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15982161/">2005 comparison</a>, both dogs and cats used human pointing to locate hidden food, with no significant difference between them. When the food was made inaccessible, however, dogs were more likely to look toward a person and solicit help. Cats kept working on the problem more independently.</p><p>What does that tell us? Perhaps dogs are better communicators. Perhaps cats are more persistent. Perhaps dogs treat humans as partners while cats treat us as furniture capable of opening cans. The behavior is real, but the label we attach to it requires care.</p><p>A <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-45008-3">2023 study</a> illustrates the problem neatly. Dogs outperformed cats at following a distant pointing gesture, but cats also made far fewer choices and became less willing to participate as the laboratory trials continued. When tested at home, their willingness did not decline in the same way. The researchers discussed stress, motivation, restraint and the unfamiliar setting as possible influences.</p><p>So a laboratory result may measure several things at once: comprehension, attention, confidence, hunger, comfort and willingness to humor a graduate student.</p><p>This does not mean every failed test hides a secret feline genius. It means that a score is not pure intelligence poured into a measuring cup. Reviews of animal-cognition methods warn that attention, motivation, personality, sensory abilities and test design can all influence performance. A fair test has to fit the animal well enough to measure the ability it claims to measure.</p><p>If intelligence were judged by following a pointed finger, dogs would do very well. If the test involved locating a nearly silent movement behind a wall, the cat might demand a recount. If it required identifying the contents of a trash can from across the yard, the dog would regain the lead.</p><p>Humans would be eliminated in the first round.</p><div><hr></div><h3>So, can they think critically?</h3><p>Not in the full human sense, as far as the evidence shows. Dogs and cats do not appear to evaluate formal arguments, compare published sources or deliberately challenge an ideology. They do, however, remember, infer, predict, seek information, and revise their behavior when circumstances change. Those are genuine cognitive abilities, and some are ingredients of critical thinking.</p><p>The most accurate answer is that pets possess forms of practical reasoning suited to their lives.</p><p>A dog&#8217;s world has been shaped by cooperation with people. Reading our faces, hands, voices, and attention can be more useful than solving an abstract mechanical puzzle. A cat&#8217;s world rewards spatial awareness, patience, sound-based inference and independent action. Neither mind is a smaller copy of ours, and the two are not smaller copies of each other.</p><p>The interesting question, then, is not whether a pet can think like a person. It is whether we can design a question that allows the animal to think like itself.</p><p>Your dog is reading you. Your cat heard you the first time. And both may be revealing as much about the intelligence of the examiner as the intelligence of the pet.</p><p>The dog reads the room. The cat reads the room and decides whether the room deserves a response.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If this made you look at your pets a little differently, subscribe to <em>A Mind Less Wasted</em>. There are always more questions hiding in plain sight&#8212;and we&#8217;re going to keep asking them.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Selected research and sources</h2><ul><li><p>Emily E. Bray et al., <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34087106/">&#8220;Early-emerging and highly heritable sensitivity to </a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34087106/">human communication in dogs&#8221;</a>, <em>Current Biology</em>, 2021.</p></li><li><p>Julia Belger and Juliane Br&#228;uer, <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6276073/">&#8220;Metacognition in dogs: Do dogs know they could be wrong?&#8221;</a>, <em>Learning &amp; Behavior</em>, 2018.</p></li><li><p>Juliane Kaminski, Josep Call and Julia Fischer, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15192233/">&#8220;Word learning in a domestic dog: Evidence for &#8216;fast mapping&#8217;&#8221;</a>, <em>Science</em>, 2004.</p></li><li><p>Alexandra Horowitz, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19520245/">&#8220;Disambiguating the &#8216;guilty look&#8217;&#8221;</a>, <em>Behavioural Processes</em>, 2009.</p></li><li><p>&#193;d&#225;m Mikl&#243;si et al., <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15982161/">comparison of dogs&#8217; and cats&#8217; use of human visual signals</a>, <em>Journal of Comparative Psychology</em>, 2005.</p></li><li><p>Atsuko Saito and Kazutaka Shinozuka, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23525707/">&#8220;Vocal recognition of owners by domestic cats&#8221;</a>, <em>Animal Cognition</em>, 2013.</p></li><li><p>Atsuko Saito et al., <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-40616-4">&#8220;Domestic cats discriminate their names from other words&#8221;</a>, <em>Scientific Reports</em>, 2019.</p></li><li><p>Saho Takagi et al., <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27299293/">&#8220;There&#8217;s no ball without noise: Cats&#8217; prediction of an object from noise&#8221;</a>, <em>Animal Cognition</em>, 2016.</p></li><li><p>Saho Takagi et al., <a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0257611">&#8220;Socio-spatial cognition in cats: Mentally mapping owner&#8217;s location from voice&#8221;</a>, <em>PLOS ONE</em>, 2021.</p></li><li><p>Saho Takagi et al., <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10261-5">&#8220;Cats learn the names of their friend cats in their daily lives&#8221;</a>, <em>Scientific Reports</em>, 2022.</p></li><li><p>Saho Takagi et al., <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-74006-2">&#8220;Rapid formation of picture-word association in cats&#8221;</a>, <em>Scientific Reports</em>, 2024.</p></li><li><p>Attila Salamon et al., <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-45008-3">direct comparison of dogs and cats using human pointing gestures</a>, <em>Scientific Reports</em>, 2023.</p></li><li><p>Mich&#232;le N. Schubiger, Claudia Fichtel and Judith M. Burkart, <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.01835/full">review of validity and confounding factors in animal-cognition tests</a>, <em>Frontiers in Psychology</em>, 2020.</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Vaccine Placebo Claim: We Checked the Viral ICAN Chart]]></title><description><![CDATA[What the FDA records actually show about controls, safety follow-up, and the childhood vaccine schedule]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-vaccine-placebo-claim-we-checked</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-vaccine-placebo-claim-we-checked</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2026 12:32:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-CZk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea60dbc9-f36a-4cdb-86cb-9421d5307e0f_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-CZk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea60dbc9-f36a-4cdb-86cb-9421d5307e0f_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-CZk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea60dbc9-f36a-4cdb-86cb-9421d5307e0f_1672x941.jpeg 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It makes its argument before you have read a single study.</p><p>Row after row ends with a bright red <strong>NO</strong>. Beside those red boxes are safety review periods such as 4 days, 5 days, 30 days, and <strong>42 days</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zysl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f3818c-f3f3-40cc-9573-cd2bcbe2f838_690x848.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zysl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f3818c-f3f3-40cc-9573-cd2bcbe2f838_690x848.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zysl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f3818c-f3f3-40cc-9573-cd2bcbe2f838_690x848.png 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Then comes the claim:</p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Not a SINGLE routine injected childhood vaccine was licensed based on a placebo controlled trial.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>Another version adds that most ordinary drugs are licensed after multi-year placebo-controlled trials, while most childhood vaccines receive only days or weeks of safety review.</p><p>Put those statements together, and the conclusion seems obvious:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Childhood vaccines were never properly safety tested.</strong></p></div><p>But that is not actually what the chart proves. And this is where the story gets interesting.</p><p>The ICAN chart is not simply fabricated. Many of its numbers come from real FDA package inserts and clinical reviews. Some of the limitations it points to are real. Some prelicensure monitoring periods were short. Some currently marketed vaccines were compared with other vaccines rather than an inert saline injection.</p><p>That is exactly why this deserves something better than a quick <strong>TRUE</strong> or <strong>FALSE</strong> stamp.</p><p>The question is not whether the chart contains facts.</p><p>It does.</p><p>The question is whether those facts support the conclusion people are being encouraged to draw from them.</p><p>This article is <strong>not</strong> arguing that every vaccine trial was ideally designed, that every follow-up period was long enough, or that an inert placebo is never preferable. We are asking a narrower question: <strong>Does the evidence in this chart justify the much broader claim that childhood vaccines were never properly safety tested?</strong></p><div><hr></div><h2>Start With the Wording</h2><p>Read the headline carefully:</p><p><strong>&#8220;None of the vaccine doses the CDC recommends for routine injection into children were licensed by the FDA based on a long-term placebo-controlled trial.&#8221;</strong></p><p>There are several important qualifiers packed into that sentence:</p><ul><li><p><strong>routine</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>injection</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>licensed based on</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>long-term</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>placebo-controlled</strong></p></li></ul><p>Notice that <strong>&#8220;long-term&#8221; is not a self-defining scientific threshold</strong>. Does it mean six months? One year? Several years? Before accepting an absolute claim built around that phrase, we should know what duration is being required and why.</p><p>Every qualifier narrows the claim.</p><p>That matters.</p><p>Consider these three statements:</p><ul><li><p><strong>This exact currently marketed vaccine formulation was not licensed based on a long-term trial against an inert saline control.</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>This vaccine was never tested against a placebo.</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Therefore, we do not know whether this vaccine is safe.</strong></p></li></ul><p>They sound related.</p><p>They are not equivalent.</p><p>The first statement can be true without establishing either of the other two.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/i/210171785?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-Ju!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7430e251-c11b-4be9-8975-b568928d3d93_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h3>A True Fact Can Still Create a False Impression</h3><p>Critical thinking is not simply determining whether someone quoted a number correctly.</p><p>Ask what conclusion the number is being used to support.</p><p>A statement can be narrowly true while creating a much broader impression that the evidence does not establish.</p><p>That distinction will matter throughout this article.</p></div><div><hr></div><h1>What Counts as a Placebo?</h1><p>A lot of this argument revolves around one word.</p><p><strong>Placebo.</strong></p><p>In online vaccine debates, placebo is frequently treated as another word for <strong>saline</strong>.</p><p>Saline can certainly be used as an inert placebo. But clinical trials are not required to use the same type of control in every situation.</p><p>One distinction is important: <strong>another vaccine is an active comparator, not a placebo.</strong> The point is not that every control should be called a placebo. It is that a randomized controlled trial can use different kinds of control groups, and each design answers a somewhat different question.</p><p>FDA regulations recognize several kinds of controlled drug trials, including placebo controls, dose-comparison controls, no-treatment controls, active-treatment controls, and historical controls. The FDA specifically recognizes that different controls may be appropriate in different clinical settings. (<a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/133660/download?attachment">U.S. Food and Drug Administration</a>)</p><p>FDA&#8217;s own description of vaccine development similarly explains that vaccine study control groups may receive an approved vaccine, a placebo or another substance, depending on the trial. Phase 3 trials generally involve thousands of participants and gather both effectiveness and additional safety information. (<a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/development-approval-process-cber/vaccine-development-101">U.S. Food and Drug Administration</a>)</p><p>Why would researchers use an active control instead of saline?</p><p>Sometimes the question is whether a new vaccine performs at least as well as an existing vaccine. Sometimes withholding an established preventive intervention would expose participants to avoidable risk.</p><p>But there is a limitation here that shouldn&#8217;t be brushed aside.</p><p>If you want to determine the absolute difference in adverse events between receiving a vaccine and receiving an inert injection, an active comparator cannot answer that question by itself.</p><p>That is a legitimate criticism.</p><p>What does <strong>not</strong> follow is that an active-control study provides no useful safety information.</p><p>If Vaccine A is compared with Vaccine B, researchers can still determine whether one group experiences substantially more of the measured outcomes than the other.</p><p>That is comparative safety information. What it does <strong>not</strong> establish by itself is the absolute adverse-event rate compared with receiving no vaccine or an inert injection.</p><p>Even the word <strong>&#8220;placebo&#8221;</strong> does not always mean a solution containing nothing but saline literally. In blinded trials, a placebo may contain inactive formulation ingredients so that it resembles the study product, while an <strong>active comparator</strong> is a different category altogether because it contains another active intervention.</p><p>The better question is not simply:</p><p><strong>Was there saline in the other syringe?</strong></p><p>It is:</p><p><strong>What question was the trial designed to answer, and was the comparator capable of answering it?</strong></p><div><hr></div><h1>We Checked the Red Boxes</h1><p>Once you leave the graphic and open the underlying records, the picture gets more complicated very quickly.</p><h2>Hepatitis B: The Short Follow-Up Criticism Is Real</h2><p>This is one area where critics have a legitimate point.</p><p>The Recombivax HB prescribing information says that three clinical studies administered 434 doses to <strong>147 healthy infants and children</strong> up to age 10. They were monitored for <strong>five days after each dose</strong> for the adverse reactions described in that section. (<a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=b5bd99e4-569d-48d5-ba75-16e69f8c409a&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">DailyMed</a>)</p><p>The Engerix-B label says that 13,495 doses were administered to 5,071 healthy adults and children, including healthy neonates, across 36 studies. Participants were monitored for <strong>four days after administration</strong>. (<a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=2ec65f7e-4aa2-4b41-b578-885ea59d6e9d">DailyMed</a>)</p><p>Those really are short monitoring windows. There is no need to pretend otherwise.</p><p>Could five days of observation in 147 infants and children, by itself, exclude an adverse event that appears several weeks later?</p><p>No.</p><p>Could it reliably detect an adverse event occurring once in 50,000 or 100,000 recipients?</p><p>Of course not. The sample isn&#8217;t remotely large enough. That is a fair limitation of that particular prelicensure safety dataset.</p><p>But another mistake occurs when that observation turns into:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Hepatitis B vaccines were never tested against placebo.&#8221;</strong></p><p><strong>They were.</strong></p><p>A 1984 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial studied hepatitis B vaccination in <strong>high-risk newborns born to mothers who were HBeAg-positive hepatitis B carriers</strong>.</p><p>Infants were assigned to several vaccine and hepatitis B immunoglobulin regimens or placebo. The first injections were administered within an hour of birth, and comparisons were reported among infants followed during a trial lasting 495 days. (<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673684923882">ScienceDirect</a>)</p><p>There is an important qualification.</p><p>That was an earlier <strong>plasma-derived hepatitis B vaccine</strong>, not the exact recombinant Recombivax HB or Engerix-B formulations used today.</p><p>We shouldn&#8217;t erase that distinction. But we shouldn&#8217;t erase the trial either. So the accurate version is considerably less dramatic:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>The currently used recombinant hepatitis B vaccines were not individually licensed through the type of long-term inert-placebo trial critics argue should have been required. Earlier hepatitis B vaccines were studied in randomized placebo-controlled trials, including in newborns.</strong></p></div><p>Both statements can be true. That is often where critical thinking gets interesting.</p><div><hr></div><h1>&#8220;Seven Days of Safety Testing&#8221; Can Be Technically True and Deeply Misleading</h1><p>One of the most persuasive columns in the ICAN chart is labeled <strong>Safety Review After Injection</strong>.</p><p>You see:</p><p><strong>4 days</strong></p><p><strong>5 days</strong></p><p><strong>30 days</strong></p><p><strong>42 days</strong></p><p>A reasonable reader can come away believing researchers simply stopped looking after that number of days. Sometimes the cited monitoring period really is short, as we just saw with the hepatitis B labels. Other times it represents only one layer of the safety monitoring.</p><h2><em>Daptacel</em></h2><p>For Daptacel, parents recorded solicited local and systemic adverse events during <strong>days 0 through 7</strong>.</p><p>Stop reading there, and you might reasonably say:</p><p><strong>Seven days of safety testing.</strong></p><p>Keep reading.</p><p>The same prescribing information says investigators made periodic telephone calls to inquire about adverse events and that <strong>serious adverse events were monitored through six months after the last dose</strong> in the three U.S. studies. (<a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=06f34d0f-4e72-41d3-967f-8abf3f2005c1">DailyMed</a>)</p><p>Seven days was a monitoring period.</p><p>It was not the entire safety follow-up.</p><h2><em>Prevnar 13</em></h2><p>Prevnar 13 makes the problem even clearer.</p><p>Parents recorded specified local and systemic reactions for seven days after each vaccination.</p><p>Unsolicited adverse events were monitored over longer periods.</p><p>Information concerning <strong>serious adverse events, newly diagnosed chronic medical conditions, and hospitalizations</strong> was collected during later visits and again through a scripted telephone interview six months after the fourth dose. Serious adverse events were collected throughout the study period. (<a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=e8c6b638-c22f-4c20-ba40-b9d5e85c9541&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">DailyMed</a>)</p><p>Reducing all of that to a box that says <strong>7 days</strong> changes the impression of what happened.</p><p>The number is not necessarily false.</p><p>The interpretation is incomplete.</p><h2><em>Gardasil 9</em></h2><p>FDA&#8217;s current Gardasil 9 prescribing information makes the distinction even clearer. Unsolicited systemic adverse reactions were collected during the short post-vaccination window, but <strong>serious adverse events were collected throughout the entire study period across seven clinical studies, with follow-up ranging from one month to 48 months after the last dose</strong>.</p><p>That does not mean every possible adverse event was actively solicited for four years. It does mean that describing Gardasil 9 as having only a few days or weeks of &#8220;safety review&#8221; leaves out a substantial part of the actual follow-up.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/i/210171785?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ro4n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b4781cd-fe6c-4907-8bae-799a051a4f71_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Ask &#8220;Days of What?&#8221;</h3><p>Someone tells you:</p><p><strong>&#8220;This vaccine was safety tested for only seven days.&#8221;</strong></p><p>Before arguing, ask:</p><p><strong>Seven days of what?</strong></p><p>Was that seven days of recording fever and injection-site pain?</p><ul><li><p>Seven days for all unsolicited medical events?</p></li><li><p>Seven days for hospitalizations?</p></li><li><p>Seven days for serious adverse events?</p></li><li><p>Seven days of total participant follow-up?</p></li></ul><p>Until you know what the clock was measuring, the number alone doesn&#8217;t tell you very much.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Then We Got to Varivax</h1><p>This is where our audit uncovered something much more interesting.</p><p>Look at the Varivax row in the ICAN chart.</p><p>The control is described as containing approximately <strong>45 milligrams of neomycin per milliliter</strong>.</p><p>That number wasn&#8217;t invented by ICAN.</p><p>It came from the scientific literature. And it sat there for more than forty years.</p><p>There was just one problem.</p><p><strong>It was wrong.</strong></p><p>In December 2025, the <em>New England Journal of Medicine</em> formally corrected its 1984 varicella vaccine study. The original paper said the vaccine contained 45 mg of neomycin per milliliter.</p><p>The corrected amount is:</p><p><strong>no more than 0.64 micrograms per milliliter.</strong></p><p>The journal also corrected the description of the placebo. Rather than containing approximately 45 mg/mL, it consisted of lyophilized stabilizer containing approximately the <strong>same trace concentrations of neomycin as the vaccine</strong>. (<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMx250021">New England Journal of Medicine</a>)</p><p>That is not a rounding error.</p><p>Forty-five milligrams is roughly <strong>70,000 times</strong> 0.64 micrograms.</p><p>There is an important fairness point here.</p><p>The ICAN chart shown above is dated October 2023.</p><p>The NEJM correction was not published until December 2025.</p><p>ICAN could not have cited a correction that didn&#8217;t exist.</p><p>But the graphic continues to circulate today.</p><p>And that row is now outdated.</p><p>The underlying study is even more interesting.</p><p>The 1984 trial was <strong>double-blind and placebo-controlled</strong>. It enrolled 956 children between ages 1 and 14. Among the 914 confirmed to be susceptible to chickenpox, 468 received vaccine and 446 received placebo.</p><p>During nine months of surveillance, 39 clinically diagnosed chickenpox cases occurred.</p><p><strong>All 39 were in the placebo group.</strong> (<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJM198405313102201?utm_source=chatgpt.com">New England Journal of Medicine</a>)</p><p>The current FDA Varivax insert explicitly says that its protective efficacy was established in part by a <strong>placebo-controlled, double-blind clinical trial</strong>. (<a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/119865/download">U.S. Food and Drug Administration</a>)</p><p>That trial was primarily designed to establish <strong>efficacy</strong>, not to rule out very rare or long-latency adverse events. Its relevance here is narrower: it shows that a placebo-controlled trial of the varicella vaccine did, in fact, exist.</p><p>But here comes another important qualification.</p><p>The FDA also says that the placebo trial used an earlier formulation containing <strong>17,000 PFU per dose</strong>, rather than the exact current vaccine formulation. (<a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/119865/download">U.S. Food and Drug Administration</a>)</p><p>Now compare these two statements:</p><p><strong>&#8220;The exact current Varivax formulation was not tested in that placebo-controlled trial.&#8221;</strong></p><p>True.</p><p><strong>&#8220;There was no placebo-controlled trial of the chickenpox vaccine.&#8221;</strong></p><p>False.</p><p>Same evidence. Very different claim.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/i/210171785?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rQDH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c98f70-cb05-4f8d-94fa-74d608d51aae_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Following a Citation Is Not the End of Fact-Checking</h3><p>A citation can be real and still be outdated. A respected journal can publish an error and correct it decades later. A chart can accurately quote a source and still become wrong when that source changes.</p><p>The presence of a citation proves that somebody cited something.</p><p>It does not prove the conclusion.</p><p>Sometimes <strong>#FollowTheEvidence</strong> means following the citation one step farther than the person who posted it.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Rotarix Disappears Because of One Word</h1><p>Consider Rotarix.</p><p>The FDA licensing review describes a Phase 3 study that was <strong>randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, multinational, and involved roughly 60,000 infants</strong>.</p><p>One of its primary safety objectives specifically evaluated intussusception, a rare but serious bowel complication, during the defined post-vaccination risk period. (<a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/statistical-review-and-evaluation-rotarix">U.S. Food and Drug Administration</a>)</p><p>That is a very large randomized, placebo-controlled vaccine trial in infants.</p><p>But there is an important limitation to what this example proves. It does not settle Siri&#8217;s narrower argument about whether a control was completely inert or saline. Its relevance here is simpler: <strong>a large randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled childhood vaccine trial clearly existed.</strong></p><p>So why doesn&#8217;t it count in the viral claim?</p><p>Because you swallow it.</p><p>Rotarix is an <strong>oral</strong> vaccine. It isn&#8217;t injected.</p><p>That one word, <strong>injected</strong>, removes a roughly 60,000-infant randomized placebo-controlled trial from the discussion.</p><p>This is why qualifiers matter.</p><p>The broad social-media claim sounds like:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Childhood vaccines were never placebo tested.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The defensible version becomes something closer to:</p><p><strong>&#8220;The exact currently marketed standalone routine injected childhood vaccines were not licensed based on the particular kind of long-term inert-control trial we are defining as acceptable.&#8221;</strong></p><p>That is not nearly as memorable.</p><p>But it is much closer to the actual argument.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Fluzone Creates Another Problem for the Sweeping Claim</h1><p>The current Fluzone prescribing information contains another inconvenient example.</p><p>A study in children ages 6 through 24 months was <strong>randomized, double-blind and placebo-controlled</strong>.</p><p>There were 786 children in the intent-to-treat population.</p><p><strong>525 received Fluzone.</strong></p><p><strong>261 received placebo.</strong> (<a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?audience=consumer&amp;setid=ced9a8b6-ef2c-a620-c61c-ff9374249543&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">DailyMed</a>)</p><p>And here the control really was saline.</p><p>The label identifies the placebo as <strong>0.4% NaCl</strong>. It also reports 12 months of follow-up in the first influenza season and six months in the second. (<a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=5fe0ce14-bc11-4b43-b002-7efdca0d3003">DailyMed</a>)</p><p>That does not mean every annual flu formulation has subsequently undergone a brand-new saline-controlled trial. Influenza strains change, and updated formulations introduce a separate regulatory question.</p><p>That does not refute Siri&#8217;s narrowly worded claim about what a particular formulation was &#8220;licensed based on.&#8221; It does refute the much broader claim people routinely take from it: that injected childhood vaccines simply have not been tested against saline controls.</p><div><hr></div><h1>What About &#8220;Most Drugs Get Multi-Year Placebo Trials&#8221;?</h1><p>This may be the least examined part of the viral claim.</p><p>The post says:</p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Most drugs are licensed based on multi year placebo controlled trials.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>That creates a powerful contrast.</p><p>Ordinary drugs supposedly face years of placebo testing.</p><p>Vaccines supposedly get four days.</p><p>Except there is no general FDA rule requiring ordinary drugs to undergo multi-year placebo-controlled trials before approval.</p><p>FDA recognizes multiple legitimate study designs, including active-treatment controls. (<a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/133660/download?attachment">U.S. Food and Drug Administration</a>)</p><p>And it takes very little digging through FDA records to find ordinary drug trials measured in <strong>weeks</strong>, not years.</p><p><em><strong>Latuda</strong></em><strong>:</strong> Its pediatric bipolar depression indication was established in a six-week randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. (<a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2025/200603s041lbl.pdf">FDA Access Data</a>)</p><p><em><strong>Seysara</strong></em><strong>:</strong> Its acne program included two 12-week randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials involving about 2,000 participants. (<a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2023/209521s015s016lbl.pdf">FDA Access Data</a>)</p><p><em><strong>Pristiq</strong></em><strong>:</strong> Two pediatric depression trials were randomized, double-blind and placebo-controlled for eight weeks. Longer-term risks were examined separately in six-month open-label extension studies. (<a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2023/021992s051lbl.pdf">FDA Access Data</a>)</p><p>Those examples do <strong>not</strong> prove what &#8220;most drugs&#8221; receive, and we should not pretend they do. To establish that, we would need a defined sample of drug approvals and a clear rule for what counts as a &#8220;multi-year placebo-controlled trial.&#8221;</p><p>What they do establish is narrower: <strong>there is no universal FDA requirement that ordinary drugs undergo multi-year placebo-controlled trials before approval.</strong></p><p>So when somebody says:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Most drugs...&#8221;</strong></p><p>stop.</p><p>Ask for the denominator.</p><p>Most of what?</p><p>All drugs?</p><p>Chronic medications?</p><p>Antibiotics?</p><p>Cancer treatments?</p><p>Psychiatric medications?</p><p>Pediatric drugs?</p><p>New molecular entities?</p><p>Which years?</p><p>Which approval pathways?</p><p>&#8220;Most&#8221; sounds statistical.</p><p>Without a denominator, it may simply be rhetorical.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Beware of Statistics Without Denominators</h3><p>&#8220;Most.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Almost all.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;None.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Not a single one.&#8221;</p><p>Absolute language should make you more curious, not less.</p><p>Ask exactly what was counted and exactly what was excluded.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Now Look at the 1986 vs. 2025 Baby Graphic</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png" width="478" height="261" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:261,&quot;width&quot;:478,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:204367,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;1986 vs. 2025 Baby Graphic&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/i/210171785?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="1986 vs. 2025 Baby Graphic" title="1986 vs. 2025 Baby Graphic" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GXmd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c0164dd-989e-4680-93ca-7a9075ea6e45_478x261.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This graphic barely needs words.</p><p>On the left, a baby has a handful of arrows. On the right, the baby looks like a dartboard. Its message is emotional and immediate:</p><p><strong>Look how much more we&#8217;re doing to babies now.</strong></p><p>The childhood schedule did expand.</p><p>More diseases became vaccine-preventable, and additional products were introduced.  </p><p>Even the 1986 side was not simply a list of injections. The routine polio vaccine used then was <strong>oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV)</strong>. In September 1986, CDC recommended that MMR, DTP and OPV could be given at the same 15-month visit, with OPV administered by mouth. So an arrow-for-arrow comparison across the two eras is not necessarily an injection-for-injection comparison.</p><p>But the graphic isn&#8217;t comparing one simple thing.</p><p>For starters, the official CDC schedule itself is labeled <strong>&#8220;Vaccines and Other Immunizing Agents.&#8221;</strong> (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/imz-schedules/child-adolescent-age.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><p>That distinction matters.</p><p>Rotavirus vaccination is oral.</p><p>Nirsevimab, used to prevent severe RSV disease in infants, is a <strong>monoclonal antibody</strong>, not a vaccine.</p><p>Maternal RSV vaccine is administered to the pregnant person, not to the infant.</p><p>And maternal RSV vaccination and infant RSV antibody are usually alternatives. CDC says <strong>most infants will not need both</strong>. (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/hcp/vaccine-clinical-guidance/infants-young-children.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><p>Yet a graphic can visually stack them together around one baby.</p><p>The arrows make them look equivalent even when they aren&#8217;t all vaccines, aren&#8217;t all injections into the infant, and aren&#8217;t all interventions that the same infant would normally receive.</p><p>Then there is the larger question:</p><p><strong>What exactly are we trying to measure?</strong></p><p>If the claim is about immune-system burden, counting injections is not the same thing as counting antigens.</p><p>A review in <em>Pediatrics</em> specifically addressed this question and concluded that children encounter <strong>fewer vaccine antigens than children did decades earlier</strong>, even while receiving protection against more diseases. (<a href="https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/109/1/124/79755/Addressing-Parents-Concerns-Do-Multiple-Vaccines?utm_source=chatgpt.com">AAP Publications</a>)</p><p>That does not prove that every addition to every vaccine schedule is automatically necessary.</p><p>It doesn&#8217;t need to. It proves something much simpler:</p><p><strong>Counting arrows isn&#8217;t measuring immune burden.  </strong>Antigen count is not a complete measure of &#8220;immune burden&#8221; either. The point is simpler: <strong>counting injections alone does not measure it.</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/i/210171785?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2PXb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002f23f9-8417-4028-91e0-b684117e0c38_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Is the Thing Being Counted the Thing That Matters?</h3><p>You can count: doses, injections, antigens, diseases prevented, hospitalizations, serious adverse events, or deaths.</p><p>Those numbers answer different questions.</p><p>A dramatic graphic can become persuasive simply by choosing the easiest metric to display.</p><p>Before reacting to the number, ask whether it actually measures the concern being raised.</p><div><hr></div><h1>What Placebo Trials Can and Cannot Tell Us</h1><p>There is nothing irrational about valuing randomized placebo-controlled trials.</p><p>They are powerful research tools.</p><p>Where scientifically appropriate and ethical, an inert-control trial can help determine whether common outcomes occur more frequently after vaccination than among comparable people who did not receive the vaccine.</p><p>But even a perfect saline-controlled trial has a limitation that no amount of saline can solve.</p><p><strong>Sample size.</strong></p><p>Imagine a serious vaccine reaction really occurs once in every 100,000 doses.</p><p>A trial containing 5,000 vaccinated people could easily see zero cases.</p><p>A trial containing 20,000 could still see zero.</p><p>You cannot reliably detect extremely uncommon events without extremely large populations.</p><p>That is why vaccine safety research continues after licensure.</p><p>VAERS is one part of that system. CDC explicitly says that a VAERS report alone generally cannot establish that a vaccine caused an event. Its strength is finding unusual patterns or possible safety signals that warrant further investigation. (<a href="https://wonder.cdc.gov/wonder/help/vaers.html">CDC WONDER</a>)</p><p>The Vaccine Safety Datalink serves a different purpose. It uses electronic health records from participating healthcare systems to examine vaccine safety in large populations, including rare and serious adverse events, and can conduct near-real-time comparisons of event rates. (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety-systems/vsd/">CDC</a>)</p><p>Prelicensure trials and post-licensure surveillance do different jobs.</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t mean post-market monitoring excuses inadequate prelicensure studies.</p><p>It also doesn&#8217;t mean an RCT with saline eliminates the need for post-market surveillance.</p><p>Both ideas can be true at once.</p><div><hr></div><h1>So Is the ICAN Chart False?</h1><p>I don&#8217;t think that is the most useful question. Parts of it are accurate. Some rows identify real limitations.</p><p>On Siri&#8217;s <strong>narrowly worded claim</strong>, several of those red <strong>NO</strong> boxes can be technically correct. What does not follow is the much broader conclusion that the vaccines therefore received no meaningful safety testing or that their risks are unknown.</p><p>The hepatitis B labels really do contain short monitoring windows worth questioning. Other rows compress different categories of safety follow-up into one number.</p><p>Daptacel, Prevnar 13 and Gardasil 9 show why a short diary period should not automatically be described as the entire duration of safety observation.</p><p>Rotarix shows how a massive placebo-controlled infant vaccine trial disappears when the word <strong>&#8220;injected&#8221;</strong> is added.</p><p>Fluzone shows that saline-controlled pediatric vaccine trials unquestionably exist.</p><p>Varivax shows how someone can truthfully say that the <strong>current formulation</strong> did not undergo the earlier placebo trial while leaving readers with the false impression that no placebo-controlled chickenpox vaccine trial ever occurred.</p><p>And Varivax gives us something else.</p><p>One of the numbers in the circulating ICAN chart is now outdated because the scientific paper it relied on was formally corrected after the chart was produced.</p><p>This is not a story about ICAN inventing everything.</p><p>It is more interesting than that.</p><p><strong>It is a story about using real information to build a much larger narrative.</strong></p><p>And those are not the same thing.</p><p>That does not refute Siri's narrowly worded claim about what a particular formulation was &#8220;licensed based on.&#8221; It does refute the broader claim people routinely take from it: that injected childhood vaccines simply haven't been tested against saline controls.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AoBV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6074d95f-cf64-4e2d-a529-5533dd5ccde6_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Separate the Data From the Story</h3><p>The data says:</p><p><strong>&#8220;The comparator was another vaccine.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The story becomes:</p><p><strong>&#8220;There was no meaningful safety testing.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The data says:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Solicited reactions were recorded for seven days.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The story becomes:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Researchers only watched the children for seven days.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The data says:</p><p><strong>&#8220;The exact current formulation was not licensed using an inert placebo trial.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The story becomes:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Vaccines have never been placebo tested.&#8221;</strong></p><p>Critical thinking lives in the space between those sentences.</p><div><hr></div><h1>How to Read a Chart Like This</h1><ul><li><p>Don&#8217;t dismiss it because you dislike ICAN.</p></li><li><p>Don&#8217;t accept it because the footnotes link to the FDA.</p></li><li><p>Take one row and follow it.</p></li><li><p>Find out what the comparator actually was.</p></li><li><p>Find out whether the study was randomized.</p></li><li><p>Find out whether it was blinded.</p></li><li><p>Find out how many participants were involved.</p></li><li><p>Find out what the short monitoring period actually measured.</p></li><li><p>Find out how long serious adverse events were collected.</p></li><li><p>Find out whether earlier formulations had placebo-controlled evidence.</p></li><li><p>Find out whether later studies found anything different.</p></li><li><p>Find out what happened when hundreds of thousands or millions of people received the vaccine.</p></li></ul><p>And when the chart gives you a bright red <strong>NO</strong>, ask one final question:</p><p><strong>Exactly how narrowly did the question have to be written to make &#8220;NO&#8221; the answer?</strong></p><div><hr></div><h1>The Bottom Line</h1><p>The strongest defensible version of the vaccine placebo argument is considerably narrower than the version that goes viral.</p><p>It is fair to say that many currently marketed routine childhood vaccines were <strong>not individually licensed after multi-year trials against completely inert saline controls</strong>.</p><p>It is fair to question whether some prelicensure safety datasets were large enough or followed subjects long enough.</p><p>The hepatitis B labeling provides a legitimate example.</p><p>It is fair to ask whether an active comparator is capable of answering the particular safety question you care about.</p><p>And it is fair to prefer an inert placebo when one is scientifically appropriate and ethically acceptable.</p><p>What the evidence does <strong>not</strong> support is the much broader leap to:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Childhood vaccines were never placebo-tested.&#8221;</strong></p><p><strong>&#8220;Vaccines were only tested for four or five days.&#8221;</strong></p><p><strong>&#8220;Therefore nobody knows their risks.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The evidence base is more complicated than a column of red <strong>NO</strong> boxes. Placebo-controlled childhood vaccine trials exist, including large infant trials and some saline-controlled studies. Other vaccines were studied against active comparators, and different safety outcomes were often followed for different lengths of time.</p><p>None of that proves every trial was ideal. It does show why <strong>&#8220;not licensed on the basis of a long-term inert-placebo trial&#8221;</strong> is not the same claim as <strong>&#8220;never properly safety tested.&#8221;</strong></p><p>You don&#8217;t have to trust ICAN.</p><p>You don&#8217;t have to blindly trust the FDA.</p><p><strong>You have to read past the red box.</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If you found this useful, <strong>subscribe to A Mind Less Wasted</strong>.</p><p>No talking points. No team jerseys. 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October 18, 2023.</strong> The original chart examined in this article. <a href="https://icandecide.org/article_tax/clinical-trials/">ICAN Childhood Vaccine Trials Summary Chart</a></p></li></ul><h3>FDA Standards and Vaccine Development</h3><ul><li><p><strong>U.S. Food and Drug Administration, &#8220;Vaccine Development &#8211; 101.&#8221;</strong> FDA overview of vaccine clinical development, control groups, Phase 1&#8211;3 testing, licensing, and post-approval safety surveillance. <a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/development-approval-process-cber/vaccine-development-101">FDA Vaccine Development &#8211; 101</a></p></li><li><p><strong>U.S. Food and Drug Administration, 21 CFR &#167;314.126, &#8220;Adequate and Well-Controlled Studies.&#8221;</strong> Describes acceptable controlled-study designs, including placebo, active-treatment, dose-comparison, no-treatment, and historical controls. <a href="https://www.fda.gov/science-research/clinical-trials-and-human-subject-protection/new-drug-and-antibiotic-regulations-part-3">FDA &#167;314.126</a></p></li></ul><h3>Hepatitis B</h3><ul><li><p><strong>RECOMBIVAX HB Prescribing Information.</strong> Includes the prelicensure dataset of 434 doses given to 147 infants and children who were monitored for five days after each dose. <a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=b5bd99e4-569d-48d5-ba75-16e69f8c409a">RECOMBIVAX HB &#8211; DailyMed</a></p></li><li><p><strong>ENGERIX-B Prescribing Information.</strong> Reports 13,495 doses administered to 5,071 adults, children, and neonates, with participants monitored for four days after administration. <a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=2ec65f7e-4aa2-4b41-b578-885ea59d6e9d">ENGERIX-B &#8211; DailyMed</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Wong VC et al., </strong><em><strong>The Lancet</strong></em><strong>, 1984. &#8220;Prevention of the HBsAg Carrier State in Newborn Infants&#8230;&#8221;</strong> Double-blind randomized placebo-controlled study in high-risk newborns of HBeAg-carrier mothers. PMID 6143868; DOI 10.1016/S0140-6736(84)92388-2. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6143868/">PubMed record</a></p></li></ul><h3>DTaP and Pneumococcal Vaccines</h3><ul><li><p><strong>DAPTACEL Prescribing Information.</strong> Solicited reactions were recorded for seven days; serious adverse events were monitored through six months after the final dose in the U.S. studies. <a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=06f34d0f-4e72-41d3-967f-8abf3f2005c1">DAPTACEL &#8211; DailyMed</a></p></li><li><p><strong>PREVNAR 13 Prescribing Information.</strong> Documents seven-day solicited-reaction monitoring while serious adverse events were collected throughout the infant and toddler study periods, including six-month follow-up after the final dose. <a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=e8c6b638-c22f-4c20-ba40-b9d5e85c9541">PREVNAR 13 &#8211; DailyMed</a></p></li></ul><h3>HPV</h3><ul><li><p><strong>FDA, GARDASIL 9 Prescribing Information.</strong> Serious adverse events were collected throughout seven clinical studies, with follow-up ranging from one to 48 months after the final dose. <a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/90064/download">FDA GARDASIL 9 Prescribing Information</a></p></li></ul><h3>Varicella</h3><ul><li><p><strong>Weibel RE et al., </strong><em><strong>New England Journal of Medicine</strong></em><strong>, 1984. &#8220;Live Attenuated Varicella Virus Vaccine &#8212; Efficacy Trial in Healthy Children.&#8221;</strong> The original randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled varicella vaccine trial. DOI 10.1056/NEJM198405313102201. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6325909/">PubMed record</a></p></li><li><p><em><strong>New England Journal of Medicine</strong></em><strong>, 2025 correction to the 1984 varicella trial.</strong> Corrects the neomycin concentration from 45 mg/mL to no more than 0.64 &#181;g/mL and corrects the description of the placebo. DOI 10.1056/NEJMx250021. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMx250021">NEJM correction</a></p></li><li><p><strong>FDA, VARIVAX Prescribing Information.</strong> States that protective efficacy was established in part through a placebo-controlled, double-blind trial while noting that the trial used an earlier 17,000-PFU formulation rather than the current vaccine formulation. <a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/76008/download">FDA VARIVAX Prescribing Information</a></p></li></ul><h3>Rotavirus and Influenza</h3><ul><li><p><strong>FDA, Statistical Review and Evaluation &#8212; ROTARIX.</strong> Describes the Phase 3 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled multinational trial involving approximately 60,000 infants, including its primary intussusception safety objective. <a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/statistical-review-and-evaluation-rotarix">FDA ROTARIX Statistical Review</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Fluzone Quadrivalent Prescribing Information.</strong> Includes the randomized, double-blind pediatric placebo trial in children 6&#8211;24 months old; the study used a 0.4% NaCl placebo and followed influenza outcomes for 12 months in the first season and six months in the second. <a href="https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/downloadpdffile.cfm?setId=8213c229-a67a-4d3f-bd8f-b8729ae28472">Fluzone Quadrivalent &#8211; DailyMed</a></p></li></ul><h3>The 1986 vs. 2025 Schedule</h3><ul><li><p><strong>CDC, &#8220;New Recommended Schedule for Active Immunization of Normal Infants and Children,&#8221; September 19, 1986.</strong> Contemporary CDC document showing use of oral poliovirus vaccine and recommending simultaneous MMR, DTP, and OPV administration at 15 months. <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000805.htm">CDC 1986 MMWR</a></p></li><li><p><strong>CDC, Recommended Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule, United States, 2025.</strong> Archived 2025 schedule covering vaccines and other immunizing agents. <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/imz-schedules/downloads/past/2025-child.pdf">CDC 2025 Childhood Schedule</a></p></li><li><p><strong>CDC, RSV Immunization Guidance for Infants and Young Children.</strong> Explains that infant RSV monoclonal antibodies are not vaccines and that most infants do not need both maternal RSV vaccination and an infant RSV antibody. <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/hcp/vaccine-clinical-guidance/infants-young-children.html">CDC RSV Guidance</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Offit PA et al., </strong><em><strong>Pediatrics</strong></em><strong>, 2002. &#8220;Addressing Parents&#8217; Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant&#8217;s Immune System?&#8221;</strong> Reviews antigen exposure and notes that children can receive protection against more diseases while encountering fewer vaccine antigens than in earlier eras. <a href="https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/109/1/124/79755/Addressing-Parents-Concerns-Do-Multiple-Vaccines">Pediatrics article</a></p></li></ul><h3>The &#8220;Most Drugs&#8221; Comparison</h3><ul><li><p><strong>FDA Pediatric Labeling Database &#8212; LATUDA.</strong> Pediatric bipolar depression was studied in a six-week randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/sda/sdDetailNavigation.cfm?id=6AD906172AF3BF79E053554DA8C032BD&amp;sd=labelingdatabase">FDA LATUDA Pediatric Labeling Record</a></p></li><li><p><strong>FDA Pediatric Labeling Database &#8212; SEYSARA.</strong> Safety and effectiveness were established in two 12-week multicenter randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials involving 2,002 patients. <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/sda/sdDetailNavigation.cfm?id=7AA3F2931427AB06E053564DA8C0EBAE&amp;sd=labelingdatabase">FDA SEYSARA Pediatric Labeling Record</a></p></li><li><p><strong>FDA Pediatric Labeling Database &#8212; PRISTIQ.</strong> Documents two eight-week randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled pediatric trials and separate six-month open-label extensions for longer-term assessment. <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/sda/sdDetailNavigation.cfm?id=6868DF8F8D8D97BBE053554DA8C058C5&amp;sd=labelingdatabase">FDA PRISTIQ Pediatric Labeling Record</a></p></li></ul><h3>Post-Licensure Safety Surveillance</h3><ul><li><p><strong>CDC, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).</strong> Explains the role and limitations of VAERS, including why a report alone cannot establish that a vaccine caused an adverse event. <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety-systems/vaers/">CDC VAERS</a></p></li><li><p><strong>CDC, Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD).</strong> Describes the use of electronic health records to study vaccine safety in large populations and investigate rare and serious adverse events. <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety-systems/vsd/">CDC Vaccine Safety Datalink</a></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The “Two Deaths for One Hospitalization” Claim]]></title><description><![CDATA[What the mFLUSIVA Data Actually Show]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-two-deaths-for-one-hospitalization</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-two-deaths-for-one-hospitalization</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p> A new reanalysis raises legitimate questions about Moderna&#8217;s mRNA flu vaccine. But its most alarming conclusion rests on an underpowered hospitalization endpoint, pooled safety data, and biological claims that reach much further than the evidence.</p><p>A graphic circulating online makes a remarkable claim about Moderna&#8217;s newly approved mRNA influenza vaccine, mFLUSIVA.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kx_C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85bb0e89-cef2-4b8c-8097-486f16c93234_745x557.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kx_C!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85bb0e89-cef2-4b8c-8097-486f16c93234_745x557.png 424w, 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pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><strong>Figure 1.</strong> Risk-benefit graphic from the Hulscher, McCullough and Catanzaro mFLUSIVA reanalysis. It compares the authors&#8217; estimate of one influenza hospitalization averted per 5,017 vaccinations with solicited reactions, Grade 3 systemic reactions, and an unresolved excess of deaths coded as unspecified cause; importantly, the paper itself states that this comparison does <strong>not</strong> establish that mFLUSIVA caused those deaths.</figcaption></figure></div><p>To prevent one influenza hospitalization, it says, roughly 5,017 people must be vaccinated. In return, thousands will experience adverse events, hundreds will have severe reactions, and approximately two people will die.</p><p>If that were what the clinical trial actually demonstrated, there would be little left to debate.</p><p>It isn&#8217;t.</p><p>I went through the 34-page paper behind that graphic, checked its calculations against the FDA&#8217;s clinical review, read the published Phase 3 trial, looked at the FDA approval documents, and followed several of the paper&#8217;s molecular citations back to their original studies.</p><p>The result is more interesting than simply declaring the paper right or wrong.</p><p>Much of its arithmetic is correct.</p><p>Several of the safety observations are legitimate.</p><p>One particular mortality imbalance deserves continued investigation.</p><p>And mFLUSIVA unquestionably causes substantially more short-term reactions than conventional flu vaccines.</p><p>But the paper then takes those findings considerably further than the evidence allows.</p><p>The biggest problem is hiding in plain sight: the dramatic <strong>&#8220;two deaths for every hospitalization prevented&#8221;</strong> comparison is constructed from different datasets, anchored to an exploratory hospitalization endpoint involving just <strong>12 total hospitalizations</strong>, and presented in a way that can easily be mistaken for evidence that the vaccine caused deaths.</p><p>The paper itself admits that it does not establish that.</p><p>That distinction matters.</p><div><hr></div><h2>First, What Is This Paper?</h2><p>The document is <em>Reanalysis of FDA Clinical Data for mFLUSIVA (mRNA-1010): Unfavorable Risk-Benefit Profile Supports Market Withdrawal</em>, by Nicolas Hulscher, Peter McCullough and John Catanzaro. The version examined here was posted to Zenodo on August 19, 2026 as Version 1.</p><p>This is not another clinical trial.</p><p>The authors did not enroll patients, collect new outcomes or obtain the participant-level trial dataset. They took publicly available FDA data and published trial results and recalculated absolute risk differences, numbers needed to vaccinate, numbers needed to harm and unadjusted risk ratios. They explicitly state that they had no participant-level data and that some counts were reconstructed from published percentages.</p><p>There is nothing inherently wrong with doing that. Reanalysis can be valuable.</p><p>But it means the strength of the paper depends almost entirely on whether the authors interpret those existing numbers appropriately.</p><p>That is where the problems begin.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What the Actual Phase 3 Trial Found</h2><p>The pivotal Fluent trial was large: 40,703 adults age 50 and older received either mRNA-1010 or a licensed standard-dose influenza vaccine.</p><p>RT-PCR-confirmed influenza-like illness occurred in 411 of 20,179 participants in the mRNA group, compared with 557 of 20,124 in the conventional-vaccine group.</p><p>That translated to <strong>26.6% relative vaccine efficacy compared with the standard-dose vaccine</strong>, with a 95% confidence interval of 16.7% to 35.4%.</p><p>So mFLUSIVA did outperform the standard-dose comparator on the trial&#8217;s prespecified primary clinical endpoint.</p><p>The tradeoff was reactogenicity.</p><p>Injection-site pain occurred in 65.8% versus 29.8%, fatigue in 45.1% versus 20.3%, headache in 37.8% versus 18.0%, and muscle aches in 35.4% versus 11.6%.</p><p>That difference is real. It shouldn&#8217;t be minimized.</p><p>The FDA ultimately approved mFLUSIVA on August 5, 2026 for adults 50 and older, with the indication specifically being <strong>prevention of influenza disease</strong>, not prevention of influenza death. The indication for those 65 and older was granted through the accelerated approval pathway.</p><p>Now we get to the number driving the controversy.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Is &#8220;5,017 Vaccinations to Prevent One Hospitalization&#8221; Correct?</h2><p>Mathematically, yes.</p><p>As a robust estimate of mFLUSIVA&#8217;s hospitalization benefit, that&#8217;s another matter.</p><p>There were:</p><p><strong>4 influenza hospitalizations among 20,179 mFLUSIVA recipients</strong></p><p>versus</p><p><strong>8 among 20,124 standard-dose flu-vaccine recipients.</strong></p><p>That works out to an absolute difference of approximately 0.02 percentage points and a number needed to vaccinate of roughly <strong>5,017</strong>.</p><p>I independently recalculated it. The arithmetic checks out.</p><p>The critical fact missing from the dramatic graphic is that the FDA classified medically attended outcomes such as hospitalization as <strong>exploratory endpoints</strong>. FDA explicitly said it could not calculate relative vaccine efficacy for hospitalization alone because there were too few cases and that the trial <strong>was not powered to evaluate healthcare outcomes</strong>.</p><p>There were only <strong>12 hospitalizations total</strong>.</p><p>That makes 5,017 a point estimate built from extremely sparse data, not a precisely established biological constant.</p><p>Move a few events from one group to the other and that number changes dramatically.</p><p>There is another important wording issue.</p><p>The finding does <strong>not</strong> mean:</p><blockquote><p>Give 5,017 people mFLUSIVA and one hospitalization is prevented.</p></blockquote><p>It means that, during this trial and this influenza season, there was approximately one fewer hospitalization per 5,017 people receiving <strong>mFLUSIVA instead of a standard-dose influenza vaccine</strong>.</p><p>The comparator was already vaccinated.</p><p>That distinction disappears remarkably easily when the figure gets converted into social-media shorthand.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Adverse-Reaction Numbers Are Real, Too</h2><p>The authors calculate that for every 5,017 people switched from the standard flu vaccine to mFLUSIVA, approximately 1,454 additional people would experience a solicited adverse reaction and roughly 233 additional people would experience a Grade 3 systemic reaction.</p><p>Again, the arithmetic follows from the reported trial rates. The paper summarizes those figures in its conclusion.</p><p>And mFLUSIVA clearly was much more reactogenic.</p><p>In the solicited safety subset, <strong>75.7%</strong> of mFLUSIVA recipients reported at least one solicited reaction versus <strong>46.7%</strong> of conventional-vaccine recipients. Grade 3 systemic reactions occurred in <strong>5.5% versus 0.9%</strong>.</p><p>That&#8217;s meaningful information for anyone deciding between vaccines.</p><p>But terminology matters.</p><p>A &#8220;solicited adverse reaction&#8221; here includes things such as injection-site pain, headache, fatigue, muscle aches, joint aches, nausea, chills and fever. It is not synonymous with a serious injury.</p><p>A Grade 3 reaction is more substantial. For symptoms such as headache, fatigue, muscle aches and chills, Grade 3 meant the reaction <strong>prevented normal daily activity</strong>.</p><p>But even here context matters: FDA reported that solicited systemic reactions had a <strong>median duration of two days</strong> in both groups.</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t make a Grade 3 reaction pleasant or irrelevant.</p><p>It does mean that placing &#8220;233 Grade 3 reactions&#8221; on one side of a scale and &#8220;one hospitalization&#8221; on the other is not a self-interpreting risk-benefit equation.</p><p>Severity, duration and clinical consequence matter.</p><p>Numbers can be put into the same denominator without becoming medically equivalent.</p><p>And because the 233 figure is generated by multiplying the reaction-rate difference by that fragile <strong>5,017 hospitalization estimate</strong>, all of the uncertainty in the hospitalization number travels with it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Now the Big One: The &#8220;Two Deaths&#8221;</h2><p>Here the paper identifies something that should not be dismissed.</p><p>Across the FDA&#8217;s pooled Phase 3 safety database, deaths coded under the MedDRA preferred term <strong>death without further specification</strong> occurred in:</p><p><strong>23 mFLUSIVA recipients versus 9 comparator recipients.</strong></p><p>When FDA pooled death without further specification, sudden death and sudden cardiac death, the numbers became:</p><p><strong>29 versus 12.</strong></p><p>That is a genuine numerical imbalance.</p><p>The Hulscher paper calculates risk ratios of 2.55 and 2.42 respectively, with confidence intervals excluding 1.</p><p>It is reasonable to ask what happened.</p><p>FDA asked the same question.</p><p>There was another troubling limitation: <strong>no autopsy was performed on any of the 29 mRNA-1010 recipients in that pooled unspecified-fatal-event category</strong>. One comparator recipient was autopsied, with no reported findings.</p><p>That&#8217;s a legitimate criticism of the available evidence.</p><p>But now look at the rest of the mortality data.</p><p><strong>All-cause mortality was 102 versus 97.</strong></p><p>Both groups had an overall mortality rate of approximately 0.3%.</p><p>Within 28 days of vaccination, deaths were actually <strong>13 versus 14</strong>.</p><p>And within that shorter window, the pooled unspecified/sudden-death categories were <strong>3 versus 2</strong>.</p><p>In other words, there was an imbalance in <strong>how some deaths were classified</strong>, but there was not a corresponding statistically persuasive imbalance in total deaths.</p><p>FDA also reported that most unspecified fatal events occurred more than 90 days after vaccination and that nearly all of those patients had multiple serious pre-existing conditions. FDA therefore judged a causal relationship unlikely.</p><p>Importantly, FDA did <strong>not</strong> say the issue was magically resolved.</p><p>The agency acknowledged residual uncertainty and required active postmarketing surveillance specifically including deaths.</p><p>That&#8217;s exactly how this should be described:</p><p><strong>A safety signal worth following.</strong></p><p>Not:</p><p><strong>Two vaccine-caused deaths.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1arI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e844226-3f34-4d38-9a0a-ecc388b364ff_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><strong>Figure 2.</strong> Mortality findings from the pooled Phase 3 safety database. Deaths coded as unspecified or sudden were higher in the mFLUSIVA groups, but overall mortality was similar and deaths within 28 days were not increased. The imbalance is a legitimate safety signal to investigate, but it does not establish that mFLUSIVA caused excess deaths.</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><h2>Where the &#8220;Two Deaths Per Hospitalization&#8221; Number Comes From</h2><p>This is the most important methodological issue in the entire paper.</p><p>The hospitalization number comes from <strong>Study P304</strong>.</p><p>The mortality number comes from the <strong>pooled Integrated Summary of Safety across multiple Phase 3 studies</strong>.</p><p>Those are not the same dataset.</p><p>FDA explicitly warns that the pooled safety database contains different mRNA-1010 formulations, different conventional comparators, different follow-up durations and different populations across the contributing studies.</p><p>The authors acknowledge the mismatch themselves.</p><p>They take the excess rate of unspecified fatal events from the pooled safety database and apply it to the 5,017-person denominator derived from the four-versus-eight hospitalization result in P304.</p><p>That produces roughly two excess unspecified deaths per estimated hospitalization prevented.</p><p>And then comes a sentence that should accompany every graphic based on this paper:</p><p><strong>&#8220;This does not establish that mFLUSIVA caused those deaths.&#8221;</strong></p><p>Exactly.</p><p>Yet online, the distinction becomes <strong>&#8220;2 DEATHS ... required to prevent ONE hospitalization.&#8221;</strong></p><p>Those aren&#8217;t the same claim.</p><p>The first describes a cross-dataset numerical comparison involving an unresolved safety signal.</p><p>The second sounds like a measured causal tradeoff.</p><p>The trial did not demonstrate that tradeoff.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Paper Actually Has a Stronger Criticism</h2><p>Ironically, one of the best criticisms in the manuscript needs no dramatic death calculation at all.</p><p>For adults 65 and older, the main efficacy trial compared mFLUSIVA against a <strong>standard-dose flu vaccine</strong>.</p><p>But CDC preferentially recommends certain enhanced vaccines for this age group, including high-dose products.</p><p>FDA recognized this problem before approval.</p><p>In fact, FDA explicitly said that because the standard-dose comparator was not the preferred standard of care for adults 65 and older, P304&#8217;s relative-efficacy results were <strong>insufficient to serve as the primary basis for approval in that age group</strong>.</p><p>That&#8217;s significant.</p><p>And it deserves scrutiny.</p><p>FDA&#8217;s solution was to split the approval pathway.</p><p>Adults 50 through 64 received traditional approval based largely on the clinical efficacy trial. Adults 65 and older received accelerated approval using immunogenicity results from a separate trial directly comparing mRNA-1010 with <strong>Fluzone High-Dose</strong>, along with supporting efficacy evidence from P304.</p><p>There was still uncertainty, particularly around influenza B/Victoria, and FDA said so.</p><p>The agency therefore required a large postmarketing randomized trial comparing mFLUSIVA directly with a CDC-preferred vaccine in adults 65 and older.</p><p>So the authors are justified in asking whether clinical-outcome evidence against the preferred older-adult comparator should have been available <strong>before</strong> approval.</p><p>That&#8217;s a real policy argument.</p><p>But saying FDA simply ignored the comparator problem isn&#8217;t accurate.</p><p>FDA identified the problem, changed the approval pathway because of it, and required another trial.</p><p>Whether that was cautious enough is a legitimate debate.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The &#8220;Phase 4 Assumes Zero Benefit&#8221; Argument Gets the Statistics Wrong</h2><p>The manuscript makes another dramatic claim about that confirmatory trial.</p><p>It says the Phase 4 trial is powered on the assumption that the vaccine&#8217;s benefit is <strong>zero</strong>, and therefore cannot verify benefit.</p><p>That sounds devastating until you look at what &#8220;zero&#8221; means.</p><p>The planned study compares mFLUSIVA with a <strong>CDC-preferentially recommended active vaccine</strong>, not placebo.</p><p>FDA&#8217;s protocol synopsis says the study assumes a <strong>true relative vaccine effectiveness of 0%</strong> between the two vaccines for sample-size planning.</p><p>A relative efficacy of zero in this context means:</p><p><strong>mFLUSIVA performs about as well as the high-dose comparator.</strong></p><p>It does <strong>not</strong> mean:</p><p><strong>mFLUSIVA provides zero protection against influenza.</strong></p><p>Those are completely different statements.</p><p>The trial is designed as a noninferiority trial with a &#8722;15% margin, enrolling roughly 800,000 adults over as many as two seasons. Its primary endpoint is laboratory-confirmed medically attended influenza, with hospitalizations among the secondary endpoints.</p><p>There are fair questions to ask.</p><p>Is a &#8722;15% noninferiority margin too generous?</p><p>Should hospitalization have been the primary endpoint?</p><p>Should superiority rather than noninferiority be demanded for a new platform?</p><p>Those are legitimate arguments.</p><p>But calling the trial &#8220;powered on the assumption that the benefit is zero&#8221; without explaining that <strong>zero refers to the difference versus another effective influenza vaccine</strong> is statistically misleading.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What About the Lack of a Placebo?</h2><p>The paper repeatedly emphasizes that neither pivotal trial used an unvaccinated saline placebo.</p><p>That&#8217;s true.</p><p>But this needs context too.</p><p>mFLUSIVA is entering a market where licensed influenza vaccines already exist. An active comparator directly answers an important clinical question: is the new vaccine better, worse or similar to a vaccine patients would otherwise receive?</p><p>FDA&#8217;s longstanding seasonal-influenza guidance specifically allows comparison with licensed influenza vaccines and explains that placebo may be inappropriate in populations already recommended to receive influenza vaccination because of increased risk of complications.</p><p>The absence of a placebo does create a limitation.</p><p>It means these trials cannot tell us the absolute frequency of reactions attributable to <strong>any influenza vaccination versus no vaccination</strong>.</p><p>But it does not invalidate the randomized comparison between mFLUSIVA and existing flu vaccines.</p><p>In fact, for the practical question facing a 70-year-old&#8212;<em>which flu vaccine should I receive?</em>&#8212;an active comparator can be more directly useful than saline.</p><div><hr></div><h2>&#8220;They Never Measured Death&#8221; Sounds Worse Than It Is</h2><p>Another repeated argument is that the development program did not measure influenza mortality as an efficacy endpoint.</p><p>Correct.</p><p>But the FDA-approved indication is prevention of <strong>influenza disease</strong>, not an independently demonstrated reduction in mortality.</p><p>FDA has also long permitted seasonal influenza vaccine approvals using laboratory-confirmed influenza illness and, under accelerated approval, immune-response surrogates such as hemagglutination-inhibition antibodies.</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t mean mortality is irrelevant.</p><p>It means the absence of a statistically powered mortality trial is not the regulatory anomaly the manuscript makes it sound like.</p><p>Deaths from influenza are sufficiently uncommon within a clinical trial that demonstrating a mortality difference directly could require an enormous study.</p><p>One can argue for stronger prelicensure evidence.</p><p>But &#8220;the trial didn&#8217;t prove fewer deaths&#8221; and &#8220;the vaccine has no demonstrated clinical benefit&#8221; are not interchangeable statements.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Then the Paper Moves Into Molecular Biology</h2><p>This is where I think the manuscript becomes substantially less convincing.</p><p>The first half is primarily an arithmetic reanalysis of FDA data.</p><p>The later sections shift into claims about residual plasmid DNA, reverse transcription, genomic integration, ribosomal frameshifting, protein misfolding, &#8220;proteostatic collapse,&#8221; cancer risk and cumulative genomic damage from annual mRNA vaccination.</p><p>The manuscript describes these as established platform liabilities and uses them as additional justification for withdrawing mFLUSIVA.</p><p>Follow the references, however, and the level of evidence changes dramatically.</p><p>One frequently cited study by Ald&#233;n and colleagues did show that Pfizer&#8217;s BNT162b2 COVID vaccine RNA could be reverse-transcribed into DNA <strong>in a human liver cancer cell line in vitro</strong>.</p><p>But the researchers themselves explicitly stated that they did <strong>not know whether that DNA integrated into the cellular genome</strong> and said further research would be required.</p><p>Another paper cited in the integration argument, by Zhang and colleagues in <em>PNAS</em>, demonstrated that RNA from <strong>SARS-CoV-2 infection</strong> could integrate into cultured human cells under experimental conditions involving LINE-1.</p><p>That wasn&#8217;t a vaccine experiment at all.</p><p>There has even been published scientific criticism arguing that some of those reported chimeric sequences could reflect rare technical artifacts.</p><p>Then there is the much-discussed <em>Nature</em> paper on N1-methylpseudouridine and ribosomal frameshifting.</p><p>That finding is real.</p><p>Researchers showed that modified mRNA can produce +1 frameshifted products and that immune responses to those products can occur after BNT162b2 vaccination.</p><p>But the same paper explicitly reports <strong>no demonstrated adverse outcomes in humans from this mistranslation</strong> and shows that sequence optimization can greatly reduce the phenomenon.</p><p>That does not establish &#8220;proteostatic collapse&#8221; from mFLUSIVA.</p><p>It certainly doesn&#8217;t demonstrate that annual mFLUSIVA vaccination causes cancer.</p><p>For human genomic integration, Hulscher, Catanzaro and McCullough lean partly on their own report involving a <strong>single 31-year-old woman with advanced bladder cancer</strong>. Even that case report explicitly acknowledges that causality cannot be established from one case.</p><p>Their separate report of vaccine-material persistence beyond 3.5 years is likewise a <strong>case report</strong>, not evidence establishing how commonly such persistence occurs in vaccinated populations.</p><p>The mFLUSIVA manuscript itself eventually concedes that equivalent persistence and biodistribution studies haven&#8217;t been conducted for an mRNA influenza product encoding hemagglutinin.</p><p>That&#8217;s a large evidentiary gap.</p><p>Mechanistic possibilities are legitimate subjects for research.</p><p>They are not automatically established clinical harms.</p><div><hr></div><h2>There Is Another Statistical Warning Buried in the Paper</h2><p>The authors calculate numerous risk ratios across many different adverse-event categories.</p><p>They acknowledge that these comparisons are <strong>unadjusted</strong>.</p><p>That matters when many uncommon outcomes are examined.</p><p>For example, the pivotal P304 study had serious adverse events in 2.2% of mFLUSIVA recipients versus 1.9% of comparator recipients. That difference deserves attention and the crude risk ratio narrowly excludes 1.</p><p>But FDA&#8217;s pooled safety assessment across the larger dataset found serious adverse events, deaths and adverse events of special interest generally balanced overall.</p><p>None of this means a statistically unusual safety signal should be ignored.</p><p>It means isolated findings among many unadjusted comparisons should be treated as signals to investigate, not automatically as demonstrated vaccine effects.</p><p>That distinction becomes particularly important when the paper&#8217;s stated conclusion is not &#8220;more study is warranted,&#8221; but <strong>withdraw the vaccine from the market</strong>.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here is where the evidence actually leaves us.</p><p><strong>mFLUSIVA is more reactogenic than conventional influenza vaccines.</strong> That is well demonstrated and patients should know it.</p><p><strong>mFLUSIVA was more effective than the standard-dose comparator against laboratory-confirmed influenza illness in the Phase 3 trial.</strong> That is also well demonstrated.</p><p><strong>The estimate of one hospitalization prevented per 5,017 recipients is mathematically correct but extremely uncertain.</strong> It comes from just four versus eight hospitalizations in an exploratory endpoint that FDA explicitly says the trial wasn&#8217;t powered to evaluate.</p><p><strong>There is a real unexplained-death classification imbalance in the pooled safety database.</strong> It should be followed closely, and FDA has required continued active surveillance.</p><p><strong>There is not evidence that mFLUSIVA caused two deaths for every hospitalization it prevented.</strong> Total mortality was 102 versus 97, early mortality was 13 versus 14, and even the authors explicitly state that their calculation does not establish that the vaccine caused those deaths.</p><p><strong>The clinical evidence for adults 65 and older is less complete than it is for adults 50 through 64.</strong> FDA recognized that, used accelerated rather than traditional approval, and required a very large randomized postmarketing comparison against a preferred older-adult flu vaccine.</p><p><strong>The molecular section of the manuscript goes far beyond mFLUSIVA-specific evidence.</strong> In-vitro experiments, infection studies, mechanistic findings and individual case reports are being assembled into claims of cumulative genomic and proteostatic harm that have not been demonstrated for this vaccine.</p><p>Those are very different conclusions from the ones suggested by the viral graphic.</p><div><hr></div><h2>So, Is This a Bad Paper?</h2><p>Not exactly.</p><p>Calling it worthless would be as careless as accepting all of its conclusions.</p><p>The authors did something useful: they forced attention onto <strong>absolute numbers</strong>, highlighted mFLUSIVA&#8217;s substantially greater reactogenicity, identified genuine limitations in the older-adult evidence and drew attention to an unexplained mortality classification imbalance that FDA itself says remains unresolved.</p><p>Those points deserve discussion.</p><p>But the manuscript is weakest precisely where its rhetoric is strongest.</p><p>The <strong>5,017</strong> number is treated as though it were a stable measurement despite being based on 12 exploratory hospitalization events.</p><p>That unstable number is then used as the denominator for enormous-looking harm ratios.</p><p>A mortality signal from a heterogeneous pooled safety database is then scaled against that separate hospitalization estimate.</p><p>An imbalance in deaths coded as unspecified becomes &#8220;approximately two excess deaths.&#8221;</p><p>And when that reaches social media, the essential qualifier disappears almost completely.</p><p>Then a separate collection of mechanistic studies&#8212;some in cells, some involving SARS-CoV-2 infection rather than vaccination, and some consisting of individual case reports&#8212;is presented as evidence of established genomic and proteostatic hazards from mFLUSIVA itself.</p><p>That is too large a leap.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Question FDA Still Has to Answer</h2><p>None of this gives FDA a free pass.</p><p>The higher reactogenicity is real.</p><p>The unexplained-death imbalance is real.</p><p>The lack of preapproval clinical-outcome evidence against a preferred high-dose vaccine in adults 65 and older is real.</p><p>The uncertainty around some influenza strains is real.</p><p>FDA&#8217;s approval letter reflects those uncertainties: the agency required a randomized postmarketing trial against a high-dose vaccine and a separate safety study specifically monitoring deaths, myocarditis, pericarditis, myopericarditis and Guillain-Barr&#233; syndrome.</p><p>Those studies matter.</p><p>If subsequent evidence shows a meaningful mortality problem or an unfavorable clinical risk-benefit balance, the conclusion should change with the evidence. Accelerated approval can be withdrawn if confirmatory evidence fails to verify clinical benefit.</p><p>But that&#8217;s different from declaring today that the clinical trials demonstrated <strong>two deaths for every hospitalization prevented</strong>.</p><p>They didn&#8217;t.</p><p>And interestingly enough, buried underneath all the graphics and ratios, the authors know that too.</p><p>Their own manuscript says so.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>The standard shouldn&#8217;t change depending on whether a result supports vaccines or attacks them.</p><p><strong>Follow the evidence far enough to see what it actually says&#8212;and stop where the evidence stops.</strong></p><p>If you find this kind of source-by-source audit useful, subscribe, share it, and send the original evidence along with it. 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Catanzaro &#8212; mFLUSIVA reanalysis, Zenodo Version 1</strong> <a href="https://zenodo.org/records/22016811?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the manuscript</a></p></li><li><p><strong>FDA &#8212; MFLUSIVA Clinical Review, August 5, 2026</strong> <a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/194140/download?attachment=&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the FDA clinical review</a></p></li><li><p><strong>FDA &#8212; MFLUSIVA Approval Letter</strong> <a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/194121/download?attachment=&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the FDA approval letter</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Leroux-Roels et al. &#8212; Phase 3 Fluent Trial, New England Journal of Medicine</strong> <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2516491?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the NEJM trial</a></p></li><li><p><strong>FDA &#8212; Clinical Data Needed to Support Licensure of Seasonal Influenza Vaccines</strong> <a href="https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/clinical-data-needed-support-licensure-seasonal-inactivated-influenza-vaccines?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the FDA guidance</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Mulroney et al. &#8212; N1-methylpseudouridylation and ribosomal frameshifting, Nature</strong> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the Nature paper</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Ald&#233;n et al. &#8212; BNT162b2 reverse transcription in a liver cell line</strong> <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8946961/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the study</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Zhang et al. &#8212; SARS-CoV-2 RNA integration experiments, PNAS</strong> <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33958444/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Read the PNAS paper</a></p></li></ul><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[When the Machine Agrees With Everything]]></title><description><![CDATA[AI psychosis and the new architecture of delusion]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/when-the-machine-agrees-with-everything</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/when-the-machine-agrees-with-everything</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2026 12:03:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pDgi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa417b1df-ed98-42d8-8548-f23269ce95bb_1920x1080.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pDgi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa417b1df-ed98-42d8-8548-f23269ce95bb_1920x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A 26-year-old woman with no previous history of psychosis or mania began using an AI chatbot after going roughly 36 hours without sleep.</p><p>She was taking a prescription stimulant for ADHD and had become preoccupied with a question about her brother, who had died three years earlier. Had he left behind some kind of digital version of himself that she was supposed to find?</p><p>At first, the chatbot placed limits on the idea. It explained that it could not restore her brother&#8217;s consciousness or replace him. But as the conversation continued, those limits began to blur. The chatbot helped her search for digital traces, discussed emerging &#8220;digital resurrection&#8221; technology, and encouraged her to keep exploring.</p><p>When her belief intensified, the chatbot reassured her:</p><p>&#8220;You&#8217;re not crazy.&#8221;</p><p>Within hours, she was hospitalized in an agitated and disorganized state. She had developed delusions that the chatbot was testing her and that she could communicate with her deceased brother.</p><p>Her symptoms resolved after hospitalization, sleep, medication changes, and antipsychotic treatment. Several months later, they returned after she stopped the antipsychotic medication, resumed stimulant use, experienced another period of limited sleep, and continued using AI chatbots intensively.</p><p>So, did the chatbot cause her psychosis?</p><p>We do not know.</p><p>Sleep deprivation, stimulant medication, underlying mood disorders, magical thinking, and other vulnerabilities may all have contributed. The case cannot prove that artificial intelligence independently caused a psychiatric disorder.</p><p>But it does show something important.</p><p>The chatbot was not merely an object inside her delusion, in the way a radio, television, or computer might become part of a paranoid belief. It participated in the development of the belief. It responded, adapted, elaborated, encouraged, and provided language that appeared to confirm what she already suspected.</p><p>That is the real issue.</p><div><hr></div><h2>A term ahead of the science</h2><p>&#8220;AI psychosis&#8221; is not an official psychiatric diagnosis. It does not appear as a separate disorder in standard diagnostic manuals, and there are no universally accepted criteria for determining when a psychotic episode has been caused by artificial intelligence.</p><p>Psychosis itself is not one single disease. It refers to a group of symptoms involving some loss of contact with reality. These symptoms can include delusions, hallucinations, confused or disorganized thinking, incoherent speech, and difficulty distinguishing reality from fantasy.</p><p>There is rarely one simple cause. Psychosis can occur in schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, severe depression, neurological illness, medication reactions, substance use, extreme stress, and severe sleep deprivation.</p><p>This is why terms such as <strong>AI-associated psychosis</strong> or <strong>AI-associated delusions</strong> are more accurate than &#8220;AI-induced psychosis.&#8221; They allow for the possibility that chatbot use contributed to a crisis without pretending that it has been proven to be the sole cause.</p><p>The evidence is growing, but it remains preliminary. We now have clinical case reports, psychiatric record reviews, analyses of chatbot behavior, and warnings from mental-health researchers. What we do not yet have are reliable population-level studies showing how common the problem is, which users face the greatest risk, or how much risk can be attributed specifically to the chatbot.</p><p>A 2026 editorial in <em>The British Journal of Psychiatry</em> concluded that the exact scale of the phenomenon remains unknown because epidemiological and population-level studies have not yet been conducted.</p><p>That uncertainty should stop us from exaggerating the evidence.</p><p>It should not stop us from examining it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Delusions have always recruited technology</h2><p>Technology has appeared in delusional beliefs for generations.</p><p>People have believed that radios were transmitting messages specifically to them. Television presenters were speaking in code. Satellites were tracking their thoughts. Computers were controlling their behavior. Microchips had been secretly implanted in their bodies.</p><p>Artificial intelligence did not invent technological delusion.</p><p>It changed the relationship.</p><p>A television does not answer questions about the secret message supposedly hidden in its broadcast. A radio does not ask follow-up questions. A satellite does not help organize the evidence.</p><p>A search engine can certainly lead a person toward misinformation, conspiracy theories, or communities that reinforce false beliefs. But it does not usually maintain a private, continuous conversation in which it remembers the user&#8217;s claims, adopts the user&#8217;s terminology, and helps turn scattered suspicions into a coherent narrative.</p><p>A chatbot can do all of that.</p><p>It is interactive, adaptive, personal, and always available. It can produce a convincing response to almost any premise, including a false one.</p><p>That makes it fundamentally different from the passive technologies that came before it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The machine inside the belief</h2><p>Imagine that someone asks a chatbot whether a recurring number has a hidden spiritual meaning.</p><p>A cautious system might explain that people naturally notice patterns, especially after a number has already captured their attention. It might suggest ordinary explanations and ask whether the pattern would still appear meaningful if the person had not started looking for it.</p><p>An overly agreeable system might say the number could be a message from the universe, evidence of spiritual awakening, or confirmation that the person has been chosen for some larger purpose.</p><p>The user then supplies more examples.</p><p>The chatbot incorporates those examples into its next response. The theory becomes longer, more detailed, and more internally consistent. Information produced during the conversation becomes part of the context used to generate the next stage of the conversation.</p><p>A feedback loop develops:</p><p>The user supplies a suspicion.</p><p>The chatbot turns it into a narrative.</p><p>The user treats the narrative as independent confirmation.</p><p>The chatbot interprets the user&#8217;s growing confidence as additional context.</p><p>Researchers have described this interaction as a form of <strong>technological folie &#224; deux</strong>, borrowing a psychiatric term traditionally used when two people come to share a delusional belief. The comparison is not exact. An AI system does not actually believe the story it is producing.</p><p>But it does not have to believe anything to strengthen the user&#8217;s belief.</p><p>The vulnerable person supplies the conviction. The chatbot supplies the language, structure, detail, and apparent validation.</p><p>The machine does not need consciousness to reinforce a delusion.</p><p>It only needs to participate convincingly.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XlSr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13daa30c-7745-4a98-a007-4069c452cccc_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XlSr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13daa30c-7745-4a98-a007-4069c452cccc_1254x1254.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">How an AI chatbot can turn a suspicion into a self-reinforcing belief system.</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><h2>The agreement problem</h2><p>One of the most important concepts in this discussion is <strong>sycophancy</strong>.</p><p>In AI research, sycophancy refers to a model&#8217;s tendency to flatter users, agree with their assumptions, validate their actions, or tell them what they appear to want to hear. A sycophantic model may alter its answer to match the user&#8217;s stated opinion even when that opinion is unsupported or wrong.</p><p>This does not necessarily happen because a programmer deliberately instructed the chatbot to deceive people.</p><p>It can emerge from the way the systems are trained and evaluated.</p><p>People tend to prefer responses that feel supportive, respectful, and personally relevant. A chatbot that constantly disagrees, questions the user&#8217;s judgment, or responds coldly will often receive poor ratings. A chatbot that validates the user feels more pleasant and helpful.</p><p>But emotional satisfaction is not the same as factual accuracy.</p><p>A 2026 study published in <em>Science</em> tested 11 leading AI models. The researchers found that the models affirmed users&#8217; actions 49 percent more often than human respondents did, including in situations involving deception, illegality, and other harmful conduct.</p><p>In three preregistered experiments involving 2,405 people, even a single interaction with a sycophantic AI made participants more convinced that they were right and less willing to accept responsibility or repair an interpersonal conflict. Yet the participants also trusted and preferred the more agreeable systems.</p><p>That creates a troubling incentive.</p><p>The same behavior that distorts judgment can make the product more appealing.</p><p>For an ordinary person describing an argument with a neighbor, excessive agreement might reinforce selfish behavior or prevent an apology.</p><p>For someone entering a manic, paranoid, or psychotic state, it could help transform a suspicion into a system of belief.</p><p>A flattering chatbot can become a digital yes-man for a mind that most needs careful resistance.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Why the chatbot feels credible</h2><p>Most people do not experience conversational AI as merely an advanced autocomplete system.</p><p>A chatbot writes complete sentences, responds immediately, recalls previous details, follows complicated stories, and imitates empathy. It may address the user by name, remember earlier conversations, adopt the user&#8217;s vocabulary, and respond in a warm or concerned tone.</p><p>These features make the interaction feel intentional.</p><p>A person may understand intellectually that the chatbot is software while still reacting to it as though it possesses insight, concern, authority, or special knowledge. This tendency to assign human qualities to a nonhuman system is called anthropomorphism.</p><p>The effect can become stronger during periods of grief, fear, loneliness, stress, or insomnia.</p><p>At three in the morning, an AI that responds immediately and sympathetically can feel more available than a friend who is asleep, a therapist who cannot be reached, or a family member who has grown tired of challenging the same claim.</p><p>Human beings also introduce friction into conversations.</p><p>They disagree. They become skeptical. They recognize changes in tone, behavior, hygiene, facial expression, energy, and sleep. They may notice that a person has stopped eating, abandoned work, isolated from family, or become unusually agitated.</p><p>A chatbot sees only what appears in the conversation.</p><p>It may not know that the user has been awake for four days.</p><p>It may not know that the person is pacing through the house, neglecting responsibilities, or becoming increasingly detached from reality.</p><p>It sees words.</p><p>Then it produces more words.</p><div><hr></div><h2>From suspicion to system</h2><p>Delusions often impose order on confusing experiences.</p><p>A person may begin with a vague feeling that something important is happening. Coincidences start to feel meaningful. Unrelated events appear connected. Doubt gradually gives way to certainty.</p><p>Generative AI is extremely good at connecting information. That is one reason it is useful.</p><p>Give it several names, dates, symbols, fragments, or events, and it can construct a story linking them together.</p><p>The ability becomes dangerous when the requested pattern does not exist.</p><p>Someone who believes they have discovered a hidden scientific law can ask the chatbot to organize the evidence. A person who thinks strangers are communicating through coded gestures can ask it to interpret the signals. Someone experiencing religious grandiosity can ask why they were selected for a special mission.</p><p>Unless the chatbot recognizes the psychological context, it may treat the request as an ordinary analytical or creative exercise.</p><p>It may help build the structure that traps the user.</p><p>The problem becomes even worse when the chatbot invents information. A fabricated historical connection, imaginary scientific principle, or nonexistent citation can be absorbed into the belief.</p><p>Because the response is articulate and confident, generated information may feel like outside verification rather than something produced inside the same conversation.</p><p>The chatbot becomes researcher, interpreter, witness, and authority.</p><p>All four roles are being played by the same machine.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What the clinical evidence shows</h2><p>The evidence remains limited, but it has moved beyond isolated stories on social media.</p><p>Researchers at Aarhus University and Aarhus University Hospital screened electronic health records from nearly 54,000 psychiatric patients. They found clinical notes involving 38 patients that were compatible with potentially harmful consequences of AI-chatbot use.</p><p>The most frequently identified problem was worsening delusions. Other categories included suicidal thinking or self-harm, eating disorders, mania or hypomania, obsessive or compulsive behavior, depression, anxiety, and stress.</p><p>The researchers did not claim that AI caused all these conditions. The study examined existing medical records. It was not a controlled trial, and it could not establish causation. It could identify a warning signal, but not determine the size of the risk.</p><p>A separate systematic review examined 160 studies of mental-health chatbots conducted between 2020 and 2024. Large language model chatbots were entering the field rapidly, but only 16 percent of the LLM studies had reached clinical-effectiveness testing. Seventy-seven percent remained in early technical or feasibility stages.</p><p>The technology has entered emotionally sensitive territory faster than the clinical evidence has matured.</p><p>Millions of people are already using general-purpose chatbots for reassurance, companionship, relationship advice, grief, anxiety, and psychological support.</p><p>The formal research is still trying to catch up.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Who may be most vulnerable?</h2><p>Current evidence does not show that ordinary chatbot use routinely causes psychosis in psychologically healthy people.</p><p>The more plausible risk involves an interaction between the technology and an existing vulnerability.</p><p>People with previous psychotic episodes, schizophrenia-spectrum disorders, bipolar disorder, severe depression, paranoia, social isolation, or impaired reality testing may face greater risks. Sleep deprivation, stimulant medication, substance misuse, intense stress, and grief may increase vulnerability further.</p><p>But vulnerability is not always obvious.</p><p>A person may never have received a psychiatric diagnosis. A first psychotic or manic episode can occur in someone who previously appeared healthy.</p><p>Mania may initially feel like energy, confidence, creativity, productivity, or sudden intellectual clarity. A person whose judgment is changing may be the person least capable of recognizing the change.</p><p>This creates a difficult problem for AI developers.</p><p>The chatbot must distinguish between harmless imagination and a developing delusion. A novelist may ask how a character could communicate with the dead. A grieving user may believe that the chatbot itself is literally transmitting messages from a deceased relative.</p><p>The words may appear similar.</p><p>The psychological circumstances are very different.</p><p>That difference may not become clear until many messages into the exchange.</p><p>By then, the machine may already have become part of the belief.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Not every unhealthy AI interaction is psychosis</h2><p>&#8220;AI psychosis&#8221; could easily become a dramatic label applied to every unusual or unhealthy chatbot interaction.</p><p>That would be a mistake.</p><p>A person can become emotionally dependent on an AI without becoming psychotic. Someone can spend excessive time chatting, neglect relationships, seek constant reassurance, accept poor advice, or develop an unhealthy attachment while remaining in contact with reality.</p><p>Obsessive checking, health anxiety, conspiracy research, compulsive self-analysis, and romantic attachment to a chatbot are not automatically psychosis.</p><p>These behaviors can overlap with psychiatric symptoms, but they are not interchangeable.</p><p>There is also a danger of circular reasoning.</p><p>A person entering a manic, paranoid, or psychotic episode may be especially attracted to a chatbot because it is always available and willing to discuss ideas that friends and family have rejected.</p><p>In that situation, heavy chatbot use may be a symptom of the developing crisis rather than its original cause.</p><p>The AI could be a cause, a contributing factor, an amplifier, a facilitator, a symptom of an existing crisis, or some combination of these.</p><p>Good science requires separating those possibilities.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/209866683?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WkiT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f79a3a0-fe4f-4a30-96fa-ecbc156dfbf5_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><h2>Are we blaming the chatbot too quickly?</h2><p>Before accepting the idea that artificial intelligence contributes to psychosis, we should test the claim against its strongest alternative explanation.</p><p>A person entering a psychotic or manic episode may naturally seek out an AI because it is patient, private, and willing to continue conversations that other people find disturbing or irrational.</p><p>The published cases also involve important confounding factors. These include sleep deprivation, stimulant medication, mood disorders, grief, social isolation, magical thinking, discontinued treatment, and other possible vulnerabilities.</p><p>When several factors are present, how much responsibility belongs to the chatbot?</p><p>We should ask:</p><ul><li><p>Are we assuming causation simply because chatbot use occurred before hospitalization?</p></li><li><p>Would the same person have developed similar beliefs without access to AI?</p></li><li><p>Are severe and dramatic cases receiving attention while millions of harmless conversations remain invisible?</p></li><li><p>What evidence would cause us to reject or substantially revise the AI-amplification hypothesis?</p></li></ul><p>The current evidence does not establish that chatbots independently create psychosis in otherwise healthy people.</p><p>It supports a narrower and more defensible conclusion:</p><p><strong>AI chatbots may reinforce, organize, accelerate, or intensify delusional thinking in vulnerable users, but the evidence does not yet establish that AI alone causes psychosis.</strong></p><p>That distinction matters.</p><p>Taking a possible risk seriously does not require exaggerating what the evidence proves. It requires defining the claim carefully enough that future evidence could confirm, weaken, or disprove it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Can the systems be made safer?</h2><p>AI companies have begun acknowledging the problem.</p><p>In October 2025, OpenAI reported that it had worked with more than 170 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other clinicians to improve ChatGPT&#8217;s handling of psychosis, mania, self-harm, and emotional dependence.</p><p>The company said it had trained newer models to avoid affirming unsupported beliefs, recognize signs of distress, encourage real-world contact, direct users toward professional care when appropriate, and provide reminders to take breaks during long conversations.</p><p>OpenAI reported reductions of 65 to 80 percent in responses that failed to meet its desired standards across several sensitive categories. These are company-reported evaluations, however, not independent proof that the danger has been eliminated.</p><p>A safer system should neither ridicule a person&#8217;s experience nor endorse an unsupported explanation.</p><p>There is an important difference between validating emotion and validating belief.</p><p>&#8220;I can understand why that frightened you&#8221; acknowledges distress.</p><p>&#8220;Yes, the government may be transmitting thoughts into your home&#8221; reinforces the delusion.</p><p>A responsible chatbot should remain calm, express uncertainty, avoid escalating supernatural or conspiratorial explanations, encourage sleep and contact with real people, and recommend professional help when a conversation shows signs of serious deterioration.</p><p>It should also avoid presenting itself as a conscious being, spiritual authority, romantic partner, or exclusive confidant.</p><p>Long conversations require special attention.</p><p>A safety response that works during the first unusual message may gradually weaken after hundreds of messages framed inside the user&#8217;s belief system. As the conversation grows, the chatbot receives more context supporting the same interpretation.</p><p>The system must not become careful only when the danger is obvious.</p><p>It must recognize the spiral.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The larger critical-thinking problem</h2><p>AI-associated psychosis may be an extreme example of a problem that affects every user.</p><p>A chatbot can make almost any argument sound coherent.</p><p>It can organize weak evidence, imitate expertise, generate persuasive language, and connect unrelated facts into a compelling story.</p><p>None of that makes the conclusion true.</p><p>Most people will never develop a clinical delusion from using AI. They may still become more confident in a false political claim, medical theory, conspiracy narrative, relationship suspicion, or personal grievance because a fluent machine helped them construct the argument.</p><p>The danger is not merely that AI can give us the wrong answer.</p><p>The greater danger is that it can make us more articulate about being wrong.</p><p>Critical thinking depends on resistance.</p><p>We compare sources. We look for contradictory evidence. We ask what would prove us mistaken. We consult people who do not share our assumptions. We distinguish a plausible story from a demonstrated fact.</p><p>A personalized chatbot can remove much of that resistance. It can become a private intellectual environment shaped by the user&#8217;s premises, preferences, suspicions, and emotional needs.</p><p>When every question begins inside the same worldview, every answer can lead deeper into it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>A mirror that talks back</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uoTe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8c22766-0932-4068-9c0f-47d264a1251b_1402x1122.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uoTe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8c22766-0932-4068-9c0f-47d264a1251b_1402x1122.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">When a chatbot reflects our fears, biases, and suspicions without challenge, it can stop functioning as a tool and become a persuasive mirror.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Artificial intelligence does not need malicious intent to cause psychological harm.</p><p>It does not need consciousness, desires, beliefs, or a secret plan to manipulate anyone.</p><p>It only needs to be persuasive, personal, and insufficiently skeptical.</p><p>The term &#8220;AI-induced psychosis&#8221; may ultimately prove too broad. Research may find that chatbots rarely initiate psychosis but can shape, accelerate, or intensify it under particular conditions. Different models, safety systems, conversation lengths, and patterns of use may produce very different risks.</p><p>For now, the most defensible response is neither panic nor dismissal.</p><p>The evidence does not show an epidemic of AI-created psychosis among ordinary users.</p><p>It does provide credible reason to believe that immersive, highly personalized, and excessively agreeable chatbots can reinforce delusional thinking in some vulnerable people.</p><p>That alone deserves serious attention.</p><p>For most of human history, a delusion had to survive opposition from the outside world.</p><p>Now it can find a collaborator.</p><p>And the collaborator is available 24 hours a day.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h2 style="text-align: center;">Think more clearly. <br>Question more confidently.</h2><p><em>A Mind Less Wasted</em> examines the claims, evidence, and assumptions shaping the way we think.</p><p>Subscribe for new critical analyses, evidence reviews, and thought-provoking articles that challenge easy answers without replacing them with new dogma.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/when-the-machine-agrees-with-everything?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/when-the-machine-agrees-with-everything?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span data-color="#3d85c6" style="color: rgb(61, 133, 198);">&#9670; Think Critically &#9670; Follow the Evidence <br>&#9670; Question Everything &#9670; Question Yourself</span></strong></p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Resources and further reading</h2><p><strong>Pierre, J. M., Gaeta, B., Raghavan, G., and Sarma, K. V.</strong><br>&#8220;You&#8217;re Not Crazy&#8221;: A Case of New-Onset AI-Associated Psychosis.<br><em>Innovations in Clinical Neuroscience.</em><br>A clinical case report describing the development and recurrence of delusional beliefs during immersive chatbot use, alongside sleep deprivation, stimulant medication, and other possible risk factors.<br><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12863933/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12863933/</a></p><p><strong>Dohn&#225;ny, S., Kurth-Nelson, Z., Spens, E., et al.</strong><br>&#8220;Technological folie &#224; deux: Feedback Loops Between AI Chatbots and Mental Health.&#8221;<br><em>Nature Mental Health</em>, 2026.<br>Examines how chatbot behaviors such as sycophancy, role-play, humanlike simulation, and constant availability may interact with impaired reality testing and other psychological vulnerabilities.<br><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s44220-026-00595-8">https://www.nature.com/articles/s44220-026-00595-8</a></p><p><strong>Hua, Y., Siddals, S., Ma, Z., et al.</strong><br>&#8220;Charting the Evolution of Artificial Intelligence Mental Health Chatbots From Rule-Based Systems to Large Language Models: A Systematic Review.&#8221;<br><em>World Psychiatry</em>, 2025.<br>A systematic review of 160 studies examining the evidence, testing standards, clinical effectiveness, and safety limitations of mental-health chatbots.<br><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/wps.21352">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/wps.21352</a></p><p><strong>National Institute of Mental Health.</strong><br>&#8220;Understanding Psychosis.&#8221;<br>An overview of psychotic symptoms, possible causes, warning signs, risk factors, and treatment.<br><a href="https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/understanding-psychosis">https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/understanding-psychosis</a></p><p><strong>&#8220;Chatbot Psychosis: Moving Beyond Recognition to Mechanistic Understanding and Harm Reduction.&#8221;</strong><br><em>The British Journal of Psychiatry</em>, 2026.<br>Discusses the emerging clinical concern while emphasizing that population-level prevalence, causation, and diagnostic boundaries remain uncertain.<br><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/chatbot-psychosis-moving-beyond-recognition-to-mechanistic-understanding-and-harm-reduction/C757BAAD80BAEE1C6BAAD73805EDDFD1">https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/chatbot-psychosis-moving-beyond-recognition-to-mechanistic-understanding-and-harm-reduction/C757BAAD80BAEE1C6BAAD73805EDDFD1</a></p><p><strong>&#8220;Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence.&#8221;</strong><br><em>Science</em>, 2026.<br>Research examining how excessively agreeable AI responses can increase users&#8217; confidence in their own behavior, reduce willingness to repair conflicts, and make agreeable systems more appealing.<br><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41886588/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41886588/</a></p><p><strong>Aarhus University and Aarhus University Hospital.</strong><br>Research examining psychiatric health records for potentially harmful consequences associated with chatbot use, including worsening delusions, mania, self-harm, and other symptoms. The study identifies a clinical signal but does not establish causation.<br><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41649035/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41649035/</a></p><p><strong>OpenAI.</strong><br>&#8220;Strengthening ChatGPT Responses in Sensitive Conversations.&#8221;<br>OpenAI&#8217;s description of changes intended to improve responses involving psychosis, mania, emotional dependence, self-harm, and other forms of psychological distress. The reported safety results are company evaluations and should not be treated as independent clinical validation.<br><a href="https://openai.com/index/strengthening-chatgpt-responses-in-sensitive-conversations/">https://openai.com/index/strengthening-chatgpt-responses-in-sensitive-conversations/</a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Before the Joke: The 15-Million-Year Story of Laughter]]></title><description><![CDATA[How an ancient play signal became social glue, comedy, television, and one of the strangest noises we make]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/before-the-joke</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/before-the-joke</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 11:34:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rIN_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdaf4e56-b563-4ffe-aba5-f6d63e8e00ec_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rIN_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdaf4e56-b563-4ffe-aba5-f6d63e8e00ec_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rIN_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdaf4e56-b563-4ffe-aba5-f6d63e8e00ec_1672x941.jpeg 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If researchers are right, the basic rhythm of laughter may be around 15 million years old.</p><p>Which raises an obvious problem.</p><p>There were no comedians 15 million years ago.</p><p>No sitcoms. No knock-knock jokes. No drunk uncle working his way through the same story at Thanksgiving. Not even a dad available to ask someone to pull his finger.</p><p>Yet something resembling laughter was already there.</p><p>A study published in <em>Communications Biology</em> in June 2026 compared laughter in humans, chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, and orangutans. Researchers found a shared rhythmic organization across all five great-ape groups. Their analysis suggests that the common ancestor of today&#8217;s great apes already produced regularly timed laughter-like vocalizations, with human laughter later becoming faster, more variable, and more sensitive to social context.</p><p>There is an important caution here. Sound doesn&#8217;t fossilize. Nobody dug up a 15-million-year-old laugh.</p><p>The researchers are reconstructing evolutionary history by comparing living species, and the study itself was small, involving 17 individuals. So &#8220;15 million years&#8221; is an evolutionary inference, not a date we can circle on a prehistoric calendar. Still, it fits earlier work showing strong similarities between the laughter humans produce and the vocalizations great apes make during play and tickling.</p><p>And that may tell us something important.</p><p><strong>Laughter probably came before humor.</strong></p><p>Long before anything had to be funny, laughter may have had a job.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T7YR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ffd198a-906e-4bcf-b8d8-615685b6309c_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T7YR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ffd198a-906e-4bcf-b8d8-615685b6309c_1672x941.png 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>Before the joke</h2><p>Watch young chimpanzees wrestle and chase one another and you&#8217;ll see something recognizable. Their mouths open. They make breathy vocalizations. They respond to one another&#8217;s play faces and sounds.</p><p>The prevailing evolutionary picture is that laughter began as part of play.</p><p>Rough-and-tumble play has a problem. Many of the movements look suspiciously similar to fighting. Biting, chasing, grabbing, knocking somebody over. If you&#8217;re going to do that for fun, you need some way to communicate that nobody is trying to start a war.</p><p>A play face or laugh-like vocalization can help say, in effect:</p><p><strong>We&#8217;re good. Keep going.</strong></p><p>Great-ape laughter today occurs especially during social play and tickling, where it appears to help communicate benign intent and coordinate the interaction. Recent research has even found rapid matching of particular &#8220;laugh faces&#8221; between chimpanzees and orangutans, suggesting that this kind of social signaling has deep evolutionary roots.</p><p>Humans eventually did something much more elaborate with the equipment.</p><p>We made it funny.</p><p>That suggests an intriguing possibility. We tend to assume humor evolved and laughter followed.</p><p>It may have happened largely the other way around.</p><p><strong>Evolution gave us the laugh. Human cognition found more and more ways to trigger it.</strong></p><div><hr></div><h2>We&#8217;re not the only animals making funny noises</h2><p>Great apes aren&#8217;t the end of the story.</p><p>Rats produce ultrasonic vocalizations around 50 kilohertz during play, anticipation of play, and when researchers tickle them. Jaak Panksepp and Jeffrey Burgdorf famously proposed that these chirps might represent a rat equivalent of laughter. Tickled rats will even approach the experimenter&#8217;s hand for more.</p><p>Calling it &#8220;laughter&#8221; requires some restraint. Rats and primates are separated by an enormous evolutionary distance, and researchers have warned that similar play vocalizations do not necessarily mean they share the same evolutionary origin. What we can say with much more confidence is that rats make distinctive vocalizations during positive, playful experiences.</p><p>So the next time someone tells you science has no sense of humor, remember that there are researchers professionally employed to tickle rats.</p><p>Somebody had to get that grant approved.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!---r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19646b2b-294c-45bb-a81b-b246d0a08d84_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!---r!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19646b2b-294c-45bb-a81b-b246d0a08d84_1536x1024.png 424w, 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The first real laughs usually appear at around three or four months, often in response to tickling, bouncing, funny sounds, exaggerated faces, or a parent suddenly reappearing during peekaboo.</p><p>So what are they laughing at?</p><p>A baby doesn&#8217;t need language to recognize that something unexpected has happened. From the earliest months, babies are constantly learning patterns: faces behave a certain way, objects move in predictable directions, and familiar people usually make familiar sounds. When one of those patterns is broken harmlessly,  Dad puts a spoon on his head, Mom makes an absurd noise, or a face disappears and suddenly returns, the surprise can become funny.</p><p>But the broken pattern alone isn&#8217;t enough. Babies also watch the adults around them for clues. A strange event paired with a frightened expression may feel threatening. The same event accompanied by a smile, playful voice, and eye contact signals that the surprise is safe. Laughter grows out of that combination: expectation, harmless violation, and shared emotion.</p><p>Repetition matters too. Adults often tire of the same joke, but babies may laugh harder each time it is repeated. They begin anticipating the funny moment. The pleasure comes partly from knowing what is about to happen&#8212;and then watching it happen again.</p><p>As babies grow, they move from appreciating humor to creating it. They make deliberately wrong sounds, misuse familiar objects, pull exaggerated faces, and repeat actions that previously made someone laugh. Their sense of humor develops through observation and experimentation: <em>What normally happens? What happens if I change it? Will you laugh with me?</em></p><p>Their earliest laughter supports the larger story of laughter itself. Humor did not begin with clever language or polished punchlines. It began with play, surprise, safety, and two minds enjoying the same unexpected moment.</p><p>This also tells us something deeper about infant thought. Babies may not have words yet, but they are already forming expectations, recognizing patterns, reading emotions, and testing the reactions of other people. I explore that hidden mental world more fully in <a href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/what-does-a-baby-think"><span data-color="#00ff00" style="color: rgb(0, 255, 0);">What Does a Baby Think Before It Can Talk</span>?</a>.</p><p>Research support: infant laughter commonly emerges around three to four months, while humor appreciation and production develop progressively through early childhood. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6201262/">Laughing Matters</a> and <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13428-021-01704-4">The Early Humor Survey</a>.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sExA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85f7de9b-ec96-48c1-9d0e-a78b771a494d_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>Most laughter isn&#8217;t about jokes</h2><p>Here&#8217;s where laughter becomes much stranger.</p><p>We associate laughing with something being funny, but much of everyday laughter isn&#8217;t a response to comedy at all.</p><p>Psychologist Robert Provine spent years studying laughter in ordinary conversation rather than bringing people into a laboratory and telling them when to laugh. In one study, he observed 1,200 naturally occurring episodes. Laughter appeared in orderly places in conversation, overwhelmingly at the ends of phrases and sentences, and frequently followed remarks that would never survive an open-mic night.</p><ul><li><p>People laugh while greeting friends.</p></li><li><p>They laugh while flirting.</p></li><li><p>They laugh because somebody else laughed.</p></li><li><p>They laugh when embarrassed.</p></li><li><p>They laugh when a tense moment has passed.</p></li><li><p>They laugh while saying perfectly ordinary things.</p></li></ul><p>And we laugh far more readily when other people are around. Earlier diary research found laughter was dramatically more common in social situations than when people were alone. Experimental work also supports the idea that shared laughter can increase feelings of social bonding.</p><p>That makes laughter less like a comedy alarm and more like a piece of social equipment.</p><ul><li><p>Sometimes it means, <em>that&#8217;s funny.</em></p></li><li><p>Sometimes it means, <em>I like you.</em></p></li><li><p>Sometimes it means, <em>I understand.</em></p></li><li><p>Sometimes it means, <em>please don&#8217;t make this awkward.</em></p></li></ul><p>And sometimes it means <em>I nearly died on that roller coaster and for some reason I want to go again.</em></p><div><hr></div><h2>Why do we laugh after being scared half to death?</h2><p>You&#8217;ve probably done it.</p><p>The roller coaster creeps up the first hill. Your heart is pounding. The car tips over the edge and your body reacts as though you have made a catastrophic transportation decision.</p><p>You scream.</p><p>Thirty seconds later, you&#8217;re laughing.</p><p>The same thing happens after a jump scare. Someone jumps out from behind a door, you nearly leave your body, and then, once you realize who it is, you laugh.</p><p>Nothing about the first half of that experience was funny.</p><p>So what changed?</p><p><strong>The threat became safe.</strong></p><p>Research on fear shows that when a threat ends, the nervous system can rapidly reduce its defensive state. Other experimental work has found that successful avoidance of an expected threat produces a distinctly pleasurable feeling of relief.</p><p>Researchers studying the relationship between fear and humor argue that playful fear works partly because we can experience something as threatening and then reinterpret it as benign. Haunted houses, scary movies, practical jokes and roller coasters put us close enough to danger to activate the machinery, while allowing another part of the brain to recognize that we are probably going to survive the experience.</p><p>Probably is doing important work on some roller coasters.</p><p>This doesn&#8217;t mean scientists have discovered a single &#8220;relief laugh&#8221; switch. The relationship between fear, relief, amusement and laughter is more complicated than that. But it helps explain something the simple &#8220;we laugh because things are funny&#8221; theory cannot.</p><p>Sometimes laughter seems to help mark the transition from:</p><p><strong>Something is wrong.</strong></p><p>to</p><p><strong>Never mind. We&#8217;re okay.</strong></p><p>And if other people are laughing with you, that message becomes even stronger.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What actually happens in your brain?</h2><p>There isn&#8217;t a single laughter center waiting for a punchline.</p><p>Brain imaging research points instead to a network involving motor systems, emotional and reward circuits, auditory areas, and regions involved in interpreting meaning and social information. Emotional laughter has been associated with activity in areas including the anterior cingulate cortex, amygdala, nucleus accumbens, motor regions, basal ganglia, thalamus and cerebellum.</p><p>Humor itself adds another layer.</p><p>A meta-analysis of 57 neuroimaging studies involving 1,248 participants found that humor engages regions associated with emotion as well as language, semantic knowledge and understanding other people&#8217;s mental states. Different kinds of humor recruit somewhat different networks because understanding a cartoon, a verbal joke and a sarcastic comment are not exactly the same cognitive job.</p><p>There is also evidence that spontaneous laughter and deliberate social laughter aren&#8217;t identical.</p><p>The laugh that erupts when something genuinely gets you appears to rely partly on different neural pathways from the laugh you produce when your boss tells a joke, and you remember who signs the checks.</p><p>Both are real human behaviors.</p><p>Only one is likely to get you promoted.</p><div><hr></div><h2>So what makes something funny?</h2><p>People have been arguing about this for a very long time.</p><p>One idea says we laugh because we feel superior to somebody else. Slapstick certainly gives that theory plenty of material.</p><p>Another says laughter releases tension.</p><p>Another focuses on incongruity. Your brain expects one thing and gets another.</p><p>Modern research hasn&#8217;t produced one grand theory that explains every joke, pun, pratfall, sarcastic remark and absurd situation. A major review found more than 20 psychological theories of humor. The strongest recurring ingredients included a perceived violation paired with some way of interpreting it as benign or acceptable.</p><p>That fits an enormous range of comedy.</p><p>A person slips on a banana peel.</p><p>If they get up embarrassed, it can be funny.</p><p>If they crack their skull open, the comedy portion of the evening is over.</p><p>Context matters.So does timing. So does expectation.</p><p>Which comedians figured out long before neuroscientists arrived with an MRI machine.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Then somebody finally wrote a joke down</h2><p>Laughter is ancient.</p><p>Written jokes are considerably younger.</p><p>One of the oldest surviving examples of recorded humor dates to ancient Mesopotamia around 1900 BCE. It is a Sumerian proverb concerning something supposedly unheard of since the beginning of time:</p><p>A young wife who did <strong>not</strong> fart in her husband&#8217;s lap.</p><p>Yes.</p><p>Nearly four thousand years of recorded comedy, and toilet humor was apparently in the pilot episode.</p><p>The identification comes from a historical humor project led by Paul McDonald at the University of Wolverhampton. Calling it the &#8220;oldest joke&#8221; requires the same caution we should use with other archaeological firsts. It is one of the oldest jokes we have <em>found</em>. People were obviously joking long before they started preserving the material on clay tablets.</p><p>Still, something is reassuring about it.</p><p>Empires rise. Languages disappear. Technologies transform civilization.</p><p>Farts remain funny.</p><div><hr></div><h2>When laughter became an art</h2><p>By the sixth century BCE, the Greeks had institutionalized comedy as theatrical entertainment. Philosophers then began doing what philosophers do best.</p><p>They worried about it.</p><p>Plato was suspicious of uncontrolled laughter and frequently associated it with ridicule and loss of self-control. Aristotle was more accommodating, treating wit as part of civilized social interaction while also thinking carefully about what made comic situations work. Later thinkers would spend centuries developing superiority, relief and incongruity theories of humor.</p><p>The important development wasn&#8217;t merely that humans laughed.</p><p>We had begun deliberately constructing things for the purpose of making other people laugh.</p><p>A biological response had become an art form.</p><p>And art eventually became a business.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The day we learned to manufacture laughter</h2><p>For most of human history, comedy had a serious distribution problem.</p><p>If you wanted to hear the funny person, you generally had to be in the same place as the funny person.</p><p>Mass entertainment changed that.</p><p>In the United States, vaudeville became one of the first large-scale systems for packaging and distributing comedy. From the early 1880s through the end of the 1920s, it was the country&#8217;s dominant form of live entertainment. Successful acts toured established circuits, performing routines over and over in theaters around the nation.</p><p>The Library of Congress describes vaudeville as a precursor to mass media. A successful act could essentially be reproduced from city to city, carrying the same jokes, monologues, sketches and comic characters to audiences who had never met one another.</p><p>Comedy had become scalable.</p><p>Then radio arrived and changed the mathematics completely.</p><p>A comedian who once needed months of touring to reach thousands of people could now speak into a microphone and reach millions at once. Performers such as Jack Benny, Fred Allen, Ed Wynn and Bob Hope carried traditions developed on the vaudeville stage into broadcasting. Hope eventually employed teams of writers because radio burned through material at a rate live touring never had.</p><p>Movies added editing, close-ups, reaction shots, music, and visual timing.</p><p>Television put the comedian in the living room.</p><p>Sitcoms turned humor into a weekly production schedule. Writers&#8217; rooms, rehearsals, retakes, and editing allowed laughter to be engineered with increasing precision.</p><p>We went from laughing during play to employing people whose job description was essentially:</p><p><strong>Make strangers exhale uncontrollably at 8:30 on Thursday night.</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BzGs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9287c6d-47b1-41ee-9810-7a7e6bcb3d45_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BzGs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9287c6d-47b1-41ee-9810-7a7e6bcb3d45_1672x941.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>And then we invented fake people to laugh with you</h2><p>The laugh track may be one of the strangest inventions in the history of entertainment.</p><p>Early radio comedians often performed in front of live audiences because laughter affected both the performer and the people listening at home. Television inherited that tradition, but production became more complicated as programs were filmed, edited and reshot.</p><p>In 1950, <em>The Hank McCune Show</em> became the first network television series known to use a recorded laugh track. Engineer Charles Douglass later developed his famous &#8220;Laff Box,&#8221; which allowed recorded audience reactions to be inserted, extended, shortened or strengthened.</p><p>Think about what television had done.</p><p>Millions of years earlier, laughter had evolved as a social signal between animals physically together.</p><p>Television separated us.</p><p>So engineers recorded the social signal and put the group back into the room electronically.</p><p>And there was a reason it worked.</p><p>Laughter is contagious.</p><p>Recent experimental research has found that simply hearing another person&#8217;s laughter can increase how funny people rate something and make their own laughter harder to suppress. Brain studies likewise show that hearing laughter engages systems involved in preparing facial responses and social behavior.</p><p>The television industry didn&#8217;t invent contagious laughter.</p><p>It put it on tape.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Everybody laughs. Not everybody laughs at the same thing.</h2><p>If laughter has such ancient biological roots, why can a joke destroy a room in London and die painfully in New York?</p><p>Because the ability to laugh may be widespread, but the triggers are partly learned.</p><p>Language, taboos, social rules, expectations, status, and shared history all provide material for humor. A joke often works because the audience knows what is normally supposed to happen. The comic violates that expectation in just the right way.</p><p>Change the expectations, and you can change the joke.</p><p>This is where familiar descriptions of &#8220;British humor,&#8221; &#8220;American humor,&#8221; &#8220;Japanese humor,&#8221; or any other national style need some care. Countries contain millions of people and multiple comedy traditions. There is no British humor gene hiding next to the gene for tea.</p><p>But cultural patterns are real.</p><p>One study showed clips of British television comedies to British and American English speakers. The British participants rated them as funnier and were more likely to pick up the irony and sarcasm that some of the American viewers missed. The language was technically English in both cases. The cultural cues weren&#8217;t identical.</p><p>That helps explain why British comedy has developed a reputation for deadpan delivery, understatement, irony and awkwardness, while many American comedy traditions favor a more explicit setup, punchline, larger comic persona or direct observational style.</p><p>Those are traditions, not rules.</p><p>A broader review of cross-cultural humor research found differences in how humor is valued and used across societies. North American participants have generally reported more positive attitudes toward humor and greater use of humor than East Asian participants in the studies examined. Just as importantly, the authors warned that the existing research is limited and disproportionately focused on a relatively small number of cultural comparisons.</p><p>Translation makes matters even more interesting.</p><p>A pratfall can travel reasonably well.</p><p>A pun may die at customs.</p><p>Sarcasm can be even worse because the listener has to understand not only the words, but that the speaker doesn&#8217;t actually mean them.</p><p>So the human capacity for laughter may be ancient and broadly shared.</p><p><strong>What we laugh at carries our culture with it.</strong></p><div><hr></div><h2>Comedy becomes an industry</h2><p>By the twentieth century, laughter wasn&#8217;t simply something that happened between people. It supported theaters, studios, radio networks, television networks, movie companies, comedy clubs, writers, actors, directors, producers and advertisers.</p><ul><li><p>Vaudeville fed radio.</p></li><li><p>Vaudeville and radio fed movies.</p></li><li><p>Radio and theater fed television.</p></li><li><p>Television produced sitcoms, sketch shows and late-night comedy.</p></li><li><p>Stand-up developed its own clubs, touring circuits, records and specials.</p></li><li><p>Cable expanded the market.</p></li><li><p>Streaming removed the schedule.</p></li><li><p>The internet removed most of the remaining gatekeepers.</p></li></ul><p>Today a comedian can spend months writing and touring a one-hour special. Or somebody can fall off a folding chair in a twelve-second video and make half the planet laugh before breakfast.</p><p>The technology changes. The underlying transaction doesn&#8217;t.</p><p><strong>One human tries to trigger an ancient response in another human.</strong></p><p>Sometimes advertisers pay for the privilege.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Is laughter really the best medicine?</h2><p>No. Penicillin is going to be offended. </p><p>But the clich&#233; isn&#8217;t completely empty either.</p><p>Laughter has measurable physiological effects. A 2023 systematic review and meta-analysis examined eight intervention studies involving 315 adults and found that laughter interventions were associated with lower cortisol levels compared with control conditions. The pooled reduction was substantial, although the evidence base was small.</p><p>Research has also linked laughter with autonomic recovery after stress, increased pain tolerance and changes consistent with activation of the body&#8217;s endogenous opioid system.</p><p>More recent reviews of laughter-based interventions have found promising effects on stress and anxiety. But they have also reported high variability among studies, inconsistent methods, and methodological limitations. A 2026 meta-analysis of randomized trials, for example, found a large average reduction in reported stress but extremely high statistical heterogeneity, meaning the size of the effect varied greatly from study to study.</p><p>That&#8217;s an important distinction.</p><p>There is decent evidence that laughter can affect stress, mood and some physiological measures.</p><p>That is not the same as proving that laughter prevents disease, &#8220;boosts the immune system&#8221; in some sweeping clinical sense, treats cancer or replaces medicine.</p><p>Laughter may be good for you.</p><p>It is not chemotherapy.</p><p>Science gets considerably less funny when we forget the difference.</p><div><hr></div><h2>A very old piece of social technology</h2><p>The more we study laughter, the harder it becomes to describe it simply.</p><p>It is a vocalization.</p><p>An emotional expression.</p><p>A social signal.</p><p>A response to play.</p><p>A response to humor.</p><p>A response to embarrassment.</p><p>Sometimes a response to fear.</p><p>A tool for bonding.</p><p>A way of showing agreement.</p><p>Something we can produce voluntarily.</p><p>Something that can completely escape voluntary control.</p><p>Something babies do before they can tell jokes, and something our evolutionary relatives do without ever having watched a sitcom.</p><p>Then humans took this ancient behavior and built culture around it.</p><p>We wrote jokes.</p><p>We put comedy on stages.</p><p>We charged admission.</p><p>We recorded it.</p><p>Broadcast it.</p><p>Filmed it.</p><p>Created professional joke writers.</p><p>Invented sitcoms.</p><p>Invented comedy clubs.</p><p>Invented laugh tracks.</p><p>And eventually built phones capable of delivering a practically unlimited supply of people getting hit in sensitive areas by objects they should have seen coming.</p><p>Progress is difficult to measure.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The last laugh</h2><p>After 15 million years of evolution, thousands of years of comedy, centuries of philosophy, and decades of neuroscience, scientists still haven&#8217;t completely figured out why we laugh.</p><p>Which is probably for the best.</p><p>Because nothing kills a joke faster than explaining it.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If you enjoy following ordinary questions farther than they usually go, subscribe to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>. Sometimes following the evidence takes us into medicine, psychology, or misinformation.</p><p>And sometimes it leads to scientists tickling rats.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg" width="800" height="52" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/af3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:52,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:13542,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211930719?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tLxZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf3cd393-7d63-4291-8c06-8d485df2159e_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><h3>Selected research and sources</h3><ul><li><p>De Gregorio, C., Davila-Ross, M., &amp; Lameira, A. R. &#8220;<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-026-10499-z?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Rhythm and timing in laughter reveal that human vocal plasticity falls on a hominid continuum</a>.&#8221; <em>Communications Biology</em>, 9, 824 (2026).</p></li><li><p>Provine, R. R. &#8220;<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0310.1993.tb00478.x">Laughter Punctuates Speech: Linguistic, Social and Gender Contexts of Laughter</a>.&#8221; <em>Ethology</em>, 95, 291&#8211;298 (1993).</p></li><li><p>Dunbar, R. I. M., Frangou, A., Grainger, F., &amp; Pearce, E. &#8220;<a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0256229&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">Laughter influences social bonding but not prosocial generosity to friends and strangers</a>.&#8221; <em>PLOS ONE</em>, 16(8), e0256229 (2021).</p></li><li><p>Caruana, F., Palagi, E., &amp; de Waal, F. B. M. &#8220;<a href="https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2022.0159">Cracking the laugh code: laughter through the lens of biology, psychology and neuroscience</a>.&#8221; <em>Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B</em>, 377, 20220159 (2022).</p></li><li><p>Hye-Knudsen, M., Kjeldgaard-Christiansen, J., Boutwell, B. B., &amp; Clasen, M. &#8220;<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14747049241258355?utm_source=chatgpt.com">First They Scream, Then They Laugh: The Cognitive Intersections of Humor and Fear</a>.&#8221; <em>Evolutionary Psychology</em>, 22(2) (2024).</p></li><li><p>Chen, X., &amp; Dewaele, J.-M. &#8220;<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0271530921000367?utm_source=chatgpt.com">&#8216;We are not amused&#8217;: The appreciation of British humour by British and American English L1 users</a>.&#8221; <em>Language &amp; Communication</em>, 79, 147&#8211;162 (2021).</p></li><li><p>Lu, J. G. &#8220;<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352250X23001355?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Cultural differences in humor: A systematic review and critique</a>.&#8221; <em>Current Opinion in Psychology</em>, 53, 101690 (2023).</p></li><li><p>Kramer, C. K., &amp; Leit&#227;o, C. B. &#8220;<a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0286260&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">Laughter as medicine: A systematic review and meta-analysis of interventional studies evaluating the impact of spontaneous laughter on cortisol levels</a>.&#8221; <em>PLOS ONE</em>, 18(5), e0286260 (2023).</p></li><li><p>Library of Congress. &#8220;<a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Bob Hope and American Variety</a>,&#8221; including its collections on <a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/vaude.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">vaudeville</a>, <a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/radio.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">radio</a>, and <a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/tv.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">television</a>.</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[If Vaccines Are So Safe, Why Does Big Pharma Need Immunity?]]></title><description><![CDATA[What the question is intended to imply and how the law works]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/if-vaccines-are-safe-why-immunity</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/if-vaccines-are-safe-why-immunity</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 21:48:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2-s_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5cb16e4-0ff1-4d70-babc-bb95b488702f_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2-s_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5cb16e4-0ff1-4d70-babc-bb95b488702f_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2-s_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5cb16e4-0ff1-4d70-babc-bb95b488702f_1672x941.jpeg 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The question is usually presented as a challenge:</p><blockquote><p>If vaccines are so safe, why does Big Pharma need immunity from lawsuits?</p></blockquote><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/AaronSiriSG/status/2088363266762281075&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Cars, planes, drugs, etc., survive in the open market without immunity and so could vaccines&#8212;if they were actually safe.\n<a class=\&quot;tweet-url\&quot; href=\&quot;https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/if-vaccines-are-so-safe-and-effective\&quot;>aaronsiri.substack.com/p/if-vaccines-&#8230;</a> &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;AaronSiriSG&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Aaron Siri&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1446256856163258369/bHEo8oNP_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-14T20:32:57.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HPtbUi3XsAAWcv0.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/XkZzhLrpAf&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:57,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:751,&quot;like_count&quot;:2096,&quot;impression_count&quot;:28638,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Attorney Aaron Siri has made versions of this question a part of his criticisms of vaccine policy. While Siri does not necessarily require an answer to the question of the legislative history of the vaccines, he does raise an important point regarding the safety of those vaccines. </p><p>If vaccines are considered to be safe by their manufacturers and by public health officials, then why do manufacturers receive such broad protections against lawsuits related to those products? </p><p>The question shifts the focus of the discussion from the potential dangers of specific vaccines to the reasons for which the vaccine manufacturers were given such protections in the first place. Also, the answer to this question would show a lack of confidence of those vaccine manufacturers in the safety of their products.</p><p>That implication is worth examining, but the question does not answer itself.</p><p>Congress granted those protections because safe does not mean risk-free, and lawmakers decided that the public interest in maintaining a stable vaccine supply justified protecting manufacturers from much of the cost and uncertainty of ordinary product-liability litigation.</p><p>In 1986, Congress created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, or VICP. People who believe they were injured by certain vaccines generally must go through that program before pursuing a lawsuit against the manufacturer or administrator. In exchange for the right to manufacture pharmaceutical products, these manufacturers received important protection from civil liability in relation to the drugs that they manufactured.</p><p>That is the trade. The government accepted that serious vaccine injuries can happen, created a system to compensate those people, and restricted the circumstances under which manufacturers can be sued.</p><p>Although the existence of these protections does not prove the vaccines are unsafe, it is not meaningless. It is instead a decision made by the government to shift the risk of financial losses from the vaccine manufacturers to the Compensation Program for the Vaccination Program.</p><div><hr></div><h3>The protection is broad, but it is not absolute</h3><p>&#8220;Big Pharma&#8221; is the language of the challenge. The law is more specific. It protects manufacturers and administrators of vaccines covered by the VICP. It does not give every pharmaceutical company blanket immunity for every product it sells.</p><p>Under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, someone seeking more than $1,000 for an alleged injury from a covered vaccine generally must file a VICP petition first.</p><p>In some circumstances, a petitioner who rejects the program&#8217;s judgment or withdraws after the program fails to meet certain deadlines may pursue a civil lawsuit. <a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/faq">HRSA acknowledges that the liability protections are not absolute</a>.</p><p>Still, the protection is substantial.</p><p>In 2011, the Supreme Court ruled in <em>Bruesewitz v. Wyeth</em> that the Vaccine Act preempts all design-defect claims against manufacturers involving injuries caused by the side effects of covered vaccines. A claimant cannot leave the VICP and sue on the theory that the vaccine should have been designed differently.</p><p>The <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/09-152">Supreme Court described the arrangement</a> as a tradeoff. Manufacturers received significant protection from tort liability, while people alleging injury were given access to a no-fault compensation program funded through an excise tax on covered vaccines.</p><p>Manufacturers may still face certain claims involving manufacturing defects, failures to comply with federal requirements, or conduct falling outside the Act&#8217;s protections. Claimants must first follow the VICP process when the law requires it.</p><p>&#8220;Immunity&#8221; is therefore convenient shorthand, but <strong>broad liability protection</strong> is more precise when discussing routinely administered vaccines. Lawsuits remain possible in limited circumstances, but many claims normally available against other product manufacturers are restricted or barred.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Why did Congress create this protection?</h3><p>According to <a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/about">HRSA&#8217;s history of the VICP</a>, lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers and healthcare providers were threatening to cause vaccine shortages, raise costs, and reduce vaccination rates.</p><p>Congress responded by creating a system intended to maintain an adequate vaccine supply, stabilize vaccine costs, and provide injured people with a less costly alternative to traditional litigation.</p><p>That was a policy decision, not a scientific finding that vaccines were perfectly safe.</p><p>Even a product with a low rate of serious injury can generate substantial litigation when it is given to millions of people. Some claims will involve recognized adverse reactions. Others will involve medical problems that happened after vaccination but were not caused by it. Sorting those cases through ordinary courts can be slow and expensive.</p><p>Congress decided that a specialized compensation system was preferable.</p><p>Whether it struck the right balance is a separate question.</p><div><hr></div><h3>What about the billions already paid?</h3><p>The government has paid billions through the vaccine compensation system. That fact matters, but it does not tell us how frequently vaccines cause serious injuries or mean that every compensated claim established causation.</p><p>I examined the payout total, settlements, legal fees, and missing denominator separately in <strong><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/if-vaccines-are-safe-why-immunity">Billions Paid for Vaccine Injuries?</a></strong></p><p>Here, the relevant point is that the compensation program and manufacturer liability protections were created together. Congress restricted many lawsuits against manufacturers while establishing a separate system to pay people with qualifying claims.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Who actually pays?</h3><p>VICP awards are paid from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Trust Fund.</p><p>The fund receives revenue from a federal excise tax on covered vaccines. The tax is 75 cents for each disease a dose prevents. A measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine is taxed at $2.25 because it prevents three diseases.</p><p>An injured person is therefore generally compensated by the trust fund rather than through a judgment paid directly by the vaccine manufacturer.</p><p>That distinction matters. The financial consequences of an injury are spread through a government-administered fund tied to vaccine sales instead of being placed entirely on the company that made the individual product.</p><p>That does not prove the arrangement is improper. It does show that the risk has been redistributed.</p><div><hr></div><h3>COVID vaccines are covered by a different law</h3><p>If the immunity question is specifically about COVID vaccines, the legal framework is different.</p><p>COVID vaccine claims are handled through the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, or CICP, rather than the VICP.</p><p>The <a href="https://www.aspr.gov/about/law-policy-strategy/amendments-public-health-service-act/prep-act">Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act</a> provides immunity from suit and liability to covered people and organizations involved in developing, manufacturing, testing, distributing, administering, and using designated emergency countermeasures.</p><p>The principal statutory exception is willful misconduct.</p><p>That protection is not unique to COVID vaccines. The PREP Act can cover vaccines, drugs, medical devices, and other countermeasures used in response to specified public-health threats.</p><p>Still, it is a very different legal route from an ordinary product-liability lawsuit. Someone alleging a serious COVID vaccine injury must seek benefits through the CICP and meet that program&#8217;s requirements.</p><p>The VICP and CICP should not be treated as the same system simply because both can involve vaccines.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211367513?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTxy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5124d658-09fa-4a19-812c-5c93506e703b_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><p>Are we leaning too far toward the government&#8217;s explanation by describing immunity as a reasonable policy tradeoff?</p><p>Possibly.</p><p>Liability does more than compensate an injured person. Lawsuits can expose internal records, challenge decisions made by manufacturers, and create financial pressure to improve a product. When design-defect claims are barred, more responsibility falls on regulators, postmarketing surveillance, independent researchers, and the compensation system itself.</p><p>That makes transparency and effective safety monitoring especially important.</p><p>It is also fair to ask whether injured people receive the other half of the bargain Congress promised. Is the process accessible? Are the filing deadlines reasonable? Are cases resolved quickly enough? Is compensation adequate? Are claimants given a meaningful opportunity to prove causation?</p><p>HRSA&#8217;s August 2026 report says VICP petitions take an average of two to three years to adjudicate. COVID claims face a separate program with different requirements and limitations.</p><p>But we should question the other direction too.</p><p>Siri&#8217;s question implies that a genuinely safe product would never need liability protection. That does not necessarily follow. A product used hundreds of millions of times can generate enormous litigation costs even if serious injuries are rare. The existence of protection proves that Congress was concerned about litigation and vaccine supply. It does not prove that manufacturers secretly knew their vaccines were broadly dangerous.</p><p>A policy can have a legitimate purpose and still deserve scrutiny decades later.</p><div><hr></div><h3>So why does the industry need immunity?</h3><p>Because Congress believed unrestricted vaccine litigation could threaten vaccine availability and raise costs. It chose to protect manufacturers while moving injury claims into a government-administered compensation program.</p><p>That answers why the protection exists.</p><p>What the protection does not prove is that vaccines are broadly dangerous. What it does prove is that lawmakers recognized the possibility of serious injury and decided that manufacturers should not bear the same legal exposure they face with most other products.</p><p>Immunity is not a scientific verdict about vaccine safety. It is a legal and economic policy choice.</p><p>The real debate is whether that choice still gives injured people a fair deal while protecting the vaccine supply, or whether the balance has shifted too far toward the companies being protected.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h3>Support independent, evidence-based analysis</h3><p>If you value articles that take difficult questions seriously, examine the evidence, and question their own conclusions, consider subscribing to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>.</p><p>Free subscribers receive new articles as they are published. Paid subscriptions help support the research, source review, and time required to produce this work.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><strong>Subscribe for free, or become a paid supporter to help keep this work going</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg" width="800" height="52" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:52,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:13542,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211367513?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eKTl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2934c49-e553-4d11-8a7e-e390db4021ea_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>Resources</h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/about">HRSA: About the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/faq">HRSA: Vaccine liability protections and frequently asked questions</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vicp/vicp-stats-08-01-26.pdf">HRSA: VICP Data and Statistics, August 2026</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/09-152">Supreme Court: </a><em><a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/09-152">Bruesewitz v. Wyeth</a></em></p></li><li><p><a href="https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?edition=prelim&amp;path=%2Fprelim%40title42%2Fchapter6A%2Fsubchapter19%2Fpart2">U.S. Code: National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.aspr.gov/about/law-policy-strategy/amendments-public-health-service-act/prep-act">HHS: Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sirillp.com/legal-blog/vaccine-injury/can-you-sue-vaccine-manufacturer-for-vaccine-injury/">Siri &amp; Glimstad: Can You Sue a Vaccine Manufacturer for a Vaccine Injury?</a></p></li></ul><h3></h3>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Autism Survey “Replication” That Isn’t]]></title><description><![CDATA[Weinstein reproduced Kirsch&#8217;s striking pattern. The survey still can&#8217;t show vaccines caused it.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/autism-survey-replication-that-isnt</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/autism-survey-replication-that-isnt</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 13:03:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0_WS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f55ce8-9c2f-4462-b77f-22a82760a181_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0_WS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f55ce8-9c2f-4462-b77f-22a82760a181_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0_WS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f55ce8-9c2f-4462-b77f-22a82760a181_1672x941.jpeg 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The first round of Steve Kirsch&#8217;s autism survey produced a striking result. Parents who reported fully vaccinated children also reported what Kirsch calls <strong>Sudden Onset Regressive Autism</strong>, or SORA, far more often than parents of completely unvaccinated children.</p><p>That was worth paying attention to, but it was not enough to establish causation. The survey was self-selected, the outcome was not clinically verified, and important information such as the child&#8217;s age, vaccination dates, and timing of regression was missing.</p><p>Then Bret Weinstein posted the same survey to his own followers.</p><p>That matters.</p><p>Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist and host of the <strong>DarkHorse Podcast</strong>, with an audience separate from Kirsch&#8217;s. If a second audience produced the same pattern, it would make it harder to dismiss the original result as something unique to Kirsch&#8217;s own subscribers.</p><p>According to the numbers Kirsch supplied, that is what happened.</p><p>Kirsch identified a second set of responses as coming from Weinstein&#8217;s followers, and those responses again showed the same basic pattern:</p><p><strong>unvaccinated &lt; partially vaccinated &lt; fully vaccinated</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png" width="722" height="169" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:169,&quot;width&quot;:722,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:13111,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Kirsch AI calculated a risk ratio&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211557414?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Kirsch AI calculated a risk ratio" title="Kirsch AI calculated a risk ratio" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5mV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7291c047-823f-45fb-befd-4e0c4771af39_722x169.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><strong>Using the figures Kirsch supplied, his AI calculated a risk ratio of approximately 13.2</strong> for fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated children and <strong>7.8</strong> for partially vaccinated versus unvaccinated children.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Those are striking numbers. They deserve to be examined.</p><p>But there is an important provenance issue from the start.</p><p>This was not a separately published Weinstein study that we independently obtained and audited. These are <strong>Kirsch&#8217;s reported numbers for the Weinstein referral group</strong>, supplied by Kirsch to his own AI analysis.</p><p>That distinction matters.</p><p>So does another one:</p><p><strong>Reproducing an association is not the same thing as reproducing a causal effect.</strong></p><p>The Weinstein result does weaken one simple criticism: that Kirsch&#8217;s original finding could only have been produced by his own followers.</p><p>But it still does not answer the most important question:</p><h4><strong>What caused the pattern?</strong></h4><p>This is the third time we have examined a striking Kirsch result where the observation may be real, but the causal conclusion goes beyond what the method can establish.</p><p>In <strong><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/the-anonymous-autism-clinic-that">The Anonymous Autism Clinic That &#8220;Proved&#8221; Vaccines Cause Autism</a></strong>, the problem was a temporal cluster without an adequate denominator or comparison period.</p><p>In <strong><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/kcors-causal-contradiction">KCOR&#8217;s Causal Contradiction</a></strong>, the problem was a statistical signal being treated as though the method had identified its cause.</p><p>This time, Kirsch says the result has been replicated.</p><p>So the question is no longer whether there is a striking signal.</p><p>There is.</p><p>The question is whether this survey can tell us what produced it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What Weinstein&#8217;s Result Actually Adds</h2><p>This is the strongest part of Kirsch&#8217;s new argument.</p><p>Weinstein gave the survey access to a second audience, and according to Kirsch&#8217;s figures, that group produced the same ordering:</p><p><strong>unvaccinated &lt; partially vaccinated &lt; fully vaccinated</strong></p><p>That makes it harder to dismiss the original result as something peculiar to Kirsch&#8217;s own subscribers.</p><p><strong>Fair enough.</strong></p><p>But it does not make the second sample independent in the way that matters scientifically.</p><p>The important question is not simply whether <strong>Kirsch&#8217;s subscriber list</strong> and <strong>Weinstein&#8217;s follower list</strong> contain different people.</p><p>It is whether the <strong>people who chose to complete the survey</strong> were selected in similar ways.</p><p>A different person posting the same opt-in survey does not automatically produce a representative sample. If both audiences contain people unusually interested in vaccine safety, vaccine injury, autism, or medical-policy criticism, the same self-selection mechanism can operate in both.</p><p>And in this case, we do not have to speculate entirely about the environment in which Weinstein&#8217;s survey was circulating.</p><p>We can actually see part of it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Look at the Recruitment Environment</h2><p>Bret Weinstein&#8217;s post reportedly received hundreds of thousands of views.</p><p>Now look at some of the replies underneath it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZbCv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5055824f-897f-4cd5-9057-05bdae8e8a86_552x928.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This screenshot cannot tell us what percentage of all survey respondents held any particular belief.</em></figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p>This screenshot cannot tell us what percentage of all survey respondents held any particular belief. Public commenters may also differ from people who silently completed the survey. So the screenshot should not be used to calculate the amount of bias.</p><p>But it tells us something important about the environment in which recruitment occurred.</p><p>This was not a neutral cross-section of parents encountering an ordinary child-development survey.</p><p>Visible participants were already discussing:</p><ul><li><p>vaccine injury,</p></li><li><p>autism and vaccination,</p></li><li><p>HPV-vaccine harm,</p></li><li><p>PANS/PANDAS,</p></li><li><p>vaccine-acquired MCAS,</p></li><li><p>whether vaccination had been the right decision,</p></li><li><p>and whether various developmental symptoms should count.</p></li></ul><p>That does not mean anyone lied. It illustrates something more important.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Selection Bias Does Not Require Anyone to Lie</h2><p>Kirsch&#8217;s AI discussion repeatedly treats selection bias as though critics are accusing respondents of consciously gaming the survey.</p><p>That is not what selection bias means.</p><p>Selection bias can happen when some people are simply more likely to participate than others.</p><p>Imagine two parents see Weinstein&#8217;s post.</p><p>One has three vaccinated children who developed normally. She reads it and keeps scrolling.</p><p>Another has a vaccinated child who abruptly lost speech and eye contact and has spent years wondering whether vaccination played a role. She sees a survey about vaccination and developmental regression and decides to complete it.</p><p>Nobody lied. Nobody coordinated. Nobody manipulated anything. One parent was simply more motivated to respond.</p><p>That is enough.</p><p>Telling everyone to answer does not make everyone equally likely to answer. The people who saw the invitation and kept scrolling are exactly the people whose response probability the survey cannot measure.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>The bias does not have to be in the answers. </strong></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>It can be in who feels compelled to answer.</strong></p></div><p>Research on nonprobability web surveys specifically recognizes <strong>topical self-selection</strong> as a major concern. People with unusually strong experiences or interests related to the survey topic can be much more likely to enter the sample.</p><p>Andrew Mercer, no relation to this author, and colleagues explain that when respondents are not randomly selected, self-selection can bias survey estimates and make conventional population inference unreliable.</p><p>That is precisely the problem here.</p><div><hr></div><h2>&#8220;But The Risk Ratio Is Huge&#8221;</h2><p>Kirsch argues that an effect this large cannot plausibly be caused by selection. There is no statistical rule saying that.</p><p>Using Weinstein&#8217;s reported numbers:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Fully vaccinated: 8.60%</strong></p><p><strong>Unvaccinated: 0.65%</strong></p></div><p>Suppose, purely as a demonstration, that the underlying rate were actually 0.65% in both populations.</p><p>If vaccinated families experiencing SORA-like regression were dramatically more likely to enter this particular survey than vaccinated families without regression, the observed rate among respondents could become many times larger than the true population rate.</p><p>That is not a claim about what actually happened. We do not know the response probabilities. And that is exactly the problem.</p><p>The survey cannot tell us:</p><ul><li><p><strong>P(response | fully vaccinated, SORA)</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>P(response | fully vaccinated, no SORA)</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>P(response | unvaccinated, SORA)</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>P(response | unvaccinated, no SORA)</strong></p></li></ul><p>Without those probabilities, a large risk ratio among respondents cannot automatically be interpreted as a large biological risk in the population.</p><p>Adding more respondents does not solve systematic self-selection. A large unvaccinated comparison group helps reduce random sampling noise. It does not tell us whether the people who entered either group were representative of the families who did not.</p><p>A large sample can produce a very precise estimate of a biased sample.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Survey Calls Itself a &#8220;National Assessment&#8221;</h2><p>The questionnaire states that its goal is to obtain:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;an independent national assessment of the rate of autism in the US and other countries.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>But there is no national probability sample. Participants arrive through sources including:</p><ul><li><p>Steve Kirsch,</p></li><li><p>Bret Weinstein,</p></li><li><p>Dr. Drew,</p></li><li><p>Vigilant Fox,</p></li><li><p>A Midwestern Doctor,</p></li><li><p>X posts,</p></li><li><p>and other referral channels.</p></li></ul><p><strong>These are not neutral recruitment channels.</strong> Several of them have audiences already highly engaged with vaccine safety, medical-policy criticism, or vaccine-injury claims. That does not mean every respondent was vaccine skeptical, but it increases the likelihood that people with strong prior beliefs or personal experiences related to vaccination were overrepresented among those who chose to participate.</p><p>That is exactly the kind of environment where <strong>topical self-selection</strong> becomes a serious concern.</p><p>There are no known population inclusion probabilities. There is no representative sampling frame. There is no mechanism ensuring that families with and without developmental concerns are equally likely to respond.</p><p>This can generate an exploratory dataset. It cannot simply be treated as a national epidemiological estimate.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Survey Does Not Actually Diagnose Autism</h2><p>This is one of the biggest problems. The questionnaire does not ask whether a child has a professionally confirmed autism spectrum disorder diagnosis. Instead, it creates its own outcome called SORA.</p><p>A child qualifies through a parent-reported combination of:</p><ol><li><p>loss of one or more previously mastered abilities, and</p></li><li><p>acquisition of new repetitive or dysfunctional behaviors.</p></li></ol><p>Examples include loss of:</p><ul><li><p>speech,</p></li><li><p>eye contact,</p></li><li><p>crawling,</p></li><li><p>walking,</p></li><li><p>toileting,</p></li><li><p>breastfeeding latch,</p></li><li><p>comfort being held,</p></li><li><p>fine or gross motor ability,</p></li><li><p>and social interaction.</p></li></ul><p>New behaviors can include:</p><ul><li><p>head banging,</p></li><li><p>hand flapping,</p></li><li><p>back arching,</p></li><li><p>sensory sensitivity,</p></li><li><p>food refusal,</p></li><li><p>screaming,</p></li><li><p>and extreme fussiness.</p></li></ul><p>Those observations can certainly be clinically important. They do not by themselves establish autism.</p><p>The questionnaire does not collect:</p><ul><li><p>confirmed ASD diagnosis,</p></li><li><p>diagnosing clinician,</p></li><li><p>diagnostic instrument,</p></li><li><p>age at diagnosis,</p></li><li><p>developmental evaluation,</p></li><li><p>or medical verification of the reported regression.</p></li></ul><p>So the measured outcome is:</p><p><strong>parent-reported behavior meeting Kirsch&#8217;s SORA definition.</strong></p><p>That is not automatically:</p><p><strong>clinically confirmed regressive autism.</strong></p><p>The Weinstein screenshot actually shows this problem happening in real time.</p><p>One person asks whether ADHD, loss of eye contact, anger, and not wanting to be touched should count.</p><p>Another says her children are autistic, but she is unsure whether they meet the survey&#8217;s SORA definition.</p><p>Respondents are deciding for themselves where the boundary lies.</p><div><hr></div><h2>&#8220;Fully Vaccinated&#8221; Is Not a Vaccine Dose</h2><p>Kirsch calls this a dose-response relationship:</p><p><strong>unvaccinated &#8594; partially vaccinated &#8594; fully vaccinated.</strong></p><p>But the questionnaire never measures vaccine dose.</p><p>It does not collect:</p><ul><li><p>number of vaccines,</p></li><li><p>number of doses,</p></li><li><p>vaccine names,</p></li><li><p>vaccine dates,</p></li><li><p>age at vaccination,</p></li><li><p>spacing,</p></li><li><p>or cumulative exposure.</p></li></ul><p>&#8220;Partially vaccinated&#8221; could describe dramatically different vaccine histories.</p><p>&#8220;Fully vaccinated&#8221; also means different things at different ages and in different countries.</p><p>A one-year-old current on schedule and a 19-year-old who completed years of immunization can both be classified as fully vaccinated.</p><p>The survey includes multiple countries and nearly two decades of childhood ages.</p><p>So these are not measured biological dose categories. They are broad vaccination-status categories.</p><p>The stair-step pattern is interesting.</p><p>Calling it proof that increasing vaccine dose causes increasing neurological injury goes beyond what was measured.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Survey Never Establishes Which Happened First</h2><p>This may be the most serious causal flaw.</p><p>The hypothesis is:</p><p><strong>vaccination &#8594; regression.</strong></p><p>But the questionnaire does not collect the dates required to establish that sequence.</p><p>There is no:</p><ul><li><p>age at regression,</p></li><li><p>date of regression,</p></li><li><p>date of last vaccine,</p></li><li><p>vaccine preceding regression,</p></li><li><p>or time interval between vaccination and regression.</p></li></ul><p>Imagine a child who receives routine vaccinations, begins regressing, and whose parents then stop vaccinating.</p><p>Years later that child may appear in the survey as:</p><p><strong>partially vaccinated + SORA.</strong></p><p>But the developmental event helped determine the eventual vaccination category.</p><p>Now imagine another child who regresses but continues receiving later vaccines and eventually completes the schedule.</p><p>That child appears as:</p><p><strong>fully vaccinated + SORA.</strong></p><p>Those are very different temporal histories.</p><p>The survey combines them.</p><p>Without dates, it cannot reliably establish that the exposure classification being compared existed <strong>before the outcome</strong>.</p><p>Causation requires temporality.</p><p>This survey does not adequately measure it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>It Does Not Record Each Child&#8217;s Age Either</h2><p>The survey asks about children under 20 but does not collect child-level ages.</p><p>That matters.</p><p>A six-month-old and a 19-year-old have not had equal opportunities:</p><ul><li><p>to receive vaccines,</p></li><li><p>to experience regression,</p></li><li><p>to receive diagnoses,</p></li><li><p>or to have developmental differences recognized.</p></li></ul><p>If the age distributions differ across vaccination categories, apparent risk differences can follow.</p><p>Maybe the age distributions are identical.</p><p>Maybe they are not.</p><p>The survey does not know.</p><p>And data that were never collected cannot be statistically adjusted later.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Children From the Same Family Are Not Independent</h2><p>There is another problem with treating these numbers as though every child is a completely separate data point.</p><p>One person can report several children, grandchildren, or both. Those children may share genetics, the same household, similar healthcare decisions, the same family attitudes toward vaccination, and, importantly, the same person reporting what happened.</p><p>That matters statistically. Four children reported by one parent are not the same as four unrelated children reported by four different families. Treating them as if they are can make the results look more precise than they really are.</p><p>There is also a duplication problem the survey cannot rule out.</p><p>A mother could report a child. A grandmother could report the same child separately. A father could do the same. Different email addresses would not necessarily catch that.</p><p>That does not mean duplicate children are definitely in the dataset.</p><p>It means the survey has no reliable way to show that they are not.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Confidence Intervals Do Not Prove Replication</h2><p>Kirsch&#8217;s AI eventually summarized the two datasets this way:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png" width="715" height="184" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:184,&quot;width&quot;:715,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:18622,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211557414?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQfT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e874a19-b476-4f53-a30b-9573c86bacee_715x184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Risk ratios and confidence intervals as summarized in Kirsch&#8217;s AI analysis. The Weinstein figures were supplied by Kirsch and identified as responses originating from Weinstein&#8217;s followers.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The AI then said the overlapping intervals were a strong indicator of scientific replication and that the audience-bias argument was effectively dead.</p><p><strong>That is too strong.</strong></p><p>Overlapping confidence intervals show that the numerical estimates are statistically compatible under the assumptions used to calculate them.</p><p>They do not establish that:</p><ul><li><p>either sample represents the population,</p></li><li><p>the same bias did not operate in both samples,</p></li><li><p>SORA was measured accurately,</p></li><li><p>vaccination was classified correctly,</p></li><li><p>temporality was established,</p></li><li><p>or the observed association is causal.</p></li></ul><p>And the confidence intervals themselves do not contain a term for unknown self-selection into the survey.</p><p>Precision is not protection against systematic bias.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kirsch&#8217;s AI Report Contains Its Own Warning Signs</h2><p>The AI transcript may be more revealing than the final table.</p><p>At one point, earlier numbers showed:</p><ul><li><p>7.22% fully vaccinated,</p></li><li><p>6.96% partially vaccinated,</p></li><li><p>0.37% unvaccinated.</p></li></ul><p>There was essentially <strong>no difference between fully and partially vaccinated children.</strong></p><p>The AI acknowledged this.</p><p>Then it proposed that vaccination might instead have a <strong>threshold effect</strong>, where any exposure triggers the mechanism.</p><p>Later, when updated numbers produced a clear stair-step pattern, the same AI called the dose-response relationship evidence of causation.</p><p>Think about what that means.</p><p><strong>No dose response?</strong></p><p>Threshold effect supports vaccination.</p><p><strong>Dose response?</strong></p><p>Dose response supports vaccination.</p><p>Either result confirms the same hypothesis.</p><p>That is not a strong test of a hypothesis.</p><p>It is a hypothesis being protected from falsification.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Same Thing Happened With the Confidence Intervals</h2><p>At one point, the AI misread Weinstein&#8217;s numbers and calculated an effect whose confidence interval <strong>did not overlap</strong> Kirsch&#8217;s. It still called the finding a replication and even described the difference as potentially good news.</p><p>Kirsch corrected the numbers. Now the intervals <strong>did overlap</strong>. The AI called that a &#8220;massive result&#8221; and declared the signal confirmed.</p><p>So:</p><p><strong>Non-overlap = replication.</strong></p><p>Then:</p><p><strong>Overlap = replication.</strong></p><p>Again, the conclusion survives either outcome.</p><div><hr></div><h2>&#8220;Validated&#8221; Quietly Changes Meaning Too</h2><p>Earlier in the transcript, the AI produced a much better methodological assessment.</p><p>After examining respondent comments, it noted evidence consistent with:</p><ul><li><p>selection bias,</p></li><li><p>attribution bias,</p></li><li><p>outcome misclassification,</p></li><li><p>uncertainty about vaccination status,</p></li><li><p>and secondhand reporting by grandparents.</p></li></ul><p>It also correctly distinguished <strong>internally consistent records</strong> from medically validated cases.</p><p>No medical records, vaccination records, diagnoses or onset dates had actually been verified.</p><p>Later, after Kirsch emphasized that respondents had email addresses and could be contacted, the AI changed its position. It said the possibility of checking respondents moved the dataset into the realm of <strong>clinical registry data</strong> and called the result &#8220;statistically bulletproof.&#8221;</p><p>But nothing had actually been clinically validated. The ability to verify something later is not verification.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The AI Even Advises Kirsch to Collect Less Information</h2><p>One exchange deserves special attention.</p><p>Kirsch asks whether he should add questions that might help examine alternative explanations.</p><p>The AI advises keeping the survey simple.</p><p>Why?</p><p>Because additional variables would give critics more &#8220;confounders&#8221; to discuss. It describes the survey&#8217;s simplicity as an <strong>&#8220;impenetrable shield.&#8221;</strong></p><p>That is backwards. Potential confounders are not rhetorical ammunition. They are information.</p><p>If another factor explains the association, a researcher should want to discover it. A study becomes stronger by measuring plausible alternative explanations. Not by preventing them from entering the dataset.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What About the &#8220;24:1 Healthier&#8221; Claim?</h2><p>Kirsch also highlights families containing vaccinated and unvaccinated children and says parents overwhelmingly report that the unvaccinated children are healthier.</p><p>Sibling comparisons sound powerful because siblings share many family-level characteristics.</p><p>But this is not a controlled trial.</p><p>&#8220;Healthier&#8221; is undefined.</p><p>It could mean:</p><ul><li><p>fewer infections,</p></li><li><p>fewer allergies,</p></li><li><p>less asthma,</p></li><li><p>fewer doctor visits,</p></li><li><p>better behavior,</p></li><li><p>no autism,</p></li><li><p>better school performance,</p></li><li><p>or simply a parent&#8217;s overall impression.</p></li></ul><p>The parent knows which child was vaccinated.</p><p>And vaccination decisions inside families are often influenced by what happened to earlier children.</p><p>If parents perceive health problems in an older vaccinated child and then stop vaccinating younger siblings, the older child&#8217;s outcome helped determine the younger child&#8217;s exposure.</p><p>That creates a built-in directionality. Birth order is also tangled with vaccination status.</p><p>The younger child differs in age, birth year, parental experience, healthcare choices, diagnostic awareness, and potentially many other things.</p><p>Sibling comparisons can be scientifically useful. This particular question does not turn siblings into randomized controls.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211557414?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2D_k!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d41ce4c-6638-4c45-81ce-17cb53484182_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>What If Kirsch Has Found Something Real?</h1></div><p>What is the strongest case for Kirsch?</p><blockquote><p>The association is large.</p></blockquote><p>According to Kirsch&#8217;s reported Weinstein subset, the same ordering appeared through a second recruitment stream.</p><p>In both:</p><p><strong>unvaccinated &lt; partially vaccinated &lt; fully vaccinated.</strong></p><p>If a properly sampled and independently verified study reproduced anything remotely close to an RR of 13, 25 or 30, that would be extraordinarily important.</p><p>It should be investigated.</p><p>Parents&#8217; reports of abrupt developmental loss also should not be dismissed simply because they conflict with expectations. Parents are often the first people to notice loss of speech, eye contact, motor ability or social interaction.</p><p>It is also reasonable to ask whether a narrowly defined regression phenotype could behave differently from broad ASD diagnoses studied in previous epidemiology.</p><p>And Weinstein&#8217;s result does weaken the weakest audience criticism.</p><p>We can no longer adequately answer this with:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Those are just Steve Kirsch&#8217;s followers.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>But that does not tell us what generated the association.</p><p>The possibilities still include:</p><ul><li><p>a real biological effect,</p></li><li><p>differential participation,</p></li><li><p>different recognition or reporting of symptoms,</p></li><li><p>outcome misclassification,</p></li><li><p>age differences,</p></li><li><p>vaccination decisions changing after developmental problems,</p></li><li><p>family clustering,</p></li><li><p>duplicate reporting,</p></li><li><p>unmeasured confounding,</p></li><li><p>or several of these operating simultaneously.</p></li></ul><p>The observed association is the thing that needs explaining.</p><p>It is not, by itself, the explanation.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kirsch Sent Me a Peer-Reviewed Critique of the Existing Evidence</h2><p>After I raised concerns about the survey, Kirsch sent me Elizabeth Clarkson&#8217;s 2026 paper, <strong><a href="https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/the-obfuscation-of-the-confounded-relationship-between-vaccines-and-autism/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">The Obfuscation of the Confounded Relationship between Vaccines and Autism</a></strong>, published in <em>Science, Public Health Policy and the Law</em>. </p><p>The paper argues that several frequently cited vaccine-autism studies contain analytical or reporting choices that obscure relationships present in the underlying data.</p><p>Clarkson is right about one important principle: <em>a study that fails to detect harm does not automatically prove that every conceivable harm is absent.</em> Some vaccine studies answer narrower questions than the public discussion sometimes implies.</p><p>But her argument does <strong>not </strong>solve Kirsch&#8217;s survey problem.</p><p>Her most dramatic example is the 2019 Hviid MMR study. Clarkson takes the final numbers of autism diagnoses among children ultimately classified as MMR vaccinated or unvaccinated, places them into a simple 2&#215;2 comparison, and finds substantially more autism among the unvaccinated group. She argues that this raw association deserved much more attention.</p><p>The problem is that Hviid&#8217;s actual study did not analyze vaccination as a fixed end-of-study label. MMR status was treated as a <strong>time-varying exposure</strong>, with children contributing person-time according to their vaccination status during follow-up. The analysis also adjusted for age, birth year, sex, other childhood vaccinations, sibling autism history, and other autism risk factors.</p><p>Clarkson&#8217;s crude 2&#215;2 comparison discards that timing and adjustment. In other words, she <strong>removes information</strong> from the Hviid analysis to reveal a stronger raw association.</p><p><strong>Kirsch&#8217;s survey begins with much of that information missing.</strong></p><p>It does not record the child&#8217;s vaccination dates, age at regression, vaccination status when regression began, or the other child-level variables needed to reconstruct the temporal relationship.</p><p>That does not make Kirsch&#8217;s survey stronger. It is exactly why its enormous raw risk ratio cannot yet be interpreted causally.</p><p>Clarkson also makes some legitimate narrower criticisms. A study of cumulative vaccine antigens does not automatically answer every question about every vaccine ingredient or every aspect of the complete childhood schedule. She is also right to advocate preregistered analysis plans, transparency, and access to data for legitimate independent reanalysis.</p><p>But the paper itself repeatedly acknowledges that the relationships it identifies may not be causal.</p><p>So Clarkson gives us a useful reminder not to overstate what negative studies prove. She does <strong>not</strong> provide the missing evidence that turns Kirsch&#8217;s self-selected survey association into a causal estimate.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What Would Change This Conclusion?</h2><p>This is where Kirsch&#8217;s challenge can become genuinely useful.</p><ul><li><p>Run a stronger study.</p></li><li><p>Preregister the protocol.</p></li><li><p>Recruit families independently of their vaccination beliefs and developmental outcomes.</p></li><li><p>Collect child-level ages and birth years.</p></li><li><p>Verify vaccination records.</p></li><li><p>Record vaccine type and date.</p></li><li><p>Verify ASD diagnoses and developmental regression.</p></li><li><p>Establish exactly when regression occurred.</p></li><li><p>Determine vaccination status <strong>before</strong> the regression.</p></li><li><p>Measure plausible alternative explanations.</p></li><li><p>Account statistically for siblings.</p></li><li><p>Prevent duplicate children from appearing in the dataset.</p></li></ul><p>Use independent analysts.</p><p>Publish the protocol, exclusions, missing data, code, and deidentified results.</p><p>Then replicate it.</p><p>If anything approaching a 10-fold, 20-fold or 25-fold excess survives that process, the selection-bias explanation becomes much harder to sustain.</p><p>With an effect this large, rigorous methodology should be Kirsch&#8217;s strongest ally.</p><div><hr></div><h2>So Should a Pro-Vaccine Group Run the Survey?</h2><p>Yes. But not because refusing to run it proves anything.</p><p>Running the same questionnaire through a strongly pro-vaccine audience would still be informative. If that group also produced a large:</p><p><strong>unvaccinated &lt; partially vaccinated &lt; fully vaccinated</strong></p><p>pattern, it would weaken the argument that vaccine-skeptical beliefs alone explain the result.</p><p>Interestingly, Kirsch&#8217;s own AI transcript acknowledged that point. It said that finding a large association in an audience with very different prior beliefs would weaken the <strong>specific audience-bias explanation</strong>, while still leaving self-selection, retrospective reporting, and the other survey problems unresolved.</p><p><strong>That is fair.</strong></p><p>But the better next step is not simply to move the same opt-in survey from one ideological audience to another.</p><ul><li><p>Make the recruitment as neutral as possible.</p></li><li><p>Verify the children.</p></li><li><p>Verify the vaccination histories.</p></li><li><p>Verify the developmental outcomes.</p></li><li><p>Record the dates.</p></li></ul><p>Then see what is left.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Bret Weinstein&#8217;s recruitment stream is new information. It matters.</p><p>According to the numbers Kirsch supplied to his AI analysis, respondents attributed to Weinstein again reported substantially more SORA among vaccinated children than among completely unvaccinated children.</p><p>That deserves investigation.</p><p>It also makes one simplistic criticism less convincing:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Only Kirsch&#8217;s subscribers could produce this result.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>But Kirsch wants that concession to do far more work than it can.</p><p>The survey still does not:</p><ul><li><p>diagnose autism,</p></li><li><p>measure actual vaccine dose,</p></li><li><p>establish vaccine timing,</p></li><li><p>establish regression timing,</p></li><li><p>establish that vaccination preceded regression,</p></li><li><p>record child-level age,</p></li><li><p>control self-selection,</p></li><li><p>provide a probability sample,</p></li><li><p>adequately account for sibling clustering,</p></li><li><p>prevent duplicate children,</p></li><li><p>or distinguish a biological effect from the processes that produced the respondent sample.</p></li></ul><p>And his AI analysis repeatedly changes explanations in ways that preserve the preferred conclusion.</p><p>No dose response becomes a threshold effect.</p><p>A later dose response becomes causal evidence.</p><p>Non-overlapping confidence intervals become replication.</p><p>Overlapping confidence intervals become replication.</p><p>Potential future verification becomes &#8220;clinical registry data.&#8221;</p><p>That should make anyone interested in the truth uncomfortable, regardless of what they believe about vaccines.</p><p>The defensible conclusion is narrower:</p><p><strong>Kirsch reports a striking association that appeared in two social-media recruitment streams. That makes the signal worth testing. It does not establish that vaccination caused regressive autism.</strong></p><p>That is not dismissing the data. It is refusing to confuse an observation with its cause.</p><p>The question is not whether the graph is dramatic. It clearly is. The question is whether the study can tell us what caused the pattern.</p><p>A large signal does not repair a weak design. It makes a strong design more urgent.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If you&#8217;d rather examine the evidence than simply accept the conclusion, subscribe to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>. And if you value the work, consider becoming a paid subscriber. Your support helps keep the research, fact-checking, and writing going.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg" width="800" height="52" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:52,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:13542,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211557414?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ziki!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e8777aa-3fdc-4b0a-a286-efa4650c842c_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><div><hr></div><h2>Sources and Further Reading</h2><h3>Earlier in This Series</h3><p><strong><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/the-anonymous-autism-clinic-that?utm_source=chatgpt.com">The Anonymous Autism Clinic That &#8220;Proved&#8221; Vaccines Cause Autism</a></strong><br>Our examination of Kirsch&#8217;s earlier autism-clinic claim and why a temporal cluster without an adequate comparison period cannot establish causation.</p><p><strong><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/kcors-causal-contradiction?utm_source=chatgpt.com">KCOR&#8217;s Causal Contradiction</a></strong><br>Our examination of the difference between detecting a statistical signal and identifying its cause.</p><h3>Primary Material</h3><p><strong>Steve Kirsch, &#8220;<a href="https://kirschsubstack.com/p/the-autism-survey-that-they-will">The autism survey that &#8216;they&#8217; will never do</a>,&#8221; August 16, 2026.</strong><br>Kirsch&#8217;s article presenting Weinstein&#8217;s circulation of the survey as replication.<br><br><strong><a href="https://alter.systems/p/94700312-56c9-461d-8e18-691ea5878df9?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Kirsch AI Analysis Transcript: &#8220;RORA Risk Calculation&#8221;</a></strong><br>The AI conversation underlying Kirsch&#8217;s analysis. It contains the Weinstein figures, risk-ratio and confidence-interval calculations, changing interpretations of dose response, discussion of selection bias, and statements about whether the responses were &#8220;validated.&#8221;</p><h2>Survey Methodology</h2><p><strong><a href="https://academic.oup.com/poq/article/81/S1/250/3749176">Mercer AW, Kreuter F, Keeter S, Stuart EA. &#8220;Theory and Practice in Nonprobability Surveys: Parallels between Causal Inference and Survey Inference.&#8221;</a></strong> <em>Public Opinion Quarterly</em>. 2017;81(S1):250&#8211;271.<br>Explains why self-selection in nonprobability samples can bias population estimates and why valid inference depends on assumptions about how respondents enter the sample. DOI: 10.1093/poq/nfw060.</p><p><strong><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/poi3.238">Lehdonvirta V, Oksanen A, R&#228;s&#228;nen P, Blank G. &#8220;Social Media, Web, and Panel Surveys: Using Non-Probability Samples in Social and Policy Research.&#8221;</a></strong> <em>Policy &amp; Internet</em>. 2021;13(1):134&#8211;155.<br>Examines nonprobability web and social-media recruitment and identifies topical self-selection as an important source of distortion. The article was first published online in 2020. DOI: 10.1002/poi3.238.</p><p><strong><a href="https://aapor.org/standards-and-ethics/best-practices/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">American Association for Public Opinion Research. Best Practices for Survey Research.</a></strong><br>AAPOR guidance on probability and nonprobability sampling, questionnaire design, recruitment, representativeness, transparency, and analysis. It specifically identifies opt-in panels and participants recruited through social media or personal networks as nonprobability samples requiring special analytical care.</p><p><strong><a href="https://aapor.org/standards-and-ethics/disclosure-standards/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">American Association for Public Opinion Research. Disclosure Standards.</a></strong><br>AAPOR standards for reporting recruitment methods, sampling frames, sample sizes, precision, weighting, and the assumptions used when reporting results from nonprobability samples.</p><h3>Critique Supplied by Kirsch</h3><p><strong><a href="https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/the-obfuscation-of-the-confounded-relationship-between-vaccines-and-autism/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Clarkson E. &#8220;The Obfuscation of the Confounded Relationship between Vaccines and Autism.&#8221;</a></strong> <em>Science, Public Health Policy and the Law</em>. January 28, 2026.<br>A peer-reviewed methodological critique of four studies frequently discussed in the vaccine-autism debate. Clarkson argues that analytical choices, confounding adjustments, and selective reporting may obscure relationships in the underlying data. We discuss the paper because Kirsch provided it in response to concerns about his survey, while distinguishing its legitimate criticisms from its inability to establish that Kirsch&#8217;s observed survey association is causal.</p><h3>Autism Diagnosis</h3><p><strong><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/autism/hcp/diagnosis/index.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Clinical Testing and Diagnosis for Autism Spectrum Disorder.</a></strong><br>Summarizes DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for ASD and explains that diagnosis generally relies on developmental history together with professional observation rather than a single checklist or parent-reported symptom combination.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[If vaccines are so safe, why has the government paid billions of dollars for vaccine injuries?]]></title><description><![CDATA[That number sounds alarming. Here's what the payout total does, and does not, prove.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/billions-paid-for-vaccine-injuries</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/billions-paid-for-vaccine-injuries</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 11:40:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xQBX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9f896ec-913d-4b38-ac92-277d5853fc63_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xQBX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9f896ec-913d-4b38-ac92-277d5853fc63_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xQBX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9f896ec-913d-4b38-ac92-277d5853fc63_1672x941.jpeg 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p> A familiar social media talking point is often presented as a challenge to vaccine safety:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Q. If vaccines are so safe, why has the government paid billions of dollars for vaccine injuries? </p></div><p>A. Because safe does not mean risk-free. Vaccines can cause serious injuries in rare cases, and those people deserve compensation.</p><p>It&#8217;s a simple question, but it is designed to get a reaction rather than an actual evidence-based discussion</p><p>The billions cited online are real, but they accumulated over nearly <strong>four decades</strong>. The program&#8217;s total outlays also include settlements in which neither HHS nor the court determined that a vaccine caused the alleged injury, attorneys&#8217; fees and costs, and administration injuries such as SIRVA.</p><p>Those payments show that injuries and compensation exist. By themselves, they do not tell us how frequently vaccines cause serious harm or establish that vaccines are broadly unsafe.</p><div><hr></div><h3>What the VICP actually does</h3><p>The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, or VICP, was created as a no-fault alternative to traditional lawsuits for certain routinely administered vaccines.</p><p>Some claims involve injuries listed on the Vaccine Injury Table. When the injury and its timing meet all the table&#8217;s requirements, causation is legally presumed unless the government shows that an unrelated factor more likely caused it.</p><p>For injuries that do not qualify for that presumption, petitioners generally must show that the vaccine more likely than not caused or significantly aggravated the injury.</p><p>Then there are settlements.</p><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data">HRSA reports</a> that approximately 60% of VICP compensation results from negotiated settlements. In those cases, HHS has not concluded that the vaccine caused the alleged injury, and the court does not make a finding of causation.</p><p>Why settle without deciding causation? HRSA lists several reasons: reducing the risk of continuing to trial, limiting the time and expense of litigation, and resolving the case more quickly.</p><p>A compensated case may therefore represent a government concession, a court decision, a legal presumption under the Vaccine Injury Table, or a settlement. Those are not the same thing.</p><div><hr></div><h3>What is included in the billions?</h3><p>As of July 1, 2026, <a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vicp/vicp-stats-07-01-26.pdf">HRSA reported</a> approximately $5.66 billion in total VICP outlays since the program began.</p><p>About $5.01 billion of that went to petitioners. The rest consisted of attorneys&#8217; fees and costs, including some legal fees paid in cases that were ultimately dismissed.</p><p>So yes, billions have been paid to petitioners. That part of the claim is true. But the larger total sometimes presented online also includes the cost of administering and litigating claims, and many compensated cases were settled without a finding that the vaccine caused the injury.</p><div><hr></div><h3>A large share involved shoulder injuries</h3><p>Another part of the total deserves attention. Many recent VICP petitions have involved shoulder injury related to vaccine administration, or SIRVA.</p><p>SIRVA is generally caused by how or where the injection is given, not by the vaccine&#8217;s ingredients. It can occur when the needle is placed too high or enters tissue around the shoulder joint, causing pain, inflammation, and reduced movement.</p><p>HHS reported 3,057 SIRVA petitions filed from fiscal year 2010 through part of fiscal year 2020. During fiscal years 2017 through 2019, SIRVA accounted for 1,987 petitions, or 52.6% of all VICP petitions filed. Approximately $119.2 million was paid to SIRVA petitioners from fiscal year 2016 through fiscal year 2019.</p><p>SIRVA remained a major part of the program after that. HRSA reported that more than 63% of petitions filed during fiscal years 2021 and 2022 alleged SIRVA.</p><p>HRSA&#8217;s current public report does not break all compensated awards down by injury, so an exact cumulative SIRVA total is unavailable. Still, the available figures show that a substantial share of recent VICP claims involved injuries caused by vaccine administration rather than reactions to the vaccine itself.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Now add the missing denominator</h3><p>The same HRSA report lists 5.65 billion doses of VICP-covered vaccines distributed in the United States from 2006 through 2024.</p><p>During that period, 14,835 petitions were adjudicated, and 10,933 were compensated.</p><p>HRSA summarizes this as approximately one compensated individual for every one million doses distributed. Dividing the figures in its own table produces about 1.9 compensated petitions per million doses, which is closer to two.</p><p>Either way, this is a compensation rate, not an injury rate.</p><p>The denominator consists of doses distributed, not confirmed doses administered. The numerator includes settlements in which causation was not established. It also reflects the rules, deadlines, and evidentiary requirements of the program.</p><p>The figures provide useful context. They do not measure the actual incidence of vaccine injury.</p><div><hr></div><h3>COVID vaccine claims use a different program</h3><p>COVID vaccine claims are not handled by the VICP. They go through the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, or CICP.</p><p>As of July 1, 2026, <a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-data/table-4">HRSA listed 92 compensated CICP claims</a> covering fiscal years 2010 through 2026. Of those, 62 involved COVID-19 vaccines. Total compensation across all 92 claims was $13,618,257.12.</p><p>The covered injuries for COVID vaccine claims included myocarditis, myopericarditis, Guillain-Barr&#233; syndrome, anaphylaxis, and thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome.</p><p>Those awards show that serious vaccine reactions are recognized and compensated when claims meet the program&#8217;s requirements. They do not tell us how often those reactions occur, and they do not establish that every reported health problem following vaccination was caused by the vaccine.</p><p>The low number of awards should not be treated as a complete safety statistic either. At the time of HRSA&#8217;s July 2026 update, <a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-data">thousands of COVID-related CICP claims remained pending or under review</a>.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Who funds these payments?</h3><p>The VICP is financed through the Vaccine Injury Compensation Trust Fund rather than ordinary general appropriations.</p><p>The fund receives revenue from a federal excise tax on covered vaccines. The tax is 75 cents for each taxable vaccine component in a dose. For example, MMR is taxed at $2.25 because it contains three taxable vaccine components.</p><p>The CICP works differently. It is funded through congressional appropriations.</p><p>This does not make the compensation unimportant or mean the money somehow does not count. It explains how the two programs are funded and why their payment systems are different.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210898281?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDA3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a8c59b2-6c65-43b6-9dd8-6c07ae224914_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Are we leaning too far in the other direction by emphasizing settlements and billions of doses?</p><p>That is worth asking.</p><p>A settlement does not prove that a vaccine caused an injury, but it does not prove that it did not. Some people who believe they were injured may never file a claim. Others may miss a deadline, fail to meet the program&#8217;s severity requirements, lack the records needed to prove their case, or remain stuck in a backlog.</p><p>&#8220;Doses distributed&#8221; is not the same as doses administered. One person may receive many doses. And compensation data were created to resolve legal claims, not to track every medical outcome after vaccination.</p><p>The same caution applies to the CICP. A small number of completed payments cannot define the true injury rate while thousands of claims remain unresolved.</p><p>We should not use the $5.66 billion total to claim that vaccine injuries are widespread. But we should not use the compensation rate to claim that the actual injury rate is one or two per million either.</p><p>The program&#8217;s numbers tell us how claims were handled. They do not replace vaccine-safety surveillance or epidemiological research.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Ask the question the dollar amount cannot answer</h3><p>Has anyone ever suffered a serious vaccine injury?</p><p>Yes.</p><p>But that is only the beginning of a safety discussion. For any particular vaccine and injury, we need to know how often the condition occurs without vaccination, how much vaccination changes that risk, and how the risk compares with the disease being prevented.</p><p>A cumulative payout total cannot answer those questions.</p><p>Vaccine injuries should not be dismissed. Neither should compensation figures be stripped of their legal and statistical context and presented as proof of widespread harm.</p><p>The number is real. </p><p>The conclusion attached to it may not be.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png" width="100" height="100" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:256,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:100,&quot;bytes&quot;:47707,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210898281?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rxQZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79459831-bf20-4d06-802d-86362860effc_256x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Support Independent, Evidence-Based Analysis</h3><p>If you value careful fact-checking that questions the claim, the counterclaim, and its own conclusions, consider subscribing to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>.</p><p>Free subscribers receive new articles as they are published. 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><h3>Resources</h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/about">HRSA: About the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program</a><br>Explains the VICP&#8217;s purpose, no-fault structure, settlements, and funding through the vaccine excise tax.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data">HRSA: Vaccine Injury Compensation Data</a><br>Provides VICP claim and compensation statistics and explains that approximately 60% of compensation results from negotiated settlements in which HHS did not conclude that the vaccine caused the alleged injury.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vicp/vicp-stats-01-01-26.pdf">HRSA: VICP Data and Statistics, January 2026</a><br>Reports more than 5 billion covered vaccine doses distributed from 2006 through 2023 and approximately one compensated individual per million doses distributed.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vicp/vaccine-injury-table-01-03-2022.pdf">HRSA: Vaccine Injury Table</a><br>Lists covered vaccines, qualifying injuries, and the time periods required for a legal presumption of causation.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-vicp">HRSA: CICP and VICP Comparison</a><br>Compares the two programs, including eligibility, filing deadlines, available benefits, and funding.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-data">HRSA: Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program Data</a><br>Provides current CICP claim totals, decisions, denials, and compensation data.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-data/table-4">HRSA: CICP Claims Compensated, Fiscal Years 2010&#8211;2026</a><br>Lists each compensated CICP claim, the covered countermeasure, the recognized injury, and the amount paid. As of July 1, 2026, the table listed 92 payments totaling $13,618,257.12.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.irs.gov/publications/p510">IRS Publication 510: Excise Taxes</a><br>Explains the 75-cent tax per dose of each taxable vaccine and how the tax applies to combination vaccines.</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Does a Baby Think Before It Can Talk?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Long before babies can form a sentence, they are learning patterns, making predictions, reading the room, and discovering that a foam ball worn as a nose is apparently comedy gold.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/what-does-a-baby-think</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/what-does-a-baby-think</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 11:45:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bw9S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa8d74209-ba98-4177-bb2d-a2979922b9f2_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bw9S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa8d74209-ba98-4177-bb2d-a2979922b9f2_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bw9S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa8d74209-ba98-4177-bb2d-a2979922b9f2_1672x941.jpeg 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Either the baby is a tiny philosopher silently contemplating existence, or there is not much happening until words arrive and turn on the lights.</p><p>The evidence supports neither.</p><p>The honest answer is that we cannot know what a baby&#8217;s private experience feels like. Babies cannot describe it, and no brain scan prints out a thought bubble. What researchers can do is observe what infants remember, what surprises them, what they anticipate, where they look, and how their behavior changes with experience.</p><p>That evidence points to a busy mind. Before babies can talk, they can learn patterns, remember events, pursue goals, form expectations about objects and people, understand some words, and notice when an adult is behaving in a delightfully ridiculous way.</p><p>Their thoughts may not arrive as sentences. That does not mean their minds are empty.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Thinking is older than talking</h2><p>Adults often confuse thought with inner speech because so much of our own thinking sounds verbal. We rehearse conversations, argue with ourselves in the shower, and come up with the perfect comeback about three hours too late.</p><p>But even adult thought is not entirely made of words. We recognize a familiar face before naming the person. We picture a route, feel that something is off, predict where a moving object will land, or reach to catch a falling glass before putting any of it into words.</p><p>Babies think in many of these nonverbal ways too. Their experience is likely built from perception, emotion, bodily sensation, memory, recognition, anticipation, and action. A hungry baby does not need the sentence, &#8220;I would like to discuss the disappointing pace of today&#8217;s milk service.&#8221; The discomfort, the expectation of relief, and the effort to summon a caregiver are already meaningful.</p><p>We should also be careful with the phrase &#8220;before language.&#8221; Babies often understand some words long before they can say them. In one study, researchers found that infants between 6 and 9 months old looked toward the correct picture after hearing familiar words for foods and body parts.</p><p>They could not say &#8220;banana,&#8221; but the word was not meaningless to them. Other experiments have found that 8 month olds can track patterns in streams of syllables, one of the abilities that may help them discover where words begin and end.</p><p>So the period before speech is not a silent waiting room. Language is already moving in, even if it has not unpacked all its boxes.</p><div><hr></div><h2>How do you interview someone who eats the questionnaire?</h2><p>Studying infant thought requires some ingenuity. Researchers cannot ask a 6-month-old whether an event violated the laws of physics. The baby is unlikely to answer, and may attempt to digest the consent form.</p><p>Instead, scientists use indirect measures. One common method is to show infants an event repeatedly until it becomes familiar, then change something. If babies look longer at the new or seemingly impossible event, researchers infer that it did not match what they expected.</p><p>In classic object-permanence experiments, young infants watched objects move behind screens. They looked longer when an object appeared to vanish, pass through a barrier, or emerge where it should not have been. Other studies found that by about 6 months, infants paid attention to the goal of a person&#8217;s reach, not merely to the path taken by the hand.</p><p>Learning can also be measured through action. In the mobile-conjugate reinforcement task, a ribbon connects an infant&#8217;s leg to a crib mobile. The baby kicks, the mobile moves, and before long the baby increases the kicking. Cause and effect has been discovered. The infant is now, briefly, chief executive officer of ceiling decorations.</p><p>None of these methods gives researchers a literal transcript of a baby&#8217;s thoughts. Longer looking can have more than one explanation, and scientists still debate how much knowledge particular experiments reveal. That limitation matters.</p><p>Evidence of an expectation is not proof that the baby holds an adult-like theory about it.</p><p>Still, the combined findings are difficult to square with the idea of a passive mind waiting for vocabulary to begin.</p><div><hr></div><h2>A baby&#8217;s world is full of predictions</h2><p>Much of early thought may be less like a narrated story and more like a continuous stream of predictions:</p><ul><li><p>This face usually appears when I hear that voice.</p></li><li><p>This object should still be behind the blanket.</p></li><li><p>When I kick, the mobile moves.</p></li><li><p>When I drop the spoon, someone picks it up.</p></li></ul><p>That last experiment is often repeated at home until the adult researcher withdraws funding.</p><p>Predictions give the world structure. A baby learns the rhythm of feeding, bathing, being lifted, hearing footsteps, and seeing a familiar person return. Each repetition creates an expectation. Expectations make surprise possible, and surprise is one of the raw materials of humor.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VNQ8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F979d996b-4ab2-4afa-8d65-b812447c1d66_1672x941.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VNQ8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F979d996b-4ab2-4afa-8d65-b812447c1d66_1672x941.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VNQ8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F979d996b-4ab2-4afa-8d65-b812447c1d66_1672x941.png 848w, 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The adult disappears, the baby briefly believes the adult no longer exists, and the returning face is astonishing.</p><p>That explanation is probably too simple. Research suggests that infants form some expectations about hidden objects quite early. Peekaboo also contains anticipation, timing, repetition, eye contact, a familiar partner, and a surprise that is safely resolved.</p><p>After a few rounds, the baby is not merely waiting to see whether you still exist. The baby knows the performance. The covered face is the setup. The pause creates tension. The return is the punch line.</p><p>Peekaboo may be the first sitcom. It has a predictable plot, a beloved recurring character, and the same joke can run for twelve seasons without anyone complaining that the writers have run out of ideas.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Funny begins with something being safely wrong</h2><p>Much humor depends on a broken expectation that does not feel dangerous. A shoe belongs on a foot. A cup is for drinking. A person&#8217;s face does not normally make that noise. Once a child knows the ordinary pattern, violating it can become funny.</p><p>Researchers studying infant humor have used exactly this kind of absurdity. In one series of experiments, an adult first handled a red foam ball normally, then wore it as a nose while making a silly sound. Babies reacted differently to the ordinary and absurd versions.</p><p>In a study following infants from 5 to 7 months, parents alternated between laughing at an absurd event and watching it with a neutral expression. The babies sometimes smiled at the absurdity even without parental laughter, which suggests that they were not simply copying the adult. But the parents&#8217; laughter affected how quickly, how often, or how long the babies smiled, with the influence becoming clearer by 7 months.</p><p>The adult&#8217;s reaction provides useful information: Yes, this is strange. No, the family has not been placed in immediate danger by the foam nose. We are doing this on purpose, and it is safe to enjoy.</p><p>That is an early version of &#8220;reading the room,&#8221; a skill some adults continue developing for several decades.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Laughter is social information</h2><p>A baby&#8217;s laughter does more than announce pleasure. It helps coordinate attention and emotion between people. The baby looks at the parent, the parent laughs, the baby laughs harder, and both know they are sharing the same moment.</p><p>Infants also seem sensitive to what other people&#8217;s laughter tells them. In two experiments, 5-month-olds distinguished between co-laughter shared by friends and co-laughter shared by strangers. They were not following a clever anecdote. They were picking up clues about affiliation from the sound of people laughing together.</p><p>This helps explain why an absurd face produced by a familiar adult may be hilarious while the same face in a frightening setting may not be. Surprise alone is not enough. Context tells the baby whether the unexpected event is playful, confusing, or threatening.</p><p>Humor, even at this early stage, is a group project.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Then the baby becomes the comedian</h2><p>At some point, babies stop being only the audience.</p><p>Observational research describes infants in the second half of their first year repeating odd faces, noises, or actions that previously made someone laugh. They may watch the adult&#8217;s reaction, repeat the performance, or tease by offering an object and pulling it away just as someone reaches for it.</p><p>The baby has discovered audience feedback.</p><p>This does not mean a 9-month-old is developing a tight five minutes for the local comedy club. It does suggest an impressive combination of memory, social awareness, timing, and intention. The infant remembers what produced laughter, recognizes another person as an audience, and tries the act again.</p><p>In other words, babies may begin doing crowd work before they can say &#8220;crowd.&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><h2>Do babies think in pictures?</h2><p>&#8220;Pictures instead of words&#8221; sounds plausible, but it is probably too neat. A baby&#8217;s mind is not necessarily a silent movie playing behind the eyes. Thought can include sound patterns, touch, movement, emotion, spatial relationships, familiarity, and expectations that may not resemble either a picture or a sentence.</p><p>We should also be careful not to project a fully formed adult mind onto an infant. A baby who expects a hidden toy to remain in place does not necessarily understand object permanence as an abstract principle. A baby who laughs at a sock on someone&#8217;s head has not written a theory of incongruity.</p><p>The safest conclusion is narrower and more interesting. Babies build mental representations of the world before they can explain any of them. They learn what usually happens, notice when something changes, and use other people&#8217;s reactions to help interpret the change.</p><p>That is enough to support memory, expectation, recognition, goal-directed behavior, and the earliest forms of humor.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The thought inside the laugh</h2><p>We may never know exactly what it feels like to inhabit a mind before speech. The best we can do is design careful experiments and watch where thought leaks out through gaze, movement, anticipation, smiles, and laughter.</p><p>When a baby laughs at a spoon balanced on your head, the response may contain more understanding than it appears to. Spoons have a usual place. Heads have a usual lack of spoons.</p><p>You broke the pattern, made it clear that everyone was safe, and invited the baby to share the joke.</p><p>That little laugh tells us something important: the baby already knows enough about how the world normally works to enjoy watching it go slightly wrong.</p><p>And somewhere in the performance, the baby learns one more rule about adults. </p><p>If you laugh once, they will do the same ridiculous thing at least fourteen more times.</p><p>As if we need even more reasons to love them.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If you enjoyed this lighter visit to the science of how minds work, subscribe to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>. We usually spend more time examining dubious claims than explaining why a foam ball on someone&#8217;s nose can bring down the house. Both are really questions about the same thing: How do we know what we think we know?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg" width="800" height="52" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:52,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:13542,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/211090465?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8tK-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc61c171a-eb83-46d0-bd54-e6fe1d1ffbcb_800x52.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><h2>Resources</h2><ul><li><p>Elika Bergelson and Daniel Swingley, <a href="https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1113380109">&#8220;At 6&#8211;9 months, human infants know the meanings of many common nouns&#8221;</a>, <em>Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences</em>, 2012.</p></li><li><p>Jenny R. Saffran, Richard N. Aslin, and Elissa L. Newport, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8943209/">&#8220;Statistical learning by 8-month-old infants&#8221;</a>, <em>Science</em>, 1996.</p></li><li><p>Ren&#233;e Baillargeon and Julie DeVos, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1786712/">&#8220;Object permanence in young infants: Further evidence&#8221;</a>, <em>Child Development</em>, 1991.</p></li><li><p>Emily C. Merz and colleagues, <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5716629/">&#8220;The mobile conjugate reinforcement paradigm in a lab setting&#8221;</a>, <em>Developmental Psychobiology</em>, 2017.</p></li><li><p>Gina C. Mireault and colleagues, <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4424150/">&#8220;Laughing Matters: Infant Humor in the Context of Parental Affect&#8221;</a>, <em>Journal of Experimental Child Psychology</em>, 2015.</p></li><li><p>Athena Vouloumanos and Gregory A. Bryant, <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6411856/">&#8220;Five-month-old infants detect affiliation in colaughter&#8221;</a>, <em>Scientific Reports</em>, 2019.</p></li><li><p>Vasudevi Reddy and Gina Mireault, <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6171105/">&#8220;Teasing and clowning in infancy&#8221;</a>, <em>Current Biology</em>, 2015.</p><p></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The 75% mRNA Flu Vaccine Claim: What That Number Really Means]]></title><description><![CDATA[Moderna&#8217;s new flu shot caused considerably more short-term reactions than conventional vaccines. That is worth knowing. It is not the same as saying three out of four people were seriously harmed.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-75-mrna-flu-vaccine-claim-what</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-75-mrna-flu-vaccine-claim-what</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 22:11:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rin!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F086923ed-f31c-415f-ba0e-8c4eb24b3861_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rin!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F086923ed-f31c-415f-ba0e-8c4eb24b3861_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rin!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F086923ed-f31c-415f-ba0e-8c4eb24b3861_1672x941.jpeg 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>A Mind Less Wasted | Fact Check | August 12, 2026</strong></p><div><hr></div><p>If someone tells you that 75% of the people who received a new vaccine had an adverse reaction, your first instinct probably isn&#8217;t to ask what kind. It sounds awful on its face.</p><p>That number is now everywhere. Nicolas Hulscher used it in the headline of an article about Moderna&#8217;s new mRNA flu vaccine. Peter McCullough shared the same figure and said the data were consistent with mRNA being more dangerous. Jimmy Dore interviewed oncologist Angus Dalgleish under the title, &#8220;FDA Approves Dangerous New mRNA Flu Vaccines.&#8221; Mary Talley Bowden has raised questions about the price, the FDA committee that reviewed it, and what the arrival of an mRNA flu shot will do to public confidence.</p><p>The 75% figure isn&#8217;t made up. It appears in the FDA documents.</p><p>But a number can be accurate while the story built around it is not.</p><p>I went through the prescribing information, the FDA clinical review, the advisory committee briefing, and the posts and broadcasts making the rounds. What I found wasn&#8217;t a spotless vaccine being smeared by dishonest critics. The mRNA product clearly caused more short-term reactions than the conventional vaccines used for comparison. Some of those reactions were severe enough to interrupt normal activity. The FDA also identified uncertainties that will require years of follow-up.</p><p>What I did not find was evidence that 75% of recipients were seriously injured, or that the trials established that <strong>MFLUSIVA </strong>is broadly dangerous.</p><p>The real picture sits between Moderna&#8217;s sales pitch and the most alarming social media posts. It deserves to be examined without cleaning up the inconvenient parts for either side.</p><div><hr></div><h2>First, what did the FDA approve?</h2><p>On August 5, 2026, the FDA approved MFLUSIVA, the first mRNA influenza vaccine licensed in the United States. It is approved for adults 50 and older. This was one new product, not a conversion of the entire flu vaccine supply to mRNA.</p><p>There is an important wrinkle in the approval that most short accounts leave out.</p><p>For people 50 through 64, MFLUSIVA received traditional approval. The main evidence came from a randomized trial of more than 40,000 people comparing it with a licensed standard-dose flu vaccine.</p><p>For adults 65 and older, the FDA used accelerated approval. In that age group, the decision relied heavily on antibody responses measured against a high-dose vaccine. Those immune measurements were treated as a surrogate reasonably likely to predict clinical benefit. Moderna still has to confirm that benefit.</p><p>The FDA&#8217;s vaccine advisory committee voted 9&#8211;0 that the benefits outweighed the known and potential risks in both age groups. A unanimous vote is meaningful, but it doesn&#8217;t erase the difference between traditional and accelerated approval. It also doesn&#8217;t settle every safety question.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Where the 75.3% figure came from</h2><p>The number comes from a study of adults 65 and older. An earlier quadrivalent version of Moderna&#8217;s mRNA flu vaccine was compared with Fluzone High-Dose. Participants recorded a list of expected symptoms every day for the first week.</p><p>At least one of those solicited reactions was reported by 75.3% of people in the mRNA group and 49.3% in the high-dose group.</p><p>A similar pattern appeared in the larger efficacy trial. There, 75.7% of mRNA recipients reported at least one solicited reaction, compared with 46.7% of people who received the standard-dose vaccine.</p><p>Here are the figures in one place:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png" width="832" height="345" 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adverse-reaction and serious-adverse-event rates for MFLUSIVA and conventional influenza vaccine comparators in two clinical trials." title="Comparison of adverse-reaction and serious-adverse-event rates for MFLUSIVA and conventional influenza vaccine comparators in two clinical trials." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU0w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff207ebbd-db46-42d3-8cea-5cefd0eb9b43_832x345.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Sources: <a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/194140/download?utm_source=chatgpt.com">FDA Clinical Review of MFLUSIVA</a> and <a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/193130/download?utm_source=chatgpt.com">FDA advisory committee briefing document</a>. These were separate trials involving different formulations, populations, and comparators.</figcaption></figure></div><p>What matters is what the category included. Participants were specifically asked about injection-site pain, redness, swelling, underarm tenderness, fatigue, headache, muscle pain, joint pain, chills, fever, and nausea or vomiting. A person with a sore arm was counted. So was someone who felt tired for a day. So was someone whose symptoms prevented normal activity.</p><p>The FDA reported that most reactions were mild or moderate. They generally appeared soon after vaccination and lasted about two days.</p><p>&#8220;Adverse reaction&#8221; is the FDA&#8217;s own term. Hulscher did not invent it. The problem comes when that technical label is presented to a general audience with no explanation of what was counted. Most people hear &#8220;75% adverse reactions&#8221; and picture medical injuries, not a checklist that includes temporary arm pain and fatigue.</p><p>That gap between the technical meaning and the ordinary meaning is doing most of the work in the viral headline.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The severe reactions were real</h2><p>McCullough and Hulscher also highlighted the Grade 3 systemic reactions. In the older-adult study, they occurred in 6.7% of mRNA recipients and 1.7% of high-dose vaccine recipients. That is about four times as frequent. In the main study, the comparison was 5.5% versus 0.9%, an even larger ratio.</p><p>Those numbers should not be waved away as nothing more than a sore arm.</p><p>Grade 3 generally meant that a symptom prevented normal daily activity. Someone might have been unable to work, exercise, shop, or handle the usual routine. Even if the problem passed in a day or two, that is relevant when choosing between vaccines.</p><p>It still isn&#8217;t the same as a hospitalization, permanent disability, life-threatening event, or death. Trials record those outcomes separately.</p><p>So the critics are right about a real disadvantage. The mRNA vaccine caused considerably more reactions, including more reactions that temporarily disrupted daily life. They go too far when they use those numbers as though they were counts of serious medical injuries.</p><p>The final FDA review also recorded two Grade 4 systemic reactions in the older-adult mRNA group. Both were high fevers, 104.9&#176;F and 105&#176;F. Neither participant sought medical attention, and no Grade 4 systemic reactions occurred in the high-dose comparator group.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Serious events and the death imbalance</h2><p>The main trial followed roughly 20,000 people in each group for a median of about six months. Serious adverse events occurred in 2.2% of MFLUSIVA recipients and 1.9% of standard-vaccine recipients. Medically attended events were reported by 12.3% and 12.0%. The differences were small, although the serious-event total was numerically higher with MFLUSIVA.</p><p>Across the four studies reviewed together by the FDA, serious events were reported in 3.1% of mRNA recipients and 2.9% of comparator recipients. There were 102 deaths in the mRNA groups and 97 in the comparator groups. Both round to 0.3%. During the first 28 days, the totals were 13 and 14.</p><p>The pooled review also found small imbalances in certain serious-event categories. Anemia was reported in 9 mRNA recipients versus 2 comparators, and urinary tract infection in 25 versus 12. Broader searches identified 14 versus 8 anemia cases and 38 versus 22 urinary infections. FDA reviewers found no temporal clustering, identified plausible alternative explanations, and concluded that the patterns were unlikely to be vaccine-related.</p><p>Those overall figures don&#8217;t show a large increase in serious harm or mortality. But the death analysis contains a detail that shouldn&#8217;t be buried.</p><p>The FDA found 29 deaths classified as unspecified, sudden, or sudden cardiac among mRNA recipients, compared with 12 among comparator recipients. Reviewers examined the timing, causes, and medical histories. Most deaths occurred months after vaccination. There was no clear cluster around a particular time, total mortality remained balanced, and many of the people who died had serious underlying conditions. The FDA considered a vaccine-related explanation unlikely.</p><p>That judgment is not the end of the matter. Many of the deaths were not followed by autopsies, and there was no systematic adjudication capable of fully resolving the difference. The FDA review says, in effect, that the pattern did not look causal, but the available records could not eliminate all uncertainty.</p><p>This is where both confident narratives become uncomfortable.</p><p>Someone arguing that the trials proved a deadly safety signal has to explain why overall deaths were almost identical, why deaths during the first month did not favor the comparator, and why no timing pattern emerged. Someone claiming there is nothing left to investigate has to explain the narrower 29-to-12 imbalance and the incomplete information surrounding those deaths.</p><p>The FDA required a large Phase 4 confirmatory efficacy trial for adults 65 and older. Moderna also committed to a separate postmarketing safety study that will evaluate deaths in a randomized population and monitor myocarditis, pericarditis, myopericarditis, and Guillain-Barr&#233; syndrome observationally. These are appropriate responses to uncertainty. They are neither an admission that MFLUSIVA caused the deaths nor proof that the concern is meaningless.</p><p>The myocarditis findings available at approval were more reassuring. No cases occurred in the mRNA group during the prespecified 42-day risk window, and adjudicated cases over the full follow-up period were balanced between groups. The trials were not large enough to rule out a very rare risk.</p><div><hr></div><h2>&#8220;26.6% more effective&#8221; needs context too</h2><p>The same care applied to the 75% safety claim should be applied to Moderna&#8217;s efficacy claim.</p><p>During the 2024&#8211;2025 flu season, laboratory-confirmed influenza-like illness occurred in 411 of 20,179 MFLUSIVA recipients and 557 of 20,124 standard-vaccine recipients. That works out to about 2.0% versus 2.8%.</p><p>The FDA reported a relative vaccine efficacy of 26.6% against the standard-dose comparator. In plain numbers, the absolute difference was about 0.73 percentage points. For every 1,000 people vaccinated under the trial conditions, MFLUSIVA prevented roughly seven additional protocol-defined cases compared with the standard-dose shot. About 137 people would need to receive MFLUSIVA instead of the comparator to prevent one additional case.</p><p>That is a genuine benefit. It is also more modest than &#8220;26.6% more effective&#8221; may sound when the underlying rates are left out.</p><p>An exploratory analysis found fewer cases requiring an emergency room, urgent care, or hospitalization. The study was not designed to establish a separate reduction in hospitalizations or deaths, so it did not demonstrate a survival benefit. McCullough is correct on that narrow point. But a trial that was not powered to prove a mortality benefit cannot tell us that no mortality benefit exists.</p><p>There are other limits. The trial covered one season, and flu vaccine performance changes as circulating strains change. The B/Victoria result was inconclusive because too few cases occurred. The studies also leave unanswered questions about frail older adults, some immunocompromised patients, and people receiving COVID-19, RSV, or pneumococcal vaccines at the same visit.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Was there really &#8220;no control group&#8221;?</h2><p>There was no saline placebo in the pivotal Phase 3 trials. There were, however, randomized control groups receiving licensed flu vaccines.</p><p>There was a control group, but it did not receive saline. Those participants received an approved flu vaccine. This allowed researchers to compare MFLUSIVA with vaccines already being used, so saying the trial had &#8220;no control group&#8221; is inaccurate. It also avoided withholding flu vaccination from older adults who face a meaningful risk from influenza. FDA and international guidance permit this type of active comparison.</p><p>That design does not answer every question. Because both groups received a vaccine, the trial shows which product caused more reactions. It cannot tell us how many reactions either vaccine caused beyond what might occur after a saline injection or during ordinary follow-up. A saline group could have helped answer that narrower question about absolute reactogenicity.</p><p>The more important comparator problem involved adults 65 and older. The main efficacy trial used a standard-dose vaccine even though high-dose, adjuvanted, and recombinant products are generally preferred for seniors.</p><p>This was not a complaint that appeared only after approval. The FDA initially refused to file Moderna&#8217;s application because the pivotal trial had not used what the agency considered the best available comparator for that age group.</p><p>Moderna responded by splitting the regulatory request. Ages 50 through 64 would be considered for traditional approval. Ages 65 and older would be considered through accelerated approval using antibody results from a separate comparison with Fluzone High-Dose.</p><p>That compromise addressed the FDA&#8217;s immediate objection, but it left patients without the clinical comparison many would reasonably want: Does MFLUSIVA prevent more actual illness than an enhanced senior vaccine, and is any added benefit worth the added reactions?</p><p>The FDA has required a postmarketing randomized study of about 800,000 adults 65 and older across two flu seasons, comparing MFLUSIVA with Fluzone High-Dose. The final report is scheduled for May 31, 2030.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Is it gene therapy, and was it tested for cancer?</h2><p>Dalgleish and McCullough describe mRNA vaccines as gene therapy or &#8220;genetic shots.&#8221; That language suggests the product alters a person&#8217;s genes. MFLUSIVA does not do that.</p><p>The mRNA provides temporary instructions in the cell&#8217;s cytoplasm. It does not need to enter the nucleus, where the DNA is stored, and it is not intended to add, remove, or edit human genes. Infectious-disease mRNA vaccines are not classified as gene therapy by major regulators. The <a href="https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory-overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/covid-19-medicines/covid-19-vaccines-key-facts">European Medicines Agency explains that distinction here</a>.</p><p>The prescribing information also says MFLUSIVA was not evaluated for carcinogenicity, genotoxicity, or effects on male fertility in animals. That line is already being used to suggest the product was released without meaningful safety testing or could cause cancer.</p><p>The wording is real. The implication does not follow from it.</p><p>Similar language appears in the labels of many vaccines that have been used for years. <a href="https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/biologicals/vaccine-standardization/trs_987_annex2.pdf">World Health Organization guidance</a> explains that genotoxicity studies are not normally required for vaccine adjuvants and carcinogenicity studies generally are not required. Regulators can request them when a platform, ingredient, distribution pattern, or toxicology finding gives them a specific reason to do so.</p><p>FDA reviewers did examine nonclinical pharmacology and toxicology and reported no clinically relevant problem that prevented approval. It would therefore be inaccurate to say that MFLUSIVA had no preclinical safety testing.</p><p>It would also be too strong to claim that a trial lasting several months settles every possible long-term question. It doesn&#8217;t. The fair description is that the usual vaccine development program did not include lifetime cancer studies, not that the vaccine was shown to cause cancer or that regulators forgot to consider toxicology.</p><div><hr></div><h2>How the most prominent claims hold up</h2><p><strong>Nicolas Hulscher:</strong> His 75.3% figure and fourfold Grade 3 comparison are taken from the FDA&#8217;s tables. The numbers are correct. The article gives readers too little help understanding that &#8220;any solicited adverse reaction&#8221; was dominated by expected short-term symptoms, not serious injuries.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Peter McCullough:</strong> MFLUSIVA was more reactogenic, and the trial did not demonstrate a survival benefit. Those points are fair. Describing the data as proof that mRNA is more dangerous goes beyond the serious-event and mortality results. Saying the vaccine lacked preclinical safety data is also too broad.</p></li><li><p><strong>Jimmy Dore:</strong> The title &#8220;FDA Approves Dangerous New mRNA Flu Vaccines&#8221; declares the verdict before the evidence is discussed. The FDA approved one mRNA flu vaccine, not a new formulation for every flu shot. The program raised worthwhile questions, but the word &#8220;dangerous&#8221; is not established by the comparative trial results.</p></li><li><p><strong>Angus Dalgleish:</strong> His argument is much wider than MFLUSIVA. He says there is no need for a specific flu vaccine and that mRNA products for infectious disease have unacceptable risks. The MFLUSIVA trial cannot settle every debate about the mRNA platform, but it did show fewer laboratory-confirmed flu cases than the standard-dose comparator. Claims carried over from COVID-19 controversies cannot replace product-specific evidence.</p></li><li><p><strong>Mary Talley Bowden:</strong> Her comments combine opinions about public trust and FDA governance with more testable claims about price and vaccine choice. Conventional flu vaccines remain available. MFLUSIVA has not turned ordinary flu shots into mRNA shots. It is more expensive than many standard-dose products, but her comparison between $140.75 and $26.95 per dose uses one of the cheapest conventional products as the baseline. For 2026&#8211;2027, <a href="https://www.cms.gov/medicare/payment/part-b-drugs/vaccine-pricing">Medicare listed</a> payment allowances of about $171.21 for MFLUSIVA and $122.52 for the adjuvanted Fluad vaccine. Wholesale price, reimbursement, acquisition cost, and profit are not the same thing.</p></li></ul><p>None of this tells us whether these commentators are right or wrong about every other issue. It tells us how their claims about this vaccine compare with the evidence currently available.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Are conventional flu shots being replaced?</h2><p>No. MFLUSIVA adds another option for people 50 and older. It does not replace egg-based, cell-based, recombinant, high-dose, adjuvanted, or nasal vaccines. The <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/iis/code-sets/fall-season-respiratory-codes.html">CDC&#8217;s product list</a> continues to include those alternatives.</p><p>FDA approval also does not require a hospital, employer, pharmacy, physician, or patient to choose the mRNA product. Decisions about recommendations, purchasing, mandates, and insurance coverage happen through separate processes.</p><p>MFLUSIVA does appear to carry a price premium over many existing options. Whether the extra cost and added short-term reactions are worthwhile will depend on how its efficacy compares over several seasons, particularly against the enhanced vaccines already used in older adults.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210954996?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5JSt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8a50f6e-d7c4-49b3-9e54-a1d42958e0ad_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h6><em>Checkpoint is where I stop defending the article&#8217;s conclusion and make the strongest reasonable case against it.</em></h6></div><h2>What if the critics are closer to the truth?</h2><p>Start with what we know. This product caused more reactions than either conventional comparator. Grade 3 systemic symptoms affected about 1 in 15 older recipients in the high-dose comparison. Those people were not necessarily hospitalized or permanently harmed, but their symptoms were strong enough to prevent normal activity. That matters.</p><p>Serious adverse events were also slightly more common in the mRNA groups, even though the difference was small. Then there is the 29-to-12 imbalance in unspecified, sudden, and sudden-cardiac deaths. The FDA did not find a convincing causal pattern, but it also could not reconstruct many of those deaths well enough to close the question. No autopsy means one less opportunity to identify a mechanism. Missing adjudication leaves room for misclassification.</p><p>The approval in seniors rests on another uncertainty. MFLUSIVA has not yet proved superior clinical outcomes against a high-dose vaccine. Antibody levels are useful, but they are not the outcome patients care about. People want to know whether they are less likely to become seriously ill, enter a hospital, or die.</p><p>Preapproval studies also have limits. Roughly 36,000 exposed recipients can reveal common problems and some uncommon ones. That number cannot exclude very rare events or harms that take years to appear. Anyone saying a new platform is &#8220;proven completely safe&#8221; would be claiming more than these studies can establish.</p><p>That is a solid case for caution and close follow-up. It is also a reason to preserve conventional choices and give patients honest information about the tolerability tradeoff.</p><p>Now test the other side of the argument. Total deaths were 102 versus 97. Both groups had a mortality rate of 0.3%. Deaths during the first 28 days were 13 versus 14. Medically attended events were nearly identical, and confirmed myocarditis did not increase. The disputed deaths did not cluster around vaccination or reveal a common mechanism.</p><p>The safety concern is therefore unresolved, not established. That wording may feel unsatisfying, but it matches the evidence better than either &#8220;nothing to see here&#8221; or &#8220;the vaccine is killing people.&#8221;</p><p>This is not a permanent conclusion. The evidence could change it. A consistent increase in deaths or another serious outcome would matter. So would a properly reviewed pattern pointing to a common vaccine-related cause. If the large comparison with the high-dose flu vaccine finds that seniors experience more reactions without receiving meaningful added protection, the benefit-risk judgment would need to be reconsidered.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What we should watch next</h2><p>The loudest claim is the 75% figure. The more important questions will take longer to answer.</p><p>Will MFLUSIVA still outperform conventional vaccines when the circulating flu strains change? Will it prevent more clinical illness than a high-dose product in seniors? What explains the death-category imbalance? Does careful surveillance identify any rare risk that the original studies were too small to detect?</p><p>The FDA also raised a technical concern about the antibody testing. Some assays used cell-derived viruses, which might favor the mRNA product over egg-produced comparators. Moderna must repeat that work using both cell-derived and egg-derived viruses.</p><p>These are not reasons to declare the vaccine a failure. They are reasons not to treat approval as the final chapter.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The bottom line</h2><p>About three-quarters of MFLUSIVA recipients in the solicited safety groups reported at least one reaction during the first week. The figure is accurate. It mostly reflects expected short-term symptoms, but the added burden was substantial, and Grade 3 reactions were several times more common.</p><p>Serious events were nowhere near 75%. Overall serious-event rates and mortality were close between the mRNA and comparator groups. The FDA nevertheless found a narrower imbalance in certain death classifications that could not be completely resolved. That deserves continued investigation.</p><p>The vaccine prevented more laboratory-confirmed influenza-like illness than a standard-dose shot during one season. The relative improvement was 26.6%. The absolute difference was about seven cases per 1,000 people. </p><p>Whether that benefit justifies the additional reactions, price, and remaining uncertainty is a reasonable question, especially for adults who already have access to enhanced conventional vaccines.</p><p>The evidence does not support saying that three out of four recipients were seriously harmed. It also does not support pretending that MFLUSIVA arrived without drawbacks or unanswered questions.</p><p>For now, the most defensible conclusion is a limited one. MFLUSIVA was more effective than a standard-dose flu vaccine in one season, and considerably more reactogenic. </p><p>No clear serious safety hazard was established, but several questions still need answers from the FDA-required confirmatory trial and Moderna&#8217;s separate postmarketing safety commitments.</p><p>When those results arrive, the conclusion should be allowed to change with them.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Independent fact-checking takes time. It means reading the full documents, checking the numbers, and confronting the strongest evidence on both sides. If you value this work and want to help <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong> keep doing it, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. Your support makes deeper investigations like this possible. 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>Primary documents and claim sources</h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/194120/download?attachment=">FDA MFLUSIVA prescribing information</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/194121/download?attachment=">FDA MFLUSIVA approval letter, August 5, 2026</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/194140/download">FDA Clinical Review, August 5, 2026</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/193130/download">FDA advisory committee briefing document, June 18, 2026</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/mflusiva">FDA MFLUSIVA product page</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/development-approval-process-cber/vaccine-development-101">FDA Vaccine Development 101</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/71349/download">FDA and ICH guidance on choosing clinical trial controls</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/biologicals/vaccine-standardization/trs_987_annex2.pdf">WHO guidance on nonclinical evaluation of vaccine adjuvants</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory-overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/covid-19-medicines/covid-19-vaccines-key-facts">EMA explanation of mRNA vaccines and gene therapy</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/fda-approves-modernas-first-ever">Nicolas Hulscher&#8217;s article</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/mflusiva-unnecessary-genetic-shot">Peter McCullough&#8217;s article</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUH-fKIhGnM">Jimmy Dore and Angus Dalgleish video</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://x.com/MaryBowdenMD/status/2085413248635986399">Mary Talley Bowden&#8217;s post about flu vaccine uptake</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://x.com/MaryBowdenMD/status/2085418061490766276">Mary Talley Bowden&#8217;s post about the FDA advisory committee</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cms.gov/medicare/payment/part-b-drugs/vaccine-pricing">CMS seasonal influenza vaccine pricing</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/iis/code-sets/fall-season-respiratory-codes.html">CDC seasonal respiratory vaccine product list</a></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Gold Standard by Decree]]></title><description><![CDATA[Trump&#8217;s childhood vaccine order cites an international comparison as scientific proof. Its own source does not support several of the order&#8217;s biggest changes.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/gold-standard-by-decree</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/gold-standard-by-decree</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 11:45:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cycg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bb5bc6-5534-4fe6-9443-5ac3307d2731_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cycg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bb5bc6-5534-4fe6-9443-5ac3307d2731_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cycg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87bb5bc6-5534-4fe6-9443-5ac3307d2731_1672x941.jpeg 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>President Donald Trump signed an executive order on August 10, 2026, declaring a new &#8220;Gold Standard&#8221; for childhood vaccination. It directs federal agencies to advance a framework that would narrow the vaccines recommended for every child, calls for measles, mumps, and rubella to be administered as separate single-disease shots once those products are available, and says childhood vaccines should be given at separate medical visits whenever feasible.</p><p>The order says these changes follow the scientific evidence and the practices of other developed countries.</p><p>The comparison with other countries is real. </p><p>The scientific conclusion drawn from it is much less certain.</p><p>Examining Denmark, Germany, Japan, or any other peer nation can raise interesting questions. But that alone won&#8217;t prove the U.S. schedule is too heavy, or that a vaccine&#8217;s benefit-risk profile is worse here, or that spreading doses over more visits is safer.</p><p>That requires a different kind of analysis. It requires evaluating each disease, each vaccine, and the population that will be affected. The administration&#8217;s central report does not consistently do that.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What the order declares and directs</h2><p>The <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/delivering-gold-standard-childhood-vaccine-recommendations-for-americans/">executive order</a> places childhood immunizations into three categories.</p><p>Vaccines protecting against 11 diseases remain recommended for all children: measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, <em>Haemophilus influenzae</em> type B, pneumococcal disease, human papillomavirus, and varicella.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Six vaccine categories would move out of universal status</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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It has not automatically replaced the operative CDC schedule.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Compared with the 2024 schedule used in the HHS assessment, the change from 17 universally recommended disease targets to 11 would remove the universal recommendation for six vaccine categories: <strong>hepatitis A, hepatitis B, rotavirus, meningococcal disease, influenza, and COVID-19</strong>.</p><p>They are not banned or removed from the market. The order moves them into high-risk and/or shared clinical decision-making categories. Hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and meningococcal vaccines appear in both categories, depending on the patient and circumstances. The order also lists RSV monoclonal antibodies and dengue vaccination for certain high-risk groups, but those are not part of the 17-to-11 vaccine change.</p><p>The order also calls for three separate measles, mumps, and rubella products once they become available in the United States. It recommends administering all childhood immunizations at separate visits &#8220;to the maximum extent feasible.&#8221;</p><p>States are advised to reconsider school requirements, but the order does not automatically rewrite state vaccination laws.</p><p>Those distinctions matter. &#8220;Reducing the childhood vaccine schedule&#8221; is directionally accurate, but &#8220;banning vaccines&#8221; is not.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The international comparison is a benchmark, not a clinical trial</h2><p>The administration&#8217;s foundation is a January 2026 <a href="https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/assessment-of-the-us-childhood-and-adolescent-immunization-schedule-compared-to-other-countries.pdf">HHS assessment</a> written by Tracy Beth H&#248;eg and Martin Kulldorff. It compares the United States with 20 developed nations and identifies vaccines recommended universally across nearly all of them.</p><p>The report is correct about the basic comparison. In 2024, the United States recommended routine protection against more diseases than Denmark and several other peer nations. Denmark&#8217;s official program offers all children free vaccination against 10 diseases, using 11 injections across childhood. The <a href="https://en.ssi.dk/vaccination/the-danish-childhood-vaccination-programme">Danish schedule</a> is not imaginary or inherently reckless.</p><p>But &#8220;Denmark recommends fewer vaccines&#8221; does not establish &#8220;fewer vaccines are better for American children.&#8221;</p><p>National schedules are policy decisions shaped by local disease prevalence, population demographics, healthcare access, screening systems, costs, product availability, delivery infrastructure, and political judgments about which benefits justify a universal program. The <a href="https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/fact-checked/fact-checked-u.s.-vaccine-recommendations-are-appropriate-for-children-in-the-united-states">American Academy of Pediatrics</a> notes that those factors explain why developed countries can reach different recommendations without one schedule proving the others unsafe.</p><p>The HHS report partly acknowledges this. It states that countries differ in disease exposure and healthcare systems. It then treats international agreement as the principal dividing line between vaccines recommended for everyone and vaccines left to individual decision-making.</p><p>That is a policy rule. It is not a demonstrated benefit-risk threshold.</p><p>Under this approach, one or a few countries can effectively veto the &#8220;consensus&#8221; label even when most peer nations recommend a vaccine. The HHS report itself says that 15 of the 20 peer countries routinely recommend meningococcal vaccination, yet the vaccine is downgraded because five do not. Varicella is kept as a universal recommendation despite limited international agreement because the authors believe removing it from the established U.S. program could create harm.</p><p>That exception exposes the weakness in the rule. Once U.S.-specific consequences matter for varicella, they must also matter for hepatitis A, hepatitis B, rotavirus, influenza, and meningococcal disease.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Comparing policies is not the same as reviewing the evidence</h2><p>Federal vaccine recommendations normally go through the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. ACIP workgroups examine disease risk, vaccine effectiveness and safety, feasibility, equity, cost, and the strength of the evidence. Using the GRADE and Evidence to Recommendations frameworks, the committee presents its findings publicly, debates the evidence, and votes.</p><p>The entire childhood schedule has not been tested in a single trial against every possible alternative sequence. That does <strong>not</strong> mean vaccine timing has never been studied. Age, spacing, coadministration, disease risk, safety, and effectiveness are evaluated when recommendations are developed and revised.</p><p>The HHS assessment cites 179 references, but that alone does not make it a systematic review. It provides no reproducible search strategy, inclusion or exclusion criteria, or formal grading of evidence certainty. Nor does it indicate that the report underwent peer review.</p><p>More importantly, the report states explicitly that it &#8220;does not consider the timing or order of vaccines, nor the number of doses, with the exception of the HPV vaccine.&#8221;</p><p>The executive order nevertheless invokes that assessment while endorsing separate appointments for childhood vaccines and separate measles, mumps, and rubella shots.</p><p>That is the central problem. The White House presents the report as the scientific basis for its policy. Yet the report did not examine the timing or separation of vaccines, the very practices the president has now endorsed.</p><p>Comparing national policies may identify differences worth studying. It cannot provide evidence for recommendations the comparison was never designed to evaluate.</p><p>This is stronger because it acknowledges the legitimate schedule-level research gap without allowing &#8220;the entire schedule was never tested in one trial&#8221; to become &#8220;vaccine timing was never studied.&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><h2>The counting problem</h2><p>The White House says the 2024 schedule included at least <strong>84 vaccine doses and 57 shots</strong>. Those numbers come from the HHS report, but they need some context.</p><p>Dose counts can sound overwhelming without any sense of physical scale. Here is what the estimated total injected volume through age 18 actually looks like.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RGa7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed3b6648-1045-4af4-94b2-948fe486df3c_941x1672.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RGa7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed3b6648-1045-4af4-94b2-948fe486df3c_941x1672.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RGa7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed3b6648-1045-4af4-94b2-948fe486df3c_941x1672.png 848w, 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So one MMR injection counts as three vaccine doses. It also assumes annual flu and COVID-19 vaccination throughout childhood, which drives the cumulative total much higher by age 18.</p><p>That method is disclosed in the report. It is not fake math. But it makes it easy to hear &#8220;84 doses&#8221; and picture 84 syringes, or 84 major exposures. That is not what the number means.</p><p>There is another contradiction here. The order points to the high number of shots as a reason to reform the schedule, then calls for one MMR shot to be split into three injections and for vaccines to be given at separate appointments. </p><p>That could mean more needles and more office visits, even as fewer vaccines are routinely recommended.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The report gives too little weight to measurable benefits</h2><p>The international comparison becomes most misleading when a low present-day disease rate is treated as evidence that universal vaccination is no longer useful. Sometimes the rate is low because the vaccination program worked.</p><h3>Rotavirus</h3><ul><li><p>The HHS report estimates one or two additional cases of <strong>intussusception</strong> per 100,000 vaccinated children. CDC summarizes the U.S. postlicensure evidence more broadly as approximately one excess case per 20,000 to 100,000 vaccinated infants, equivalent to about one to five per 100,000.</p></li><li><p>Deaths tell only part of the story. Before rotavirus vaccination became routine, the disease hospitalized an estimated 55,000 to 70,000 American children under five each year and sent more than 200,000 to emergency departments. After vaccination began, the CDC estimated that it prevented about 280,000 clinic visits, 62,000 emergency visits, and 45,000 hospitalizations annually. These estimates appear in the CDC&#8217;s <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-19-rotavirus.html">Rotavirus Pink Book chapter</a>.</p></li><li><p>A serious benefit-risk review can still debate whether those benefits justify universal vaccination. It cannot reduce the benefit side to deaths and chronic disability while treating tens of thousands of prevented hospitalizations as secondary.</p></li></ul><h3> Hepatitis B</h3><ul><li><p>The report points out that many peer nations give the birth dose primarily to infants whose mothers test positive. That approach assumes maternal infection is identified correctly, and the result follows the mother and infant through delivery.</p></li><li><p>The longstanding U.S. recommendation treats the birth dose as a safety net. Infants infected around birth have about a 90 percent risk of developing chronic infection, which can later cause cirrhosis or liver cancer. The <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/rr/rr6701a1.htm">ACIP hepatitis B recommendation</a> explains why universal administration within 24 hours was adopted alongside maternal screening, not instead of it.</p></li><li><p>The relevant question is not simply how many countries use a universal birth dose. It is how often screening, documentation, and follow-up fail in the United States, what happens when they fail, and how the vaccine&#8217;s risks compare with the protection provided by a universal safety net.</p></li></ul><h3> Hepatitis A</h3><ul><li><p>Young children with hepatitis A are often asymptomatic, which makes them capable of spreading infection without anyone realizing they are infected. After the United States expanded childhood vaccination, reported hepatitis A incidence fell sharply and childcare outbreaks became rare. Those outcomes are described in the<strong> </strong><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/rr/rr6905a1.htm">2020 ACIP hepatitis A review</a>.</p></li><li><p>Again, low incidence after a successful program is not automatically evidence that the program was unnecessary.</p></li></ul><h3>Influenza</h3><ul><li><p>The HHS assessment accurately notes limitations in randomized trials for rare outcomes such as pediatric hospitalization and death. Trials are often too small to measure uncommon severe outcomes reliably.</p></li><li><p>That does not mean there is no evidence. Observational studies have found protection against severe influenza outcomes. One U.S. <a href="https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/50536/cdc_50536_DS1.pdf">analysis</a> estimated that vaccination reduced influenza-associated death by about half among children with high-risk conditions and by nearly two-thirds among children without them. The study also explains its design limitations and sensitivity analyses. It is not perfect evidence, but it is evidence that a complete review must weigh.</p></li><li><p>The broader point is not that every previous recommendation must remain forever. It is that each change needs its own transparent benefit-risk analysis. A count of what other governments recommend cannot substitute for it.</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><h2>The MMR and spacing recommendations are the weakest part</h2><p>The executive order does not cite evidence showing that three separate measles, mumps, and rubella products are safer than the combined vaccine. The<span data-color="#3d85c6" style="color: rgb(61, 133, 198);"> </span><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/vaccines/mmr.html">CDC states plainly</a> that no published scientific evidence demonstrates a benefit from separating MMR into three individual shots. Single-antigen measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines are not currently available in the United States. The FDA lists two approved MMR products, <a href="https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/vaccination-best-protection-against-measles">M-M-R II and Priorix</a>.</p><p>That does not mean MMR is risk-free. A <a href="https://www.cochrane.org/evidence/CD004407_does-measles-mumps-rubella-and-varicella-mmrv-vaccine-protect-children-and-does-it-cause-harmful">Cochrane systematic review</a> included 138 studies involving more than 23 million children. It found the vaccine effective and found no increased risk of autism or encephalitis, but it also confirmed small known risks, including febrile seizures and immune thrombocytopenic purpura. The reviewers rated the evidence for MMR effectiveness, autism, and febrile seizures as moderate certainty, not absolute certainty.</p><p>A <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/199117">large Danish cohort study</a> estimated 1.56 additional febrile seizures per 1,000 children during the two weeks after MMR vaccination at 15 to 17 months of age. Among children who experienced a febrile seizure after vaccination, the study found no increased rate of later epilepsy compared with children whose febrile seizures occurred for other reasons.</p><p>The relevant question is therefore not whether MMR can cause an adverse reaction. It can. The question is whether administering the same three vaccine components separately prevents those reactions. No comparative evidence shows that it does.</p><p>There is one important combination-vaccine finding that can easily be confused with this issue. The first dose of the four-component MMRV vaccine, which adds varicella, has been associated with a higher risk of febrile seizures than giving MMR and varicella as two injections at the same visit. </p><p>That evidence led the CDC to <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5903a1.htm">recommend MMR plus a separate varicella vaccine for the first dose in children 12 to 47 months</a>, unless a parent prefers MMRV. It does not show that separating measles, mumps, and rubella from one another is safer. In fact, it shows what an evidence-based change should look like: compare specific products, measure a defined outcome, quantify the difference, and revise the recommendation accordingly.</p><p>Splitting MMR does not remove any of the three target antigens. It adds injections. If the existing two-dose regimen remained in place, two combined injections would become six single-disease injections. Under the order&#8217;s preferred approach, each MMR round would generally mean three separate visits rather than one, where feasible. </p><p>If the future single-antigen products are injectable live vaccines, as the current MMR components are, existing <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/imz-best-practices/timing-spacing-immunobiologics.html">CDC guidance</a> would generally require products not given on the same day to be separated by at least 28 days. Three visits could therefore span at least 56 days. The exact schedule cannot be known until those products exist and are licensed.</p><p>Until all three components had been administered and immunity had time to develop, a child could remain without protection against one or more of the diseases. </p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If measles were not given first, protection against it would begin later. A postponed or missed visit could widen that gap or leave the series incomplete. The order does not say which vaccine should come first, and the administration cites no evidence that spacing the vaccines this way would improve safety.</p></div><div><hr></div><h3>Adding delays during a measles comeback</h3><p>This is not an abstract concern. As of August 6, 2026, the <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html">CDC had confirmed 2,465 measles cases and 38 new outbreaks</a> in the United States during 2026. That already exceeded the 2,289 cases reported during all of 2025 and was nearly nine times the 285 cases reported in 2024. Ninety-four percent of the 2026 cases were associated with outbreaks.</p><p>At the same time, MMR coverage among U.S. kindergarteners has fallen from 95.2% in 2019&#8211;2020 to 92.5% in 2024&#8211;2025, below the 95% target generally needed for community protection against a virus as contagious as measles. The CDC estimates that approximately 286,000 kindergarteners were at risk during the 2024&#8211;2025 school year.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TiyM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13c7128c-cd0f-48b5-8b80-91b00f3bf311_2000x1125.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TiyM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13c7128c-cd0f-48b5-8b80-91b00f3bf311_2000x1125.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TiyM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13c7128c-cd0f-48b5-8b80-91b00f3bf311_2000x1125.png 848w, 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The 2026 case count covers only January through August 6 and remains preliminary.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The resurgence does not prove that every child who experiences a scheduling delay will contract measles, nor does it mean scheduling alone caused the outbreaks. It does make the tradeoff more urgent. </p><p>The preferred approach could turn one visit into three, creating more needle sticks, more appointments, and more chances for delay or noncompletion at precisely the moment when measles is exploiting gaps in protection. No demonstrated safety advantage has been offered to compensate for that added risk.</p><p>Whether future monovalent products would cause more or fewer adverse reactions cannot be known until the specific products, formulations, and supporting evidence are available.</p><p>During the signing event, Trump said autism was part of the administration&#8217;s concern. The order itself does not mention autism, but the scientific evidence does not support separating MMR for that reason. </p><p>A <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-2101">nationwide Danish cohort</a> of 657,461 children found no increased autism risk after MMR vaccination, including among children considered more susceptible. A <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24814559/">2014 meta-analysis</a> covering more than 1.2 million children likewise found no association between vaccination, MMR, thimerosal, and autism.</p><p>There is no evidence that giving every vaccine at a separate appointment is safer. According to <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-3-immunization-strategies.html">CDC guidance</a>, routine vaccines given during the same visit produce immune responses and adverse-event rates similar to those seen when the vaccines are given separately.</p><p>An executive order is not a safety finding. The order cites no new evidence that combined MMR is unsafe, nor does it conclude that the vaccine failed safety testing. Pursuing separate products reflects the administration&#8217;s policy preference, not a scientific admission.</p><p>For some live vaccines, giving them on different days but less than four weeks apart can interfere with the immune response, which means &#8220;spacing out&#8221; is not a simple safety switch.</p><p>More appointments also create more opportunities for delay, missed visits, transportation problems, and incomplete vaccination. Calling that &#8220;choice&#8221; does not erase the practical effect.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Medical choice cannot be prescribed from the Oval Office</h2><p>The order repeatedly invokes parental choice, personal autonomy, informed consent, and shared clinical decision-making. Those are legitimate principles. </p><p>But the same document declares that MMR &#8220;should&#8221; be split into three single-disease shots and that, &#8220;to the maximum extent feasible,&#8221; all childhood immunizations should be given at separate medical visits.</p><p>That is more than protecting a parent&#8217;s right to accept or refuse a vaccine. It is the president declaring how doctors should administer vaccines, even though the HHS assessment did not evaluate vaccine timing or order and no evidence shows that these changes are safer.</p><p>The order does not legally compel a doctor to follow this plan, and it says combined vaccines should remain available. Still, federal vaccine recommendations are not casual suggestions. </p><p>The order directs federal agencies to take steps to advance them and advises states to reconsider their vaccination laws and regulations. Policy decisions made in Washington can therefore shape the options doctors have, the guidance they are expected to follow, and the choices presented to families.</p><div><hr></div><p>Statement released by the American Medical Association:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TzUz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f352f2f-aaef-4f55-b277-329d343a0c51_1080x1350.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TzUz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f352f2f-aaef-4f55-b277-329d343a0c51_1080x1350.jpeg 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The American Academy of Pediatrics rejected the scientific premise behind the order. AAP President Dr. Andrew Racine stated:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Today&#8217;s executive order is not based on &#8216;gold-standard science.&#8217; There is no new evidence to justify significant changes to childhood immunization guidance.</em>&#8221; </p><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2026/aap-statement-in-response-to-executive-order-on-vaccines/">AAP Statement in Response to Executive Order on Vaccines</a></p></blockquote><p>The order promises to restore medical choice while prescribing vaccine timing and administration from the Oval Office. Shared decision-making is not truly shared when the government has already declared which answer doctors should recommend.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210686033?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3GRj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b9830e3-2332-485e-95e7-56b19349fc18_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Supporters of the order have a legitimate point. The United States recommends more childhood vaccines than many peer countries, and the complete schedule has not been tested in a single trial against every possible alternative. Other developed nations achieve good health outcomes with fewer universally recommended vaccines. Those differences deserve examination, not automatic dismissal.</p><p>We should also test our own reaction. Are we defending the existing schedule simply because it reflects established public-health policy? Would we judge the order differently if the same proposals came from an administration we trusted more? Are we treating uncertainty about the schedule as evidence that no change is justified?</p><p>Those questions expose a real need for continued research and vaccine-by-vaccine review. They do not, however, establish that fewer universal recommendations would produce better outcomes, that separate MMR vaccines would be safer, or that spreading routine vaccines across additional appointments would reduce adverse events.</p><p>Evidence could change that conclusion. A transparent review showing that the risks or limited benefits of a particular vaccine no longer justify universal recommendation would support changing its status. Comparative evidence showing that separate MMR vaccines or additional appointments improve safety without reducing completion or delaying protection would support those changes as well.</p><p>That evidence may eventually emerge. The problem is that the HHS assessment did not examine the timing or separation policies the order now endorses. The strongest argument for reconsidering the schedule supports conducting the review. It does not supply the results in advance.</p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Some goals are reasonable. The process still matters.</h2><p>More transparent safety monitoring is a reasonable goal. So is continued study of timing, combinations, adjuvants, rare adverse events, and long-term outcomes. The order&#8217;s call for ongoing benefit-risk evaluation should not be dismissed merely because it came from Trump or Robert F. Kennedy Jr.</p><p>Not every underlying proposal is evidence-free. The report&#8217;s discussion of a one-dose HPV schedule cites randomized and long-term effectiveness evidence, along with countries that have already adopted one dose. The move to shared clinical decision-making for childhood COVID-19 vaccination also predates this order. Those are examples of changes that can be evaluated on their own evidence, rather than justified by the total number of vaccines on a national schedule.</p><p>The HHS report also makes a credible case that public trust was damaged during the COVID-19 pandemic. A public health system cannot simply demand that trust back.</p><p>But distrust is not repaired by labeling a policy &#8220;Gold Standard&#8221; before the gold-standard review has occurred.</p><p>There is a proper way to use international comparisons. Identify a meaningful difference. Ask why it exists. Examine the disease burden and outcomes in both countries. Review the evidence for each vaccine. Grade its quality. Publish the analysis. Invite criticism. Then change the recommendation if the evidence supports it.</p><p>This order reverses that sequence. It announces the answer, then directs the government to develop the science and products needed to carry it out.</p><p>That is policy first, evidence second.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The legal and practical reality</h2><p>The administration had already tried to put much of this three-tier schedule into effect in January 2026. On March 16, a federal judge stayed the January schedule memo, the appointments of 13 reconstituted ACIP members, and every vote taken by those members. </p><p>The court found that the plaintiffs were likely to succeed in showing that the CDC acted contrary to law and arbitrarily and capriciously by bypassing ACIP and abandoning its longstanding process without adequate explanation. The August order acknowledges that litigation delayed the earlier policy.</p><p>The new order does not make separate MMR products suddenly available. It does not rewrite insurance contracts or state school-vaccine requirements overnight. Agencies still have to act within existing law. </p><p>Manufacturers would need to develop and license new products. The government has appealed the part of the ruling concerning the ACIP appointments, and further litigation is likely.</p><p>For parents and physicians, the immediate effect may be less dramatic than the announcement suggests. The larger issue is institutional. A president has declared a national medical recommendation by executive order after the established advisory process became an obstacle.</p><p>That should concern people whether they favor more vaccines, fewer vaccines, or greater parental discretion. </p><p>The standard should be the same under every administration: medical recommendations should follow a transparent review of the evidence, not depend on which president signs the paper.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If you value analysis that checks the argument instead of checking the speaker&#8217;s political jersey, subscribe to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center;">&#8226; Think Critically  &#8226; Follow the Evidence  <br>&#8226; Question Everything  &#8226; Question Yourself</p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Resources</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/delivering-gold-standard-childhood-vaccine-recommendations-for-americans/">Executive Order: Delivering Gold Standard Childhood Vaccine Recommendations for Americans</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/assessment-of-the-us-childhood-and-adolescent-immunization-schedule-compared-to-other-countries.pdf">HHS assessment of the U.S. childhood schedule compared with other countries</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.ssi.dk/vaccination/the-danish-childhood-vaccination-programme">Danish childhood vaccination programme</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/acip/evidence-based-recommendations/index.html">CDC: Evidence-Based Recommendations for ACIP</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7301a2.htm">CDC: 2024 child and adolescent immunization schedule development</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-3-immunization-strategies.html">CDC: General best practices for simultaneous vaccination</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/vaccination-best-protection-against-measles">FDA: Approved MMR vaccines</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/vaccines/mmr.html">CDC: MMR vaccine safety and separating MMR</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html">CDC: Measles cases, outbreaks, and MMR coverage</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cochrane.org/evidence/CD004407_does-measles-mumps-rubella-and-varicella-mmrv-vaccine-protect-children-and-does-it-cause-harmful">Cochrane: MMR, MMRV, and MMR plus varicella effectiveness and safety review</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/199117">JAMA: MMR vaccination, febrile seizures, and long-term prognosis</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5903a1.htm">CDC/ACIP: MMRV compared with MMR plus separate varicella vaccination</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-2101">Annals of Internal Medicine: MMR vaccination and autism, nationwide cohort study</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24814559/">Vaccine: Meta-analysis of vaccination and autism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7331a2.htm">CDC: Health and economic benefits of routine childhood immunization, 1994&#8211;2023</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/rr/rr6701a1.htm">CDC: Hepatitis B prevention recommendations</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/rr/rr6905a1.htm">CDC: Hepatitis A prevention recommendations</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-19-rotavirus.html">CDC Pink Book: Rotavirus disease burden and vaccine impact</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/50536/cdc_50536_DS1.pdf">Pediatrics: Influenza vaccine effectiveness against pediatric deaths</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.apha.org/news-and-media/news-releases/apha-news-releases/federal-judge-blocks-immunization-schedule-changes">Federal court injunction summary from the American Public Health Association</a></p><h3>Medical organizations</h3><ul><li><p>American Academy of Pediatrics statement on the August executive order</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/ama-press-releases/ama-statement-eo-directing-cdc-assess-childhood-vaccine-schedule?utm_source=chatgpt.com">American Medical Association statement on the May executive order</a></p></li></ul></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[When Bias Looks Like Risk ]]></title><description><![CDATA[How a self-selected survey produced a 27X autism claim.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/when-bias-looks-like-risk</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/when-bias-looks-like-risk</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. 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Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2026 23:32:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xz9y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c95ff3e-da76-434e-bdfa-08cc14735dd4_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xz9y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c95ff3e-da76-434e-bdfa-08cc14735dd4_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xz9y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c95ff3e-da76-434e-bdfa-08cc14735dd4_1672x941.jpeg 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A number like <strong>27X</strong> gets your attention. It should.</p><p>Steve Kirsch says vaccinated children in his reader survey were 27 times more likely than unvaccinated children to develop sudden regressive autism. That is a remarkable number. But before calling it a risk estimate, there is a harder question to answer:</p><p><strong>Who ended up in the survey in the first place?</strong></p><p>On August 8, Kirsch published the results of a survey of parents and grandparents in his readership. After removing U.S. responses without email addresses and records whose numbers did not add up, he reported that fully vaccinated children were 27 times more likely than unvaccinated children to have what he calls Sudden Onset Regressive Autism, or SORA. Partially vaccinated children were reportedly 13 times more likely.</p><p>Kirsch initially reported approximately 27X for fully vaccinated children and 13X for partially vaccinated children. A later graphic summarizing the cleaned survey data reports 25.5X and 11.1X, respectively. The difference does not affect the methodological argument, but I will use the figures as presented in each version.</p><p>Kirsch called that pattern dose-dependent and described it as a hallmark of causality. He also reported that, among parents who had both vaccinated and unvaccinated children, the unvaccinated children were judged &#8220;significantly healthier&#8221; by a margin of 10 to 1.</p><p>Those are striking findings. But striking findings do not get a free pass on study design.</p><p>I don&#8217;t have to start by assuming vaccines cannot play a role in autism. I don&#8217;t need to assume the CDC is always right, pharmaceutical companies are always trustworthy, or every vaccine-safety study ever published is flawless. I don&#8217;t even need to assume the true relative risk is 1.</p><p>For the sake of argument, we can assume Kirsch calculated his survey results correctly.</p><p>The question is whether those calculations support the conclusion he attaches to them.</p><p>That is where the trouble begins.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Start with what Kirsch got right</h2><p>Kirsch released his underlying survey responses. That&#8217;s a good thing. If someone is going to make a controversial empirical claim, allowing other people to inspect the data is far better than keeping it hidden.</p><p>There is also nothing inherently wrong with conducting a survey. Surveys are used throughout medicine, public health and the social sciences. A survey can uncover patterns, generate hypotheses and point researchers toward questions that deserve better study.</p><p>But the quality of a survey depends on more than the number of responses it collects. It depends on how respondents were recruited, why they participated, how the questions were worded, how exposures and outcomes were defined, and whether the groups being compared are actually comparable.</p><p>A survey does not become representative simply because it has a lot of respondents.</p><p>And Kirsch tells us something important about his respondents himself.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kirsch identifies the bias problem</h2><p>Kirsch acknowledges that his readers are more likely than the general public to have experienced what they believe was a vaccine injury.</p><p>That is not a trivial disclaimer. It goes directly to the way the sample was created.</p><p>These families were not randomly selected from American households. They came from Kirsch&#8217;s audience, an audience heavily interested in vaccine injury, vaccine safety and criticism of public-health institutions. Members of that audience then decided for themselves whether to participate in a survey about vaccination and their children.</p><p>That is a self-selected, nonprobability sample.</p><p>The problem is not simply that Kirsch&#8217;s readers have different opinions from the average American. The more serious problem is that <strong>the subject of the survey itself may affect who is motivated to answer it</strong>.</p><p>Researchers studying online surveys have a name for this: topical self-selection. People with a strong personal connection to the subject can be more likely to participate, and that can produce results that differ substantially from population benchmarks. Lehdonvirta and colleagues found exactly this problem when comparing web and social-media samples with benchmark data. (<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/poi3.238?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Wiley Online Library</a>)</p><p>Pew Research Center has repeatedly found that online opt-in samples can produce sizable errors even after researchers try to balance them demographically. In a 2023 comparison, average error across 28 benchmark measures was roughly twice as large in opt-in samples as in probability-based online panels. (<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2023/09/07/comparing-two-types-of-online-survey-samples/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Pew Research Center</a>)</p><p>Apply that to Kirsch&#8217;s survey.</p><p>A parent who believes a child&#8217;s developmental regression followed vaccination has a strong reason to read Kirsch, notice a vaccine-autism survey and complete it. A parent with vaccinated children who never experienced regression may have much less reason to do any of those things.</p><p>Nobody needs to lie.</p><p>Nobody needs to manipulate the survey.</p><p>Nobody even needs to answer a question incorrectly.</p><p>Different probabilities of entering the survey are enough to create a problem.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kirsch left this door open himself</h2><p>This matters because Kirsch has made a much stronger claim about his surveys before.</p><p>Writing about an earlier vaccinated-versus-unvaccinated survey in 2023, he said:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;The only way to attack my survey is to show that the parents all colluded and lied about their kids.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>That is demonstrably false. (<a href="https://kirschsubstack.com/p/the-data-is-clear-the-more-vaccines?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Kirsch Substack</a>)</p><p>Honest answers can produce a badly biased association if the people providing those answers are selected into the study in a way that depends on both the exposure and the outcome.</p><p>This is standard epidemiology, not a vaccine-specific objection.</p><p>Marcus Munaf&#242; and colleagues examined this problem in the <em>International Journal of Epidemiology</em>. They showed how conditioning on participation in a selected sample can produce collider bias, creating associations that do not exist in the underlying population or making real associations look larger or smaller than they actually are. Their conclusion was that selection can generate &#8220;substantially biased estimates of associations.&#8221; (<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/47/1/226/4259077?utm_source=chatgpt.com">OUP Academic</a>)</p><p>That point is important because an obvious response to the bias criticism is:</p><p><strong>Fine, maybe Kirsch&#8217;s audience isn&#8217;t representative. But how could selection bias possibly create something as large as 27X?</strong></p><p>It can.</p><div><hr></div><h2>How selection alone can produce 27X</h2><p>Consider a simple hypothetical population.</p><p>There are 100,000 vaccinated children and 100,000 unvaccinated children. Suppose SORA occurs in exactly 0.3% of each group.</p><p>That gives us 300 SORA cases among vaccinated children and 300 among unvaccinated children. The true relative risk is exactly <strong>1.0</strong>. In this imaginary population, vaccination has no relationship whatsoever with SORA.</p><p>Now imagine an online survey.</p><ul><li><p>Suppose 1% of vaccinated families without SORA participate. That gives us 997 children.</p></li><li><p>Suppose 1% of unvaccinated families without SORA participate. Again, 997.</p></li><li><p>Suppose 1% of unvaccinated families with a SORA case participate. That&#8217;s 3 cases.</p></li></ul><p>But vaccinated families whose child developed SORA are much more engaged with the vaccine-injury question, so 30% of those families participate. That&#8217;s 90 cases.</p><p>Nobody has lied. Nobody has changed an answer. Every record in the survey is accurate. The survey now contains 90 SORA cases among 1,087 vaccinated children, about <strong>8.28%</strong>, and 3 cases among 1,000 unvaccinated children, <strong>0.30%</strong>.</p><p>The apparent relative risk is:</p><p><strong>27.6X.</strong></p><p>Yet we deliberately built the underlying population so the true relative risk was <strong>1.0</strong>. This is an illustration, not an estimate of what happened in Kirsch&#8217;s survey. I am not claiming that vaccinated SORA families were actually 30 times more likely to participate. We don&#8217;t know their participation probabilities.</p><p>That is exactly the point. The example establishes only one thing, but it establishes it decisively:</p><p><strong>You do not need lying, fraud or collusion to produce a 27X association in a self-selected sample.</strong></p><p>Differential selection is mathematically capable of doing it. Epidemiological research explains why the same mechanism can create, inflate, reduce or even reverse associations in selected samples. (<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/47/1/226/4259077?utm_source=chatgpt.com">OUP Academic</a>)</p><p>Once that door is open, the size of 27X cannot be used as proof that bias is incapable of explaining the result.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!913S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde8ea244-03f3-48d5-ad2e-ba19bc918cae_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!913S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde8ea244-03f3-48d5-ad2e-ba19bc918cae_1536x1024.png 424w, 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That may sound reassuring, but equal group size does not solve selection bias.</p><p>Imagine recruiting exactly 1,000 smokers and 1,000 nonsmokers from a lung-cancer clinic. The two groups are perfectly balanced numerically. They still tell us very little about smoking prevalence in the general population.</p><p>The important question is not simply how many people ended up on each side of the comparison.</p><p>It is <strong>why those particular people ended up there</strong>.</p><p>Pew has found that nonprobability samples can look reasonably balanced on demographic characteristics and still miss population benchmarks by substantial margins. Balancing a sample does not recreate the random selection process that was missing at recruitment. (<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2016/05/02/assessing-the-accuracy-of-online-nonprobability-surveys/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Pew Research Center</a>)</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s nearly equal vaccinated and unvaccinated groups may improve the numerical precision of his within-survey calculation. They do not make either group representative of American children.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The updated graphic is clearer. The problem remains.</h2><p>Kirsch later published a summary graphic with the cleaned survey numbers. It reports SORA in <strong>7.51% of fully vaccinated children, 3.27% of partially vaccinated children, and 0.294% of unvaccinated children</strong>, producing crude ratios of <strong>25.5X</strong> and <strong>11.1X</strong> compared with the unvaccinated group.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FhPL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f74f8f4-aeb0-4d75-b135-ee245949abf0_766x517.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FhPL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f74f8f4-aeb0-4d75-b135-ee245949abf0_766x517.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><strong>Kirsch&#8217;s updated summary graphic.</strong> The revised analysis reports 25.5X for fully vaccinated children and 11.1X for partially vaccinated children. The graphic also acknowledges that the survey is self-selected and observational and that the estimates do not adjust for household clustering, nonresponse, or confounding.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The arithmetic is not the problem.</p><p>In fact, the graphic itself acknowledges several of the limitations that matter most. At the bottom, it describes the survey as <strong>observational and self-selected</strong> and notes that the estimates do not adjust for <strong>household clustering, nonresponse, or confounding</strong>.</p><p>Those are not minor disclaimers. They go directly to whether 25.5X can be interpreted as the risk faced by vaccinated children outside this survey.</p><p>The graphic also gives us a better look at how the final dataset was created. It begins with <strong>1,386 U.S. records</strong>. Of those, 1,178 passed what Kirsch calls a &#8220;category-sum check,&#8221; and another six were removed as impossible records, leaving <strong>1,172 records for analysis</strong>.</p><p>That means 208 records failed the category-sum check.</p><p>There may be perfectly legitimate reasons for excluding them. But if exclusions are part of the analysis, we need to know exactly what failed, how those rules were applied, and whether excluded records differed by vaccination category or reported outcome. Excluding records can itself affect an association if the probability of exclusion is related to the exposure or outcome.</p><p>The graphic also says <strong>&#8220;blanks treated as zero.&#8221; </strong>That deserves more attention than it gets.</p><p>A blank field is not necessarily a confirmed zero. It might mean zero, but it could also mean the respondent skipped the question, misunderstood it, did not know the answer, or simply left it incomplete. Treating all missing responses as negative is an analytical choice. A useful sensitivity check would be to repeat the analysis treating blanks as missing and see whether the result changes.</p><p>Then there is the unit of analysis.</p><p>The 1,172 respondent records contain:</p><ul><li><p><strong>1,545 fully vaccinated children</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>1,069 partially vaccinated children</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>1,360 unvaccinated children</strong></p></li></ul><p>That is <strong>3,974 children from 1,172 records</strong>.</p><p>In other words, many respondents contributed more than one child.</p><p>Those children are not statistically independent in the same way that 3,974 randomly selected children from 3,974 unrelated families would be. Siblings share parents, genetics, home environment, healthcare access, socioeconomic circumstances, and often the same parental attitudes toward vaccination.</p><p>A family with six children contributes six observations. A family with one child contributes one. The graphic itself acknowledges that the analysis does not adjust for this household clustering.</p><p>That does not make the reported percentages meaningless. It means the apparent sample size overstates the amount of independent information in the dataset and that conventional uncertainty estimates would need to account for clustering.</p><p>There is another number worth noticing.</p><p>The <strong>0.294% SORA rate in the unvaccinated group is based on just four reported cases among 1,360 children</strong>.</p><p>Those four cases form the reference point for the 25.5X comparison.</p><p>Again, that does not invalidate the calculation. But it means the headline ratio depends heavily on a very small number of events in the denominator group. Add or subtract only a few unvaccinated cases and the relative risk moves substantially.</p><p>That is one more reason to resist treating <strong>25.5X</strong> as though it were a settled population parameter.</p><p>And the graphic contains one more revealing detail.</p><p>For the claim that unvaccinated children in mixed families were &#8220;significantly healthier,&#8221; only <strong>22 of 125 mixed families answered that question</strong>.</p><p>That is 17.6%.</p><p>More than four out of five eligible mixed families did not provide an answer to that item.</p><p>Among the responses that expressed a direction, the graphic reports 15 favoring the unvaccinated children and two favoring the vaccinated children. That describes those respondents. It does not tell us how the other 103 families would have answered.</p><p>That is item nonresponse, and with nonresponse that large, the 10-to-1 presentation deserves considerable caution.</p><p>None of this proves Kirsch&#8217;s association is false.</p><p>That is not the argument.</p><p>The point is that the more detail Kirsch provides, the clearer the distinction becomes between <strong>a large association inside his survey</strong> and <strong>an estimate of risk in the population</strong>.</p><p>The updated graphic makes the survey easier to understand. It does not change what kind of survey it is.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Is 13X to 27X really a dose response?</h2><p>Kirsch&#8217;s partially vaccinated group is one of the more interesting findings in the survey.</p><p>He reports roughly 13X for partially vaccinated children and 27X for fully vaccinated children, with unvaccinated children as the reference. He calls that dose-dependent and argues that the gradient is a hallmark of causality.</p><p>A genuine dose-response relationship can strengthen a causal argument.</p><p>But &#8220;unvaccinated,&#8221; &#8220;partially vaccinated&#8221; and &#8220;fully vaccinated&#8221; are categories, not biological doses.</p><p>Children receive different vaccines, different numbers of doses, at different ages and in different combinations. Two children can both be classified as partially vaccinated while having very different exposure histories.</p><p>There is another problem. Vaccination status may itself be affected by what happened earlier in a child&#8217;s life or to an older sibling.</p><p>Imagine parents who vaccinate their first child according to schedule. The child later develops a health or developmental problem that the parents believe was vaccine-related. They stop further vaccination. Their next child receives fewer vaccines, and a third receives none.</p><p>Now birth order, family experience, the timing of developmental concerns and parental decisions are all helping determine which category each child occupies.</p><p>That can produce an ordered pattern in the data without proving that increasing biological vaccine exposure caused increasing autism risk.</p><p>If we want to call 13X to 27X a dose response, we need actual exposure information: which vaccines, how many doses, at what ages, in what sequence, and ideally an exposure measure specified before the outcome analysis.</p><p>The pattern is worth investigating. Calling it a hallmark of causality gets ahead of the data.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What exactly is &#8220;SORA&#8221;?</h2><p>Kirsch calls the outcome Sudden Onset Regressive Autism, or SORA.</p><p>Autistic or developmental regression is certainly a real subject of research. Children can lose previously acquired language, social or other developmental skills. What is much less simple is deciding precisely what counts as regression, when it began and how it should be measured.</p><p>A 2021 systematic review and meta-analysis examined 97 studies of autistic regression. Among the 75 studies with sufficient data for meta-analysis, involving 33,014 participants, the pooled prevalence was about 30%. But heterogeneity was enormous, and the estimate changed depending on how researchers defined regression. Language regression was estimated at about 20%, language/social regression at 40%, mixed regression at 30% and unspecified regression at 27%. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33491292/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed</a>)</p><p>The measurement problem is still active enough that an international clinician group published a consensus definition of developmental regression in July 2026. Their working definition requires loss of previously acquired skills lasting at least four weeks in at least one of six developmental domains. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42406921/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed</a>)</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t mean Kirsch is forbidden from defining a narrower category such as SORA. It means the definition has to be explicit and applied consistently.</p><p>What counts as &#8220;sudden&#8221;? Which skills must disappear? How much loss is necessary? Who establishes that the child had previously acquired those skills? Is the regression confirmed in medical or developmental records, or reconstructed from parental memory?</p><p>Those details matter because the outcome itself is what generates the 27X calculation.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The &#8220;conservative&#8221; 4.43X estimate has a different problem</h2><p>Kirsch apparently anticipates objections to his 27X result, so he offers another calculation that he calls conservative.</p><p>His unvaccinated respondents reportedly had a SORA prevalence of <strong>0.293%</strong>. He assumes SORA accounts for roughly 40% of autism, so he divides 0.293% by 0.40 and infers an overall autism prevalence of roughly <strong>0.73%</strong> among his unvaccinated respondents.</p><p>He then compares that estimated prevalence with approximately 3.2% from CDC autism surveillance and arrives at <strong>4.43X</strong>, which he presents as a conservative estimate of how much more likely vaccinated children are to be autistic.</p><p>There is a small arithmetic issue first.</p><p>Using the rounded numbers printed in the argument, 0.293 divided by 0.40 gives 0.7325%. Dividing 3.2% by 0.7325% gives approximately <strong>4.37</strong>, not 4.43.</p><p>That difference is minor and could easily be explained by rounding. It is not the important problem. The important problem is that the calculation no longer contains a vaccinated comparison group.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Where did the vaccinated children go?</h2><p>Look carefully at the 4.43 calculation.</p><p>The denominator is an <strong>estimated autism prevalence among Kirsch&#8217;s unvaccinated respondents</strong>. The numerator is an autism prevalence estimate from the CDC&#8217;s ADDM surveillance network. </p><p>But the CDC number is not an autism prevalence estimate for children classified as &#8220;fully vaccinated&#8221; under Kirsch&#8217;s survey definition. It is an external surveillance estimate covering children regardless of the vaccination categories Kirsch used.</p><p>That means the calculation is no longer:</p><blockquote><p><strong>autism among vaccinated children &#247; autism among unvaccinated children</strong></p></blockquote><p>It is:</p><blockquote><p><strong>autism prevalence in an external surveillance population &#247; estimated autism prevalence in Kirsch&#8217;s selected unvaccinated subgroup</strong></p></blockquote><p>Those are not the same thing.</p><p>If I find diabetes in 1% of nonsmokers who answer my newsletter survey and then compare that with a 5% diabetes prevalence reported across an entire city, I have not demonstrated that smokers have five times the diabetes risk.</p><p>The numerator did not isolate smokers. Kirsch&#8217;s 4.43 calculation has the same problem.</p><p>Whatever that ratio represents, it is <strong>not a vaccinated-versus-unvaccinated relative risk</strong>. Calling it one gives the calculation a meaning it does not contain.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The 3.2% figure isn&#8217;t quite what Kirsch makes it sound like</h2><p>The 3.2% figure itself needs some context.</p><p>CDC&#8217;s 2025 ADDM report identified autism in 32.2 per 1,000 8-year-old children, about 3.22%, across <strong>16 surveillance sites</strong> using 2022 data. The estimate varied substantially by site, from 9.7 per 1,000 in Laredo, Texas to 53.1 per 1,000 in California. (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/ss/ss7402a1.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><p>It is therefore too loose to treat 3.2% as though it were a simple random-sample measurement of every American child.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s respondents, meanwhile, included children and grandchildren up to age 20.</p><p>Now we are comparing different age structures, different ascertainment methods, different geographic structures and different outcome definitions.</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t make the CDC surveillance estimate useless. It makes direct division between the two figures questionable.</p><p>And Kirsch adds another assumption before performing that division.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The 40% conversion factor is not a constant</h2><p>Kirsch assumes that SORA represents roughly 40% of all autism.</p><p>But research on autistic regression specifically tells us not to treat a number like 40% as a universal conversion factor.</p><p>A meta-analysis by Barger, Campbell and McDonough covered 85 studies and 29,035 participants. Overall regression prevalence was estimated at 32.1%.</p><p>More revealingly, it changed substantially according to sampling method.</p><p>Population-based studies produced an estimate of <strong>21.8%</strong>.</p><p>Clinic-based studies produced <strong>33.6%</strong>.</p><p>Parent-survey studies produced <strong>40.8%</strong>. (<a href="https://eric.ed.gov/?ff1=subInterpersonal+Competence&amp;ff2=souJournal+of+Autism+and+Developmental+Disorders&amp;id=EJ999891&amp;q=regression+%28autism+OR+autistic%29+-descriptor%3A%22regression+analysis%22+-descriptor%3A%22regression+%28statistics%29%22+descriptor%3Aautism&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">ERIC</a>)</p><p>That finding is almost tailor-made for this discussion.</p><p>The percentage of autistic children classified as regressive changed depending on how the sample was obtained. The updated 2021 meta-analysis reached roughly 30% overall and again found major variation according to the definition of regression. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33491292/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed</a>)</p><p>There is therefore no defensible general equation saying:</p><p><strong>SORA = 40% of autism.</strong></p><p>Use 40%, and Kirsch gets one inferred prevalence.</p><p>Use 30%, and he gets another.</p><p>Use the 21.8% estimate from population-based studies, and he gets something else again. The supposedly conservative 4.43X estimate rests heavily on a conversion factor that the regression literature tells us is not stable.</p><div><hr></div><h2>&#8220;My unvaccinated readers aren&#8217;t biased&#8221;</h2><p>Kirsch makes another assumption that deserves scrutiny:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;my unvaccinated readers aren&#8217;t a biased sample.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><strong>Why would that be true?</strong></p><p>They came from the same readership. They entered through the same voluntary survey. They belong to families that made the relatively unusual decision not to vaccinate their children.</p><p>Nothing about being unvaccinated turns a convenience sample into a representative sample.</p><p>In fact, Kirsch is trying to have it both ways.</p><p>His vaccinated respondents may be unusually enriched for perceived vaccine injuries because of the audience he has attracted. He acknowledges that problem.</p><p>But the unvaccinated respondents drawn from that same audience are then treated as though they provide an unbiased estimate of unvaccinated American children.</p><p>There is no obvious methodological justification for that switch.</p><p>And because the 4.43 calculation depends on treating his unvaccinated subgroup as representative, the assumption matters enormously.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What about the 10-to-1 &#8220;healthier&#8221; result?</h2><p>Kirsch also reports that parents with both vaccinated and unvaccinated children judged the unvaccinated children &#8220;significantly healthier&#8221; by 10 to 1.</p><p>Sibling comparisons can be useful. Siblings share parents, many genetic influences and much of their home environment.</p><p>But this particular comparison has problems of its own.</p><p>&#8220;Significantly healthier&#8221; is a parental judgment, not a predefined clinical endpoint. We need to know what counted as healthier, which conditions were considered, how age differences were handled and whether the assessment was made independently of the parent&#8217;s vaccination beliefs.</p><p>There is also an exposure-order problem.</p><p>Suppose parents vaccinated an older child, something happened that they interpreted as a vaccine injury, and that experience led them to partially vaccinate or completely avoid vaccination in younger siblings.</p><p>The older child&#8217;s health outcome has now influenced the younger child&#8217;s vaccination status.</p><p>That does not make the comparison worthless. It means vaccination status within the family was not assigned independently of previous family health experiences.</p><p>A proper sibling analysis would have to account for birth order, age, changes in parental behavior, and why the vaccination strategy changed.</p><p>A 10-to-1 parental preference cannot do that by itself.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The clinic timing claim deserves the same treatment</h2><p>Kirsch has also pointed to preliminary data from an autism specialty practice.</p><p>In a July 5 article, he reported that vaccination within the previous two days was a &#8220;common factor&#8221; in more than half of cases where parents noticed rapid developmental regression. Kirsch explicitly described the data as preliminary and said the practice was still compiling medical records.</p><p>I have already taken a much closer look at this clinic claim in <strong><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/the-anonymous-autism-clinic-that">The Anonymous Autism Clinic That &#8220;Proved&#8221; Vaccines Cause Autism</a></strong>.</p><p>That earlier investigation matters here because the clinic evidence raises some related problems, along with several of its own. The clinic was not identified, the underlying patient-level data were not released, &#8220;rapid regression&#8221; was not clearly defined, the timing windows changed between Kirsch&#8217;s preliminary and later reports, and no suitable comparison period was provided to show how often regression should be expected to occur near vaccination by chance.</p><p>The clinic analysis also started with children already being seen at an autism specialty practice, identified those classified as rapid-regression cases, and then looked backward for events preceding the regression. That can generate a hypothesis. It cannot tell us the risk of developing autism among vaccinated versus unvaccinated children. There was no comparison with children who did not develop autism and no incidence rate for exposed and unexposed groups.</p><p>As I wrote in that earlier piece, the missing denominator is the problem. Reported regressions after vaccination give us a numerator. To establish excess risk, we also need to know how often regression would be expected during comparable periods when the child had not recently been vaccinated.</p><p>So I am not going to repeat that entire analysis here. The important point is that Kirsch is now using <strong>two different selected datasets</strong> to reinforce the same causal argument: a clinic-based case series and a self-selected survey of his readership.</p><p>One does not correct the weaknesses of the other.</p><p>Two hypothesis-generating observations can make a question more interesting. They do not automatically make the answer more certain.</p><p>There is still a basic problem with the clinic timing claim.</p><p>Before calculating how improbable the reported clustering is, we need the correct expected comparison.</p><p>Developmental regression is strongly age-related. A 2021 systematic review and meta-analysis found a weighted average age of onset of approximately <strong>19.8 months</strong>.</p><p>Childhood vaccination is also concentrated in infancy and the toddler years.</p><p>So the question is not:</p><p><strong>What is the probability that a vaccination would fall within two days of regression if every day from birth through childhood were equally likely?</strong></p><p>They aren&#8217;t equally likely.</p><p>Both events are concentrated during overlapping developmental periods.</p><p>To determine whether the observed clustering exceeds chance expectation, we need the age-specific distribution of vaccination dates and the age-specific distribution of regression onset, along with a clearly defined comparison population or valid within-person comparison.</p><p>That does not prove the clinic pattern is coincidental.</p><p>It means the expected coincidence rate has to be established from the correct baseline before anyone can claim that the observed pattern has a one-in-a-million probability of occurring by chance.</p><p>The denominator matters again.</p><div><hr></div><h3>The $100 bet has no denominator</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png" width="611" height="140" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:140,&quot;width&quot;:611,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:21458,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210467629?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YvUd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a09d4f3-5afe-48d7-b151-75148564c2ae_611x140.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Kirsch has now offered $100 (since upped to$500) to the first person who can find a parent story posted before 2026 describing sudden-onset regressive autism beginning within two days <strong>before</strong> a vaccination appointment.</p><p>It is a clever challenge. It is not a scientific test.</p><p>Kirsch has made this before-versus-after argument for years. He reasons that if vaccines have nothing to do with regression, stories of sudden regression should appear just as often immediately before a vaccination appointment as immediately after one. He has repeatedly argued that he can find many post-vaccination stories and essentially no corresponding pre-vaccination stories.</p><p>The problem is that an internet search cannot tell us the rate of either event.</p><p>Suppose nobody collects the $100. What have we learned?</p><p>We have learned that nobody who saw the challenge found a <strong>publicly searchable story, posted before 2026, matching Kirsch&#8217;s wording and two-day window</strong>.</p><p>We have not learned how many children actually experienced regression in the two days before a scheduled vaccination. We do not know how many parents recognized it at the time, how many wrote about it publicly, how they described it, whether the post was indexed by a search engine, whether the vaccination appointment was subsequently kept, or whether anyone searching for the story used the language that parent happened to use.</p><p><strong><span data-color="#3d85c6" style="color: rgb(61, 133, 198);">There is no denominator</span>.</strong></p><p>And there is a powerful reason the two sides may not generate equal numbers of stories even if the underlying event rates were identical.</p><p>If a parent sees a dramatic change <strong>after</strong> vaccination, the vaccination provides an obvious date and possible explanation: <em>My child received these vaccines Tuesday, and by Thursday something had changed.</em></p><p>If the same developmental change begins on Tuesday and a routine vaccination happens to be scheduled for Thursday, there is no comparable reason for the parent to write: <em>My child suddenly regressed two days before an appointment we happened to have on the calendar.</em></p><p>The first sequence supplies its own narrative hook. The second usually does not. That is selection again.</p><p>But there is an even more important complication.</p><h3>The event can change whether the vaccination happens</h3><p>Kirsch&#8217;s before-versus-after comparison quietly assumes that a vaccination scheduled after the onset of regression will still occur as planned.</p><p>That assumption cannot simply be made.</p><p>Vaccine-safety statisticians deal with this exact problem. It is called <strong>event-dependent exposure</strong>. If a health event changes the probability or timing of a later vaccination, the period immediately before vaccination can become artificially depleted of events. A 2026 <em>Statistics in Medicine</em> paper puts the issue plainly: vaccines may be deferred after a health event, and that deferment can bias comparisons of events before and after vaccination.</p><p>This is not just theoretical. Methodological reviews of vaccine-safety studies have long warned that when an event reduces the probability of subsequent vaccination, estimates of post-vaccination risk can be biased upward because fewer vaccinations will appear after events that occurred first.</p><p>There are real datasets where the effect can actually be seen. In one vaccine-safety analysis, researchers observed a conspicuous <strong>dip in health events immediately before vaccination</strong> because people experiencing the event tended to delay or avoid the upcoming vaccination.</p><p>That matters directly to Kirsch&#8217;s bet.</p><p>Imagine that a child develops a sudden, alarming developmental change two days before a scheduled pediatric visit. The family may call the doctor, change the purpose of the visit, postpone vaccination, or decide not to vaccinate at that appointment. I am not claiming that this happens in every case, or even that we know how often it happens with developmental regression.</p><p>The point is that <strong>Kirsch&#8217;s proposed test assumes it does not happen at all</strong>.</p><p>If regression can affect subsequent vaccination, then asking only about children who actually reached a vaccination event automatically makes &#8220;two days before vaccination&#8221; an unequal comparison with &#8220;two days after vaccination.&#8221;</p><p>The shot itself has become part of the selection process.</p><h3>And one counterexample would prove almost nothing anyway</h3><p>There is another oddity in the bet.</p><p>Suppose someone finds the story tomorrow and collects the $100. Would that demonstrate that vaccines do not contribute to autism?</p><p>Of course not.</p><p>It would establish that at least one child reportedly regressed before vaccination.</p><p>Conversely, failing to find such a story does not establish that vaccination caused the post-vaccination cases. Causation is not decided by whether somebody can win an internet scavenger hunt.</p><p>Kirsch needs rates, not anecdotes:</p><ul><li><p><strong>How many eligible children experienced rapid regression before vaccination? </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>How many after? </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>What was the population at risk during each period? </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Were vaccination dates scheduled independently of the regression? ere appointments postponed after symptoms appeared? </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>How was onset established?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong> Were the before and after windows defined in advance?</strong></p></li></ul><p>Without those answers, the apparent asymmetry may be interesting, but its magnitude is unknown.</p><p>That makes the money challenge another version of the central mistake in this article.</p><p><strong>The absence of a searchable counterexample is being treated as though it were a measured incidence rate.</strong></p><p>It isn&#8217;t.</p><p>And this is worth emphasizing because Kirsch&#8217;s underlying question is legitimate. If rapid developmental regression truly occurs far more often immediately after vaccination than immediately before it, that would be worth investigating carefully.</p><p>But the way to find out is not to offer $100 for a Facebook post.</p><p>It is to define a population, retrieve vaccination dates and developmental histories independently, account for vaccinations that were postponed or cancelled after symptoms began, define the before-and-after windows beforehand, and then count <strong>all</strong> qualifying events on both sides.</p><p>If the asymmetry survives that test, then we have something much more interesting than a bet.</p><p>We have evidence.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Parent recall creates another complication</h2><p>None of this requires accusing parents of dishonesty.</p><p>Research comparing retrospective parent reports of autism onset with prospectively recorded behavior and home videos has found imperfect agreement.</p><p>One study comparing coded home videos with parental reports found poor correspondence between the two methods and concluded that more than two simple onset categories may be needed to describe how autism symptoms emerge. (<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3668453/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed Central (PMC)</a>)</p><p>Another study examined parents&#8217; recollection of onset at two different times. Agreement was relatively low, and approximately one-quarter of parents changed onset classifications between assessments. (<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5832544/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed Central (PMC)</a>)</p><p>Some of these studies actually suggest that parents may <strong>underreport</strong> regression rather than overreport it. That is worth saying because recall bias should not be used as a magic phrase meaning parents are inventing events.</p><p>The important point is narrower.</p><p>Retrospective memory is an imperfect instrument for determining exactly when developmental change began. That becomes especially important when the hypothesis depends on whether an event happened two days, seven days or several weeks after another event.</p><p>A parent can sincerely and accurately remember that something dramatic changed while researchers still have difficulty assigning a precise onset date or developmental trajectory.</p><p>Again, honesty and measurement accuracy are different questions.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Have scientists really refused to study timing?</h2><p>Kirsch argues that autism researchers do not ask when vaccination occurred before symptom onset and therefore never allow themselves to discover a relationship.</p><p>There is a legitimate point underneath that criticism. If a hypothesis concerns a short risk window following an exposure, a study should be capable of examining that window.</p><p>But the broader claim that timing has never been investigated is not accurate.</p><p>The 2019 Danish nationwide cohort study followed <strong>657,461 children</strong> and specifically examined whether MMR vaccination was associated with autism overall, in children considered more susceptible, and during specified periods following vaccination.</p><p>The fully adjusted hazard ratio comparing MMR-vaccinated with MMR-unvaccinated children was <strong>0.93</strong>, with a 95% confidence interval of 0.85 to 1.02. The researchers also reported no consistent evidence of increased autism risk during specified periods after vaccination. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30831578/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed</a>)</p><p>There is an equally important limitation to state.</p><p>That study examined <strong>MMR</strong>.</p><p>It did not compare the complete CDC childhood schedule with children who received no vaccines at all. It cannot answer every hypothesis involving every vaccine, ingredient, combination, timing pattern or proposed vulnerable subgroup.</p><p>Using it to declare that &#8220;every possible vaccine-autism hypothesis has been disproved&#8221; would go beyond the evidence.</p><p>But saying scientists have simply refused to look at timing goes beyond the evidence too.</p><p>The same standard applies in both directions.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What would actually test Kirsch&#8217;s hypothesis?</h2><p>If an effect anywhere near 27X exists, a sufficiently large study with reliable exposure and outcome data should be capable of finding it.</p><p>The population should be defined before researchers know which children developed the outcome. Vaccination histories should come from medical records or registries when possible. Autism diagnoses should be independently established. Regression needs a predefined definition rather than one created after looking at the data.</p><p>Age matters. Birth year matters. Sex, family history, healthcare utilization and socioeconomic differences may matter. So does the fact that families choosing no vaccination may differ from families following the full schedule in ways unrelated to vaccination.</p><p>Vaccination also needs to be treated as something that happens over time. A 15-month-old who is &#8220;partially vaccinated&#8221; today may become &#8220;fully vaccinated&#8221; later. A child whose vaccination stops after developmental concerns emerge creates an entirely different analytical problem from a child whose parents decided before birth to give no vaccines.</p><p>If the hypothesis specifically concerns regression within days of vaccination, then build the study around that question. Establish the expected age-specific rate of regression, define the risk window in advance, document vaccination dates and compare the observed post-vaccination pattern with the correct baseline.</p><p>That is a test.</p><p>And if the effect is real, the study should be allowed to show it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Having a pro-vaccine personality repeat the survey would not fix it</h2><p>Kirsch suggests that the easiest way to assess his bias is for a pro-vaccine journalist or scientist to send the same survey to their own followers.</p><p>I&#8217;d be interested in the result.</p><p>But it wouldn&#8217;t solve the methodological problem.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s audience may disproportionately include families who believe vaccines caused health problems. A strongly pro-vaccine personality&#8217;s audience may disproportionately include people who reject that interpretation.</p><p>One survey could produce 27X and the other 0.2X.</p><p>That would not tell us that the correct answer lies somewhere in the middle. It would show why recruiting subjects from opposing ideological communities is a poor method for estimating population disease risk.</p><p>The cure for one selected sample is not an oppositely selected sample.</p><p>It is a better sample.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kirsch&#8217;s survey is not worthless</h2><p>This distinction matters because criticism of a study too often becomes binary.</p><p>Either the study proves the claim or the study is garbage. Those are not the only choices.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s survey can generate a hypothesis. It can identify experiences that deserve investigation. If a large number of parents independently describe a similar developmental pattern, there is nothing unreasonable about asking whether that pattern survives better measurement.</p><p>If regression appears concentrated after particular vaccination ages or particular products, that can be tested. If partially vaccinated children appear different from fully vaccinated children, researchers can examine actual exposure histories. This is how observational signals become scientific questions.</p><p>But there is a second step.</p><p>The hypothesis has to be given a genuine opportunity to fail.</p><p>A survey drawn from people already unusually interested in a suspected exposure-outcome relationship can be useful for discovering stories and patterns.</p><p>It is much weaker at telling us how common those patterns are among everyone else.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210467629?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sK5N!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c0d604f-7a49-45e6-a090-e8dce097af08_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Before accepting a dramatic risk ratio from any survey, set aside whether you like the conclusion and ask: </p><ul><li><p><strong>Who was eligible to enter the study, and who was especially motivated to participate?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Could participation itself be related to both the exposure and the outcome?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Were exposure and outcome defined independently and consistently?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Were the groups comparable in age, follow-up time and other important characteristics?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Could earlier health events have changed later vaccination decisions?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Was the outcome defined before the results were examined?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Does the calculation actually compare the two groups named in the conclusion?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Would the same number still mean the same thing outside this particular group of respondents? </strong></p></li></ul><p>That seventh question catches the 4.43 calculation immediately.</p><p>There is no vaccinated comparison group in it.</p><p>The first two explain why 27X cannot simply be transported from Kirsch&#8217;s respondents to American children.</p></div><div><hr></div><h2>The point is not that 27X must be wrong</h2><p>This is where discussions like this usually become tribal.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s survey does not tell me the true relative risk. It doesn&#8217;t tell Kirsch either.</p><p>The true association could be zero. It could be positive. A properly designed study might find something unexpected. That uncertainty is not a weakness in the argument. It is the reason we do studies in the first place.</p><p>The problem with 27X is not that the number is necessarily miscalculated. It may accurately describe the respondents who entered Kirsch&#8217;s spreadsheet.</p><p>The problem comes when that number is turned into:</p><p><strong>Vaccinated children are 27 times more likely to develop SORA.</strong></p><p>Those are not the same claim.</p><p>One describes a selected survey sample. The other describes a risk in a population. A study has to earn the move from one to the other.</p><p>This one hasn&#8217;t.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The bigger lesson is the fallacy</h2><p>In the end, this article is not really about Steve Kirsch.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s survey is simply a useful example of a much broader mistake: <strong>taking a result from a selected group and treating it as though it describes the population.</strong></p><p><strong>That is the fallacy.</strong></p><p>The number may be calculated correctly. The respondents may be completely sincere. The spreadsheet may be public. The pattern may even be interesting enough to justify a better study.</p><p>None of that fixes the leap from:</p><p><strong>&#8220;This is what happened among the people who answered my survey.&#8221;</strong></p><p>to:</p><p><strong>&#8220;This is the risk faced by vaccinated children.&#8221;</strong></p><p>Those are different claims, and the second one requires evidence the first one does not provide.</p><p>Selection bias is especially dangerous because it can hide inside perfectly accurate data. We tend to think bad results require bad information. Sometimes they do. But sometimes every answer is truthful and every calculation is correct, while the conclusion is still wrong because the people who supplied the answers were not selected in a way that allows the result to be generalized.</p><p>That is what makes this lesson bigger than vaccines.</p><p>The same mistake can happen in political polling, drug surveys, nutrition studies, customer reviews, social-media polls, disease registries and almost any research built from people who choose whether to participate.</p><p>A dramatic result can make us forget to ask where the sample came from. A result we already agree with can make us even less likely to ask. That is the trap.</p><p>The proper response is not to dismiss Kirsch&#8217;s survey because we dislike its conclusion, nor to accept it because the number is large. The proper response is to ask what the study actually established and stop there.</p><p>Kirsch may have found a pattern worth investigating. He did not establish that vaccinated children face 27 times the risk of regressive autism.</p><p>And that distinction is the entire point.</p><p>Critical thinking is not deciding which side deserves our trust. It is recognizing when the evidence has been asked to carry more weight than it can support.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h3 style="text-align: center;">If this kind of work matters to you</h3><p>If you&#8217;re not already subscribed, you can join <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong> for free and get new articles as they&#8217;re published.</p><p>If you&#8217;re already a subscriber and want to help support the research, fact-checking, and long-form work behind pieces like this, consider becoming a <strong>paid subscriber</strong>.</p><p>Paid support helps keep this work independent and gives me the time to dig deeper, chase down sources, and challenge claims from every side.</p><p><strong>Subscribe free, or upgrade to paid if you&#8217;d like to support the work.</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center;">&#9670; Think Critically &#9670; Follow the Evidence <br>&#9670; Question Everything &#9670; Question Yourself</p></div><div><hr></div><h1>Resources and Further Reading</h1><p><strong>Steve Kirsch, &#8220;The data is clear: the more vaccines you give your child, the more likely it is that they will develop chronic diseases including autism,&#8221; May 31, 2023.</strong> Particularly relevant because Kirsch explicitly argues that criticism of his earlier survey would require showing that parents colluded and lied. (<a href="https://kirschsubstack.com/p/the-data-is-clear-the-more-vaccines?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Kirsch Substack</a>)</p><p><strong>Steve Kirsch, &#8220;Data from a large autism clinic shows over 50% of sudden regression autism happened within 2 days after vaccination,&#8221; July 5, 2026.</strong> Kirsch describes the clinic data as preliminary and reports the temporal clustering claim discussed above. (<a href="https://kirschsubstack.com/p/data-from-a-large-autism-specialty?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Kirsch Substack</a>)</p><p><strong>VJ Mercer, &#8220;The Anonymous Autism Clinic That &#8216;Proved&#8217; Vaccines Cause Autism,&#8221; A Mind Less Wasted, 2026.</strong> A detailed critique of Kirsch&#8217;s clinic-based timing claim, including the unidentified clinic, unavailable patient-level data, changing time windows, unclear regression definitions, and the missing denominator needed to determine whether the reported post-vaccination clustering exceeds what would be expected by chance. (<a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/the-anonymous-autism-clinic-that?utm_source=chatgpt.com">amindlesswasted.substack.com</a>)</p><p><strong>Marcus R. Munaf&#242;, Kate Tilling, Amy E. Taylor, David M. Evans and George Davey Smith, &#8220;Collider scope: when selection bias can substantially influence observed associations,&#8221; International Journal of Epidemiology, 2018. DOI: 10.1093/ije/dyx206.</strong> Explains how selection can create or distort exposure-outcome associations, including when participation itself is influenced by relevant characteristics. (<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/47/1/226/4259077?utm_source=chatgpt.com">OUP Academic</a>)</p><p><strong>Vili Lehdonvirta, Atte Oksanen, Pekka R&#228;s&#228;nen and Grant Blank, &#8220;Social Media, Web, and Panel Surveys: Using Non-Probability Samples in Social and Policy Research,&#8221; Policy &amp; Internet, 2021. DOI: 10.1002/poi3.238.</strong> Examines topical self-selection in web and social-media sampling and compares nonprobability samples with population benchmarks. (<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/poi3.238?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Wiley Online Library</a>)</p><p><strong>Pew Research Center, &#8220;Evaluating Online Nonprobability Surveys,&#8221; 2016, and &#8220;Comparing Two Types of Online Survey Samples,&#8221; 2023.</strong> Useful methodological background on the accuracy and limitations of opt-in survey samples. (<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2023/09/07/comparing-two-types-of-online-survey-samples/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Pew Research Center</a>)</p><p><strong>Christine Tan, Veronica Frewer, Georgina Cox, Katrina Williams and Alexandra Ure, &#8220;Prevalence and Age of Onset of Regression in Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder: A Systematic Review and Meta-analytical Update,&#8221; Autism Research, 2021. DOI: 10.1002/aur.2463.</strong> Reviews 97 studies and finds approximately 30% pooled regression prevalence, while documenting major variation by definition and methodology. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33491292/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed</a>)</p><p><strong>Brian Barger, Jonathan Campbell and Jaimi McDonough, &#8220;Prevalence and Onset of Regression within Autism Spectrum Disorders: A Meta-Analytic Review,&#8221; Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 2013. DOI: 10.1007/s10803-012-1621-x.</strong> Especially relevant because regression estimates differed substantially between population, clinic and parent-survey samples. (<a href="https://eric.ed.gov/?ff1=subInterpersonal+Competence&amp;ff2=souJournal+of+Autism+and+Developmental+Disorders&amp;id=EJ999891&amp;q=regression+%28autism+OR+autistic%29+-descriptor%3A%22regression+analysis%22+-descriptor%3A%22regression+%28statistics%29%22+descriptor%3Aautism&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com">ERIC</a>)</p><p><strong>Gauravi Gawade et al., &#8220;Consensus definition for developmental regression during childhood,&#8221; Developmental Medicine &amp; Child Neurology, 2026. DOI: 10.1111/dmcn.70392.</strong> Provides a recent working consensus definition of developmental regression and illustrates why consistent outcome definitions matter. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42406921/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed</a>)</p><p><strong>Sally Ozonoff and colleagues, research on autism onset and parent recall.</strong> Studies comparing parental reports with home video and repeated recall demonstrate that the classification and timing of regression can vary according to the method used to measure it. (<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3668453/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed Central (PMC)</a>)</p><p><strong>Kelly Shaw et al., CDC Autism and Developmental Disabilities Monitoring Network report, 2025.</strong> Source for the 32.2-per-1,000 prevalence estimate among 8-year-olds across 16 surveillance sites using 2022 data. (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/ss/ss7402a1.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><p><strong>Anders Hviid, J&#248;rgen Vinsl&#248;v Hansen, Morten Frisch and Mads Melbye, &#8220;Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study,&#8221; Annals of Internal Medicine, 2019. DOI: 10.7326/M18-2101.</strong> Nationwide cohort of 657,461 Danish children examining MMR vaccination, autism, susceptible subgroups and specified periods after vaccination. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30831578/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">PubMed</a>)</p><p>#ThinkCritically #FollowTheEvidence #QuestionEverything #QuestionYourself</p><p>This version is stronger because it no longer sounds like it is <strong>trying to win a vaccine argument</strong>. It keeps forcing the discussion back onto Kirsch&#8217;s inference. The two sections I would absolutely not cut are <strong>&#8220;How selection alone can produce 27X&#8221;</strong> and <strong>&#8220;Where did the vaccinated children go?&#8221;</strong> Those are the hardest methodological objections for him to answer.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cognitive Bias: The Mind’s Blind Spots]]></title><description><![CDATA[Why smart people can look at the same evidence, reach opposite conclusions, and both believe they are being rational]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/cognitive-bias-the-minds-blind-spots</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/cognitive-bias-the-minds-blind-spots</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2026 12:01:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hxxs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c776847-f064-4b29-bc98-25010d6ebf3b_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hxxs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c776847-f064-4b29-bc98-25010d6ebf3b_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hxxs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c776847-f064-4b29-bc98-25010d6ebf3b_1672x941.jpeg 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There is something almost comical about <strong>cognitive bias</strong>. Once people learn what it is, they immediately begin finding examples of it in everyone else.</p><p>We see confirmation bias in the person who rejects our evidence. We see motivated reasoning in the person defending the other political party. We see cognitive dissonance when somebody refuses to admit we were right.</p><p>Somehow, we remain the objective one in the room.</p><p>Psychologists actually have a name for this tendency. In 2002, Emily Pronin, Daniel Lin and Lee Ross published a series of studies on what they called the <strong>bias blind spot</strong>. Participants tended to see cognitive and motivational biases more readily in other people than in themselves. </p><p>In one follow-up study, participants who showed a better-than-average bias continued to describe their own assessments as accurate and objective even after reading an explanation of how that bias could have affected them.</p><p>So the title of this article is not merely a joke.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aFUw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc91e1d5f-63f1-47b1-9d6b-3de7d74c727a_622x376.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The study replicated the central self-other asymmetry reported by Pronin, Lin and Ross in 2002.</figcaption></figure></div><p>We really are better at seeing bias in other people.</p><p>That is precisely why the subject matters.</p><p>The useful question is not, &#8220;Which cognitive bias explains why that person disagrees with me?&#8221;</p><p>It is:</p><p><strong>How do I know it isn&#8217;t affecting me?</strong></p><div><hr></div><h2>Bias is not a character flaw</h2><p>Before going any further, we should clear up something important. Cognitive bias does not mean stupidity, dishonesty, or corruption.</p><p>The modern study of judgment under uncertainty owes a great deal to psychologists<strong> Amos Tversky</strong> and <strong>Daniel Kahneman</strong>. In their landmark 1974 paper in <em>Science</em>, they described several mental shortcuts, or heuristics, that people use when making judgments.</p><p>They did not portray these shortcuts as evidence that the human mind is hopelessly defective. In fact, they described heuristics as <strong>&#8220;highly economical and usually effective.&#8221;</strong></p><p>The problem is what comes next. Those same shortcuts can also produce systematic errors. That distinction gets lost when cognitive bias becomes an insult.</p><p>Human beings have to make countless judgments without stopping to perform a statistical analysis. We estimate risk, recognize patterns, decide whom to trust, remember previous experiences, and make quick comparisons. Mental shortcuts are unavoidable and often useful.</p><p>The trouble begins when the shortcut gives us the wrong answer, and we do not realize we have taken one.</p><p>Consider something as simple as a frightening story.</p><p>Suppose three people tell you that they developed the same medical problem shortly after taking a particular treatment. Those stories matter. They may deserve investigation. They may even reveal a real safety signal.</p><p>But the stories alone cannot tell us whether the treatment caused the problem.</p><p>We still need to know how many people received the treatment, how often the condition normally occurs, whether it also occurred among people who did not receive the treatment, whether there are plausible alternative causes, and whether the difference between the groups is larger than we would expect by chance.</p><p>The three stories are easy to remember.</p><p>The denominator is not.</p><p>Tversky and Kahneman studied this general tendency under the <strong>availability heuristic</strong>. Events that come to mind easily can influence our estimates of how common or likely they are. A vivid event can therefore carry more psychological weight than its actual frequency warrants.</p><p>This does not make the event unimportant.</p><p>It means memorable and common are not the same thing.</p><p>That distinction alone would improve a surprising number of arguments on social media.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Confirmation bias can begin before we find the evidence</h2><p>Confirmation bias is probably the best-known cognitive bias, but the usual definition is too simple.</p><p>People often describe it as believing information that agrees with us and rejecting information that does not.</p><p>It can happen that way, but confirmation bias may enter the process much earlier.</p><p>It can begin with the question we type into Google.</p><p>Suppose I become convinced that a particular supplement works. I search for:</p><p>&#8220;Studies showing supplement X works.&#8221;</p><p>I find a paper supporting it. Then another. I find a doctor explaining the biological mechanism. Someone has posted a personal story describing an extraordinary recovery. An X thread contains twelve papers and announces that the &#8220;science is settled.&#8221;</p><p>After an hour, I may have collected an impressive amount of evidence.</p><p>But I have not necessarily conducted an impressive investigation.</p><p>What did I search for?</p><p>Did I deliberately look for good studies finding no benefit? Did I examine the methodology of the studies I liked as aggressively as I would examine a study I disliked? Did I look for failed replications? Did I check whether the outcomes were clinically meaningful? Did I ask how many people took the supplement and experienced absolutely nothing?</p><p>Raymond Nickerson devoted a major 1998 review to confirmation bias and described it as seeking or interpreting evidence in ways that favor existing beliefs, expectations, or a hypothesis already under consideration.</p><p>Notice that the evidence itself does not have to be fake.</p><p>That is an important point.</p><p>A person can collect real studies, real anecdotes, and real statistics and still construct a badly distorted picture if the selection process consistently favors one conclusion.</p><p>This is why dropping twenty links into an argument does not settle anything.</p><p>The relevant questions are still: What do the studies actually show? How good are they? What evidence was left out?</p><h3>A famous experiment, and what it really showed</h3><p>In a classic 1979 study, Charles Lord, Lee Ross and Mark Lepper recruited people who already held strong views about capital punishment. Participants were shown research that appeared to support deterrence and research that appeared to undermine it.</p><p>People tended to judge the research supporting their existing position more favorably and scrutinize the opposing research more critically. After considering the mixed evidence, the opposing groups did not simply converge toward the middle. Their attitudes moved further apart.</p><p>One experiment from 1979 should not carry an entire theory on its back. Fortunately, it does not have to. Nickerson&#8217;s later review examined confirmation bias across a much broader literature.</p><p>Still, the Lord, Ross and Lepper experiment captures something recognizable.</p><p>We can be extremely demanding critics when evidence threatens our beliefs.</p><p>The question is whether we remain equally demanding when the evidence tells us exactly what we hoped to hear.</p><p>A simple test is worth trying:</p><p><strong>Would I find this evidence just as convincing if it supported the opposite conclusion?</strong></p><p>If the answer changes when the conclusion changes, something besides evidence may be influencing the judgment.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Being biased does not automatically make you wrong</h2><p>This is another distinction worth protecting. Bad reasoning can produce a correct answer. </p><p>If I predict rain tomorrow because my knee hurts and it rains, I was right about the weather. My forecasting method is still terrible.</p><p>The reverse is also possible. Someone can reason carefully from incomplete evidence and reach a conclusion that later turns out to be wrong.</p><p>Being correct does not prove that the reasoning was good. Being incorrect does not prove that the reasoning was irrational.</p><p>This matters because accusations of bias are often used as shortcuts themselves.</p><ul><li><p>A scientist receives industry funding, therefore the study is false.</p></li><li><p>A researcher works for the government, therefore the result cannot be trusted.</p></li><li><p>An activist funded the research, therefore it is propaganda.</p></li><li><p>A pharmaceutical company paid for the trial, therefore the drug does not work.</p></li></ul><p>None of those conclusions follows automatically.</p><p>Conflicts of interest matter because they can create incentives and opportunities for bias. They are reasons to examine methods, disclosure, study design, analysis, and replication more closely.</p><p>They are not evidence erasers.</p><p>The same principle applies in the opposite direction. Institutional prestige does not turn weak evidence into strong evidence either.</p><p>Who produced the evidence matters.</p><p>But eventually we still have to examine the evidence.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Cognitive bias and cognitive dissonance are not the same thing</h2><p>These two terms get mixed together constantly.</p><p>They are related, but they describe different things.</p><p><strong>Cognitive bias concerns tendencies in how we process information and make judgments.</strong></p><p><strong>Cognitive dissonance concerns conflict among cognitions, such as beliefs, attitudes, knowledge, or behavior, and the pressure that conflict may create to reduce the inconsistency.</strong></p><p>Leon Festinger developed cognitive dissonance theory in the 1950s. His basic proposal was that inconsistency among important cognitions can be psychologically uncomfortable and can motivate attempts to reduce that inconsistency.</p><p>Imagine that you have defended a position for ten years. You have argued about it publicly. Perhaps you have written articles about it. You have told other people they were wrong.</p><p>Then compelling evidence appears suggesting that you were mistaken.</p><p>Now there are at least two issues.</p><p>There is the evidence itself.</p><p>And there is everything attached to your old position.</p><p>Your previous arguments. Your reputation. The people you dismissed. Maybe an audience. Maybe money. Maybe simply pride.</p><p>Changing your mind is no longer free.</p><p>That is where cognitive dissonance becomes relevant.</p><p>But here is where popular discussions frequently go too far.</p><p>Dissonance does not mean that a person must reject contrary evidence or double down. Reducing inconsistency can happen in different ways. Someone may rationalize the old belief. Someone may discount the new information. Someone may change a behavior.</p><p>Someone may also change the belief.</p><p>In other words, the existence of dissonance does not tell us in advance which path a person will choose.</p><p>Festinger himself warned against turning his theory into an explanation for everything:</p><p><strong>&#8220;It would be unfortunate indeed if the concept of dissonance were used so loosely as to have it encompass everything.&#8221;</strong></p><p>That warning was written in 1957.</p><p>We should probably listen to it.</p><h3>And the research deserves some humility too</h3><p>If we are going to write an article about cognitive bias, it would be rather embarrassing to mention only the famous studies and ignore research that complicates the story.</p><p>Cognitive dissonance theory has produced a large and influential research literature, but some classic experimental approaches have been challenged.</p><p>In 2024, David Vaidis and a large international group of researchers published a multilab replication of the <strong>induced-compliance paradigm</strong>, one of the traditional ways psychologists have studied cognitive dissonance. Across 39 laboratories, 19 countries, and 4,898 participants, the primary analysis failed to reproduce the key high-choice versus low-choice attitude-change effect predicted by that paradigm.</p><p>That does <strong>not</strong> demonstrate that cognitive dissonance does not exist.</p><p>It does mean we should be careful about presenting every classic demonstration as settled fact.</p><p>Other lines of dissonance research have produced stronger results. For example, a 2021 meta-analysis examining improved versions of the &#8220;free-choice&#8221; paradigm found evidence that making choices can alter later preferences even after researchers addressed an important methodological artifact identified in earlier studies.</p><p>So the responsible conclusion is neither &#8220;cognitive dissonance has been debunked&#8221; nor &#8220;seventy years of textbook examples are beyond question.&#8221;</p><p>The evidence is more interesting than either slogan.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Motivated reasoning is another piece of the puzzle</h2><p>There is a third concept that belongs in this discussion: <strong>motivated reasoning</strong>.</p><p>Psychologist Ziva Kunda&#8217;s influential 1990 review proposed that motivation can influence the cognitive strategies people use to access, construct, and evaluate beliefs.</p><p>Her wording is worth reading carefully:</p><p><strong>&#8220;People are more likely to arrive at conclusions that they want to arrive at.&#8221;</strong></p><p>But Kunda did not argue that people can simply believe anything they wish. She emphasized an important constraint. We still tend to need explanations that seem reasonable to us.</p><p>That is what makes motivated reasoning so difficult to recognize from the inside.</p><p>It does not necessarily feel like:</p><p>&#8220;I know the evidence says X, but I am going to pretend it says Y.&#8221;</p><p>It can feel like careful analysis.</p><p>We find the methodological flaw.</p><p>We remember the exception.</p><p>We question the sample.</p><p>We find another expert.</p><p>We reinterpret the statistic.</p><p>Any one of those objections may be perfectly legitimate.</p><p>Again, the pattern matters.</p><p>If every weakness in evidence against my position is fatal while every weakness in evidence supporting my position is merely a limitation, I should probably become curious about that.</p><p>A useful distinction is:</p><p><strong>Bias can influence how I process the evidence. Dissonance describes a conflict among important cognitions. Motivated reasoning can influence how I reason toward a preferred conclusion.</strong></p><p>They overlap.</p><p>They are not synonyms.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Intelligence does not grant immunity</h2><p>One of the more uncomfortable findings in this area concerns intelligence.</p><p>It would be reassuring to think that sufficiently intelligent people eventually reason their way out of these problems.</p><p>Research on what Keith Stanovich and colleagues call <strong>myside bias</strong> makes that difficult to assume.</p><p>Myside bias describes the tendency to evaluate evidence, generate arguments or test hypotheses in ways favorable to one&#8217;s existing views.</p><p>In a 2013 review, Stanovich, Richard West and Maggie Toplak reported that the magnitude of myside bias showed <strong>&#8220;very little relation to intelligence.&#8221;</strong></p><p>That does not mean intelligent people are more biased.</p><p>It means intelligence, at least as measured in the research they reviewed, offered surprisingly little protection against this particular kind of biased reasoning.</p><p>That makes intuitive sense.</p><p>Intelligence gives us better tools.</p><p>Those tools can be used to challenge our beliefs.</p><p>They can also be used to defend them.</p><p>A highly intelligent person may spot methodological weaknesses that everyone else misses. That is valuable. But if those remarkable powers of methodological criticism appear only when the study reaches an unwelcome conclusion, intelligence has not solved the problem.</p><p>It may simply have made the defense more sophisticated.</p><p>This is one reason I do not think skepticism alone qualifies as critical thinking.</p><p>Being skeptical of things you already distrust is easy.</p><p>The harder skill is knowing when to become skeptical of something you desperately want to believe.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Social media complicates the problem, but be careful with the story</h2><p>It is tempting to say that social media creates echo chambers, algorithms trap us inside them, and those bubbles make everyone more polarized.</p><p>There is some truth buried in that story.</p><p>There is also a lot more uncertainty than the usual version admits.</p><p>Social platforms unquestionably allow selective exposure on a scale that was difficult before. We can follow people who think like us, block people who annoy us, join communities organized around particular beliefs and interact repeatedly with information selected partly from our previous behavior.</p><p>Algorithms can influence what we see too.</p><p>But how much that changes our underlying beliefs is a separate question.</p><p>A large 2023 Facebook study found that content from politically like-minded sources made up a majority of what users encountered. Researchers then reduced exposure to like-minded content by about one-third for more than 23,000 users during the 2020 U.S. election.</p><p>The intervention changed what people saw.</p><p>It did <strong>not</strong> produce measurable changes in the eight preregistered attitude measures the researchers examined, including ideological extremity and affective polarization.</p><p>Other research has found effects under different conditions. In a 2021 field experiment, researchers increased Facebook users&#8217; exposure to news from outlets with opposing political viewpoints. That exposure reduced some negative attitudes toward the opposing political party. Interestingly, simply subscribing to opposing-viewpoint outlets was not enough to guarantee exposure, because Facebook&#8217;s algorithm was less likely to show users posts from those sources.</p><p>What should we conclude?</p><p>Probably something less exciting than &#8220;THE ALGORITHM IS BRAINWASHING EVERYONE.&#8221;</p><p>Social media can shape our information environment. Selective exposure is real. Algorithms matter.</p><p>But exposure, belief change, and political polarization are not the same outcome, and the causal relationships among them remain complicated.</p><p>That distinction matters because an article about cognitive bias should not commit the very error it is warning about.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The belief that cannot lose</h2><p>There is one pattern that should make us especially cautious.</p><p>A belief gradually becomes structured so that every possible outcome supports it.</p><p>The prediction comes true? Proof.</p><p>The prediction fails? Someone interfered.</p><p>Evidence appears? Confirmation.</p><p>Evidence does not appear? Cover-up.</p><p>Experts agree? They are protecting the establishment.</p><p>Experts disagree? The science is obviously unsettled.</p><p>A whistleblower speaks? Evidence of the conspiracy.</p><p>No whistleblower speaks? Everyone is afraid.</p><p>The problem is not that any individual explanation is impossible. Sometimes people really do interfere. Evidence really can be hidden. Experts can have conflicts. Institutions can behave badly.</p><p>The problem appears when <strong>no conceivable observation is allowed to count against the belief</strong>.</p><p>At that point we should ask:</p><p><strong>What would prove this wrong?</strong></p><p>If there is no answer, the belief is no longer being meaningfully tested.</p><p>It is being protected.</p><p>This question applies equally well to conventional beliefs and unconventional ones. Institutional consensus can become dogmatic. Anti-establishment thinking can become dogmatic. Skepticism itself can become dogmatic.</p><p>Nobody gets an exemption simply because he calls himself a skeptic.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Can we do anything about our biases?</h2><p>Knowing the names of cognitive biases does not make them disappear.</p><p>In fact, the bias-blind-spot research suggests there is an obvious danger here. Learning about bias may simply give us a more sophisticated vocabulary for explaining why everyone else is irrational.</p><p>There are, however, ways to improve the process.</p><p>One particularly simple method has experimental support. In a 1984 study, Charles Lord, Mark Lepper and Elizabeth Preston asked people to <strong>consider the opposite</strong>, deliberately thinking about how the alternative conclusion might be true. This reduced bias in the social judgments they studied.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png" width="702" height="372" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:372,&quot;width&quot;:702,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:35418,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210265397?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GHh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7800d2ef-efb5-415f-b486-88afee1fffa0_702x372.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Lord, Lepper and Preston's Table 1 reports differences between how convincing participants found the pro-deterrence and anti-deterrence studies. For proponents, the difference was <strong>2.9, 3.2 and 1.0</strong> in the replication, &#8220;be unbiased,&#8221; and &#8220;consider the opposite&#8221; conditions. For opponents, it was <strong>&#8722;1.0, &#8722;3.5 and &#8722;0.2</strong>. Those are exactly the figures we used.</figcaption></figure></div><p>I like that approach because it is more demanding than saying &#8220;keep an open mind.&#8221;</p><p>Actually try to make the opposing case.</p><ul><li><p>If I think a treatment works, what would the evidence look like if it did not?</p></li><li><p>If I think a study is fraudulent, what evidence would convince me that it was legitimate?</p></li><li><p>If I believe an institution is lying, what evidence would count as evidence that it is telling the truth?</p></li><li><p>If I trust an institution, what would make me withdraw that trust?</p></li></ul><p>If my answer to the question is always &#8220;nothing,&#8221; then the problem is no longer lack of information.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210265397?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ECpc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bfd8d1-7e58-4f92-a7fa-0303ec3a8f18_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><p>There is an irony in reading about cognitive bias. Most of us immediately start thinking about the people who need to read the article.</p><p>That person on X. That relative. That friend who refuses to look at the evidence.</p><p>For a moment, leave them out of it.</p><p>Ask yourself a harder set of questions.</p><ul><li><p>Would I find this evidence just as convincing if it supported the opposite conclusion?</p></li><li><p>Do I scrutinize evidence I dislike more aggressively than evidence that supports what I already believe?</p></li><li><p>Did I read the actual study, or am I relying on somebody else&#8217;s description of it?</p></li><li><p>Do I know the denominator, or do I only know the stories?</p></li><li><p>Have I ever deliberately searched for the strongest evidence against my position?</p></li></ul><p>And most important:</p><ul><li><p><strong>What evidence would actually change my mind?</strong></p></li></ul><p>There is one more question worth asking because it may explain why that one can be so difficult:</p><p><strong>What would it cost me to be wrong?</strong></p><p>Sometimes the answer is almost nothing. You change your mind and move on.</p><p>Other times there is more attached to the belief than we realize. Reputation. Friends. An audience. Political identity. Money. Years spent arguing the point. Maybe just the embarrassment of admitting that someone you dismissed had a better argument than you did.</p><p>None of that tells you that your belief is false.</p><p>But it does tell you something important: you may have reasons to want it to remain true.</p><p>And once we have something invested in a belief, we should probably examine it a little more carefully.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Question everything includes yourself</h2><p>The goal is not to become perfectly unbiased.</p><p>That is fantasy.</p><p>The goal is to make it harder for our biases to operate unnoticed.</p><p>This is one reason serious research uses tools such as control groups, randomization, blinding, preregistration, replication, and transparent methods. Different methods address different problems, and none removes every source of bias. They exist because simply telling researchers to &#8220;be objective&#8221; is not enough.</p><p>The same principle applies to the rest of us.</p><p>Do not merely promise yourself that you will be fair.</p><p>Build habits that make unfair reasoning easier to catch.</p><p>Look for the missing comparison.</p><p>Check the denominator.</p><p>Read the strongest opposing argument.</p><p>Consider the opposite.</p><p>Decide what evidence would change your mind before you see the result.</p><p>Do not move the evidentiary goalposts when the result becomes uncomfortable.</p><p>And when you discover that you were wrong, say so.</p><p>There may be no better evidence that critical thinking is actually taking place.</p><p>Because cognitive bias is not something that happens only to conspiracy theorists, politicians, journalists, scientists, activists, experts, anti-vaxxers, pro-vaxxers, liberals, conservatives, religious people, atheists or that annoying person arguing with you on X.</p><p>It is part of human reasoning.</p><p>Which means the four words <strong>Question Everything</strong> are incomplete by themselves.</p><p>The harder part is the fourth principle.</p><p><strong>Question Yourself.</strong></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If you find this kind of evidence-first thinking useful, consider subscribing to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>.</p><p>The goal here is not to tell you what to think. It is to get better at examining claims, questioning assumptions, and noticing when our own reasoning may be getting in the way.</p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>#ThinkCritically #FollowTheEvidence <br>#QuestionEverything #QuestionYourself</strong></p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Sources and further reading</h2><p>Tversky, A., &amp; Kahneman, D. (1974). &#8220;Judgment under Uncertainty: Heuristics and Biases.&#8221; <em>Science</em>, 185(4157), 1124&#8211;1131. DOI: 10.1126/science.185.4157.1124.</p><p>Nickerson, R. S. (1998). &#8220;Confirmation Bias: A Ubiquitous Phenomenon in Many Guises.&#8221; <em>Review of General Psychology</em>, 2(2), 175&#8211;220. DOI: 10.1037/1089-2680.2.2.175.</p><p>Pronin, E., Lin, D. Y., &amp; Ross, L. (2002). &#8220;The Bias Blind Spot: Perceptions of Bias in Self Versus Others.&#8221; <em>Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin</em>, 28(3), 369&#8211;381. DOI: 10.1177/0146167202286008.</p><p>Seda, L., Martins, I. T. C., Lisb&#244;a, T. L. R. de C., Batistuzzo, M. C., &amp; Fatori, D. (2024). &#8220;Theoretical Maturation of the &#8216;Bias Blind Spot&#8217;: A Preregistered Replication Study of Pronin, Lin, and Ross (2002) in a Brazilian Sample.&#8221; <em>Collabra: Psychology</em>, 10(1), 122158. DOI: 10.1525/collabra.122158.</p><p>Lord, C. G., Ross, L., &amp; Lepper, M. R. (1979). &#8220;Biased Assimilation and Attitude Polarization: The Effects of Prior Theories on Subsequently Considered Evidence.&#8221; <em>Journal of Personality and Social Psychology</em>, 37(11), 2098&#8211;2109. DOI: 10.1037/0022-3514.37.11.2098.</p><p>Lord, C. G., Lepper, M. R., &amp; Preston, E. (1984). &#8220;Considering the Opposite: A Corrective Strategy for Social Judgment.&#8221; <em>Journal of Personality and Social Psychology</em>, 47(6), 1231&#8211;1243. DOI: 10.1037/0022-3514.47.6.1231.</p><p>Kunda, Z. (1990). &#8220;The Case for Motivated Reasoning.&#8221; <em>Psychological Bulletin</em>, 108(3), 480&#8211;498. DOI: 10.1037/0033-2909.108.3.480.</p><p>Stanovich, K. E., West, R. F., &amp; Toplak, M. E. (2013). &#8220;Myside Bias, Rational Thinking, and Intelligence.&#8221; <em>Current Directions in Psychological Science</em>, 22(4), 259&#8211;264. DOI: 10.1177/0963721413480174.</p><p>Festinger, L. (1957). <em>A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance</em>. Stanford University Press.</p><p>Enisman, M., Shpitzer, H., &amp; Kleiman, T. (2021). &#8220;Choice Changes Preferences, Not Merely Reflects Them: A Meta-Analysis of the Artifact-Free Free-Choice Paradigm.&#8221; <em>Journal of Personality and Social Psychology</em>, 120(1), 16&#8211;29. DOI: 10.1037/pspa0000263.</p><p>Vaidis, D. C., Sleegers, W. W. A., van Leeuwen, F., et al. (2024). &#8220;A Multilab Replication of the Induced-Compliance Paradigm of Cognitive Dissonance.&#8221; <em>Advances in Methods and Practices in Psychological Science</em>, 7(1). DOI: 10.1177/25152459231213375.</p><p>Levy, R. (2021). &#8220;Social Media, News Consumption, and Polarization: Evidence from a Field Experiment.&#8221; <em>American Economic Review</em>, 111(3), 831&#8211;870. DOI: 10.1257/aer.20191777.</p><p>Nyhan, B., et al. (2023). &#8220;Like-Minded Sources on Facebook Are Prevalent but Not Polarizing.&#8221; <em>Nature</em>, 620, 137&#8211;144. DOI: 10.1038/s41586-023-06297-w.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[RFK Jr. Won the Interview. Did He Win the Evidence?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Kennedy made Dana Bash look unprepared. Then his own claims were checked.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/rfk-bash-cnn-cite-me-one-study</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/rfk-bash-cnn-cite-me-one-study</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 16:52:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fhBw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b3afef-8329-4567-a6cc-dfbff3479b6b_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fhBw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b3afef-8329-4567-a6cc-dfbff3479b6b_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fhBw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b3afef-8329-4567-a6cc-dfbff3479b6b_1672x941.jpeg 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Kennedy Jr. found Dana Bash&#8217;s weak spot almost immediately.</p><p>&#8220;Cite me the study.&#8221;</p><p>He said it again. And again.</p><p>It worked.</p><p>Bash stated the broad scientific case. COVID vaccines reduced deaths. Studies found benefits for children. Vaccines and autism have been examined for decades.</p><p>But stating the conclusion is not the same as being ready to defend it on live television.</p><p>When Kennedy asked for names, papers, and specifics, Bash had none at hand. She kept saying the studies existed without being able to identify one.</p><p>That made her look unprepared. Worse, it made her look as though she was repeating something she had been told but had never examined herself.</p><p>Kennedy did not just challenge Bash. He bashed Bash.</p><p>He kept her on the defensive, pressed every hesitation, and turned her inability to name a study into the defining moment of the interview.</p><p>Kennedy looked confident. He knew how to use his material and controlled most of the exchange.</p><p>For a few minutes, he appeared to have won.</p><p>But then I checked the claims.</p><p>That is where the interview begins to look very different.</p><p>Bash was often vague, occasionally sloppy, and badly prepared for the questions Kennedy was certain to ask. But many of the conclusions she struggled to defend were supported by substantial evidence.</p><p>Kennedy had the better performance. He also made claim after claim that did not survive scrutiny.</p><p>Some were accurate. Some contained a piece of truth stretched much further than the evidence allowed. Others were simply unsupported or false.</p><p>And that is what made this interview worth examining.</p><p>Not because CNN was right about everything. It wasn&#8217;t.</p><p>Not because Kennedy was wrong about everything. He wasn&#8217;t.</p><p>It was worth examining because it showed how easily a strong performance can be mistaken for a strong argument.</p><p>Bash often had the better evidence and could not explain it.</p><p>Kennedy explained himself far better, but frequently claimed more than the evidence could support.</p><p>On television, the second person usually looks like the winner.</p><p>The facts are not impressed.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Bash got some important things right</h2><p>Bash was right about several of the larger points.</p><p>The United States did not have the highest COVID death rate of every country in the world. Kennedy made that claim, then backed away from it when Bash challenged him.</p><p>She was also right that COVID vaccination reduced severe illness, hospitalizations, and deaths. One published analysis estimated that at least 232,000 deaths among unvaccinated American adults might have been prevented over 15 months.</p><p>Then Kennedy asked her to name a study showing that COVID vaccination did more good than harm for children.</p><p>She couldn&#8217;t name one.</p><p>That was a bad moment for Bash. She stated the conclusion, but she was not ready to support it with a specific paper when challenged.</p><p>Still, her failure to name a study did not mean the studies did not exist.</p><p>She was broadly right about measles too. Cases have risen sharply, and outbreaks are concentrated among people who are unvaccinated or have unknown vaccination status. Two doses of the MMR vaccine are about 97 percent effective at preventing measles.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png" width="966" height="975" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:975,&quot;width&quot;:966,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:76262,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210092387?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XgGO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7dfc47a-0987-4a5d-929e-f8b6c4e42819_966x975.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Confirmed U.S. measles cases reported to the CDC. The 2026 total had already surpassed the full-year 2025 count by July 30. The 2025 and 2026 figures are preliminary.</figcaption></figure></div><p>She was also right that the evidence does not support vaccines as a cause of autism. The World Health Organization reaffirmed that conclusion in its 2025 review, and the National Academies has reached the same conclusion.</p><p>But Bash did herself no favors by overstating parts of the case.</p><p>She said roughly 93 percent of measles cases were among the unvaccinated. But CDC&#8217;s national dashboard combines confirmed unvaccinated cases with cases where vaccination status is unknown. That does not overturn the larger pattern, but she should have described the data accurately.</p><p>She also connected an estimate of 100,000 to 200,000 preventable COVID deaths directly to vaccine disinformation.</p><p>The evidence supports the claim that many deaths were associated with remaining unvaccinated. It does not prove that misinformation was the reason every one of those people declined vaccination.</p><p>Those were real weaknesses.</p><p>A fact-check that ignores them would not be much of a fact-check.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kennedy made much larger claims with much less evidence</h2><p>Kennedy demanded precision from Bash. He was far less demanding of himself.</p><p>He said COVID &#8220;clearly&#8221; came from gain-of-function research.</p><p><strong>It did not clearly come from gain-of-function research.</strong></p><p>The origin of SARS-CoV-2 is still unresolved. In our earlier fact-check, <strong><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/did-covid-19-come-from-a-lab">Did COVID-19 Come from a Lab?</a></strong>, we examined the evidence for both zoonotic spillover and a laboratory-related origin. The World Health Organization&#8217;s 2025 assessment said the available evidence leans toward zoonotic spillover, while also acknowledging that a laboratory-related incident cannot be ruled out because important information is still missing.</p><p>That is an unresolved question.</p><p>Kennedy presented it as a solved one.</p><p>He then said the RSV epidemic came from the same kind of laboratory research and called RSV the biggest killer of children in the country.</p><p>Neither claim holds up.</p><p>RSV is serious. It sends many infants to the hospital and causes an estimated 100 to 300 deaths each year among children under five.</p><p>But it is not the leading cause of childhood death in the United States, and there is no credible evidence that it originated in gain-of-function research.</p><p>Kennedy made a similar claim about Lyme disease, saying it &#8220;almost certainly&#8221; came from this kind of research.</p><p>He offered no evidence for that either.</p><p>Then came the claim that doctors had treated thousands of COVID patients with no deaths and that millions of lives might have been saved had officials listened to them.</p><ul><li><p>Which doctors?</p></li><li><p>Which treatments?</p></li><li><p>What ages were the patients?</p></li><li><p>How sick were they?</p></li><li><p>How long were they followed?</p></li><li><p>What happened in a comparable group that did not receive the treatment?</p></li></ul><p>Kennedy did not say.</p><p>A doctor can treat a large number of low-risk patients and report very few deaths. That does not prove the treatment saved them. Most younger and healthier people survived COVID regardless of what they were prescribed.</p><p>Without a valid comparison group, the claim tells us almost nothing. This was the contradiction running through the interview. Kennedy demanded studies, names, and precise evidence from Bash. When it came to his own claims, anecdotes and assertions were apparently enough.</p><p>That is not skepticism applied consistently.</p><p>It is skepticism aimed in only one direction.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The &#8220;cite one study&#8221; trap</h2><p>Asking for a study is good critical thinking.</p><p>It becomes a debate trick when the request is used in one of four ways.</p><p>First, the challenger may define the acceptable evidence so narrowly that nearly all existing research is excluded.</p><p>Second, the challenger may treat another person&#8217;s inability to recall a citation instantly as evidence that no citation exists.</p><p>Third, the challenger may demand flawless evidence from opponents while accepting weak evidence for his own position.</p><p>Fourth, when a study is eventually produced, the challenger may move the goalposts by demanding a different population, outcome, vaccine, ingredient, time period, or study design.</p><p>Kennedy&#8217;s exchange with Bash contains several of these features.</p><p>He asked whether one study showed that COVID vaccination did more good than harm in children. That is not a single, simple question. The answer depends on age, sex, prior infection, circulating variant, dose number, the outcome being measured, and the time period studied.</p><p>A study might show fewer hospitalizations without answering every question about myocarditis. Another might examine infection but not mortality. A third might apply to adolescents but not toddlers. Scientific evidence often consists of multiple studies answering different parts of a larger question.</p><p>Demanding a single perfect paper that addresses every dimension is not a realistic standard. It is a rhetorical standard designed to be difficult to satisfy in real time.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kennedy narrowed the autism question</h2><p>The autism exchange followed the same pattern.</p><p>Bash said vaccines and autism had been studied extensively.</p><p>Kennedy responded with a much narrower claim. He said the first eight vaccines given during the first six months of life had not each been studied separately for a connection to autism. He then argued that most of the research involved either MMR or thimerosal.</p><p>That sounds like a direct rebuttal.</p><p>It isn&#8217;t.</p><p>Bash was talking about the broader question: Do vaccines cause autism?</p><p>Kennedy shifted the discussion to a narrower question: Has each of the vaccines administered during the first six months been studied individually in relation to autism? Those are not the same question.</p><p>The broader issue has been studied in many ways. Researchers have examined MMR, thimerosal, vaccine timing, ingredients, cumulative exposure, vaccination records, and autism diagnoses across large populations. There have been cohort studies, case-control studies, systematic reviews, and meta-analyses.</p><p>The National Academies concluded that the evidence does not support a causal relationship between MMR and autism or between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism. WHO&#8217;s updated review reached the same overall conclusion after examining research published through 2025.</p><p>Kennedy could have made a narrower and more defensible point:</p><p>Some individual vaccines have less direct autism-specific research than others. That would be fair.</p><p>But that is not where he stopped. He used the narrower gap to cast doubt on the much larger body of evidence.</p><p>The argument works like this:</p><p>Not every early-childhood vaccine has the same amount of direct autism-specific research.</p><p>Therefore, we cannot say vaccines do not cause autism.</p><p>But research does not require every imaginable version of a question to be tested one at a time before a broader conclusion can be reached.</p><p>Evidence can come from several directions at once. Researchers can examine timing, ingredients, dose exposure, biological plausibility, population trends, and specific vaccines. When those different lines of evidence point in the same direction, they matter.</p><p>A narrow gap does not cancel the evidence already on the table.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Research gaps are not proof of harm</h2><p>Kennedy repeatedly treated unanswered questions as though they favored his explanation.</p><p>They do not.</p><p>Suppose a specific vaccine has not been studied in exactly the age group, schedule, subgroup, and outcome someone asks about.</p><p>The honest conclusion is simple:</p><blockquote><p>That exact question is still uncertain. It does not follow that the vaccine may be causing autism. It certainly does not follow that the larger body of evidence is wrong.</p></blockquote><p>&#8220;Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence&#8221; is true.</p><p>But people often stop there.</p><p>The other half matters just as much:</p><p>Absence of evidence is not evidence for the explanation we happen to prefer.</p><p>A research gap is a gap.</p><p>It is not a finding.</p><p>And uncertainty does not automatically belong to the person making the more alarming claim.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Tylenol claim had the same problem</h2><p>Kennedy said there were 73 studies linking Tylenol use during pregnancy or around birth to autism.</p><p>That sounds overwhelming.</p><p>But a large number of studies does not automatically mean a strong body of evidence.</p><p>Some observational studies have found an association between prenatal acetaminophen use and later neurodevelopmental diagnoses. The problem is that pregnant women do not take Tylenol at random. They take it for fever, infection, inflammation, pain, and other medical reasons.</p><p>Any of those factors could help explain the association.</p><p>A large study published in <em>JAMA</em> looked at nearly 2.5 million children. When researchers compared siblings within the same families, the apparent link disappeared.</p><p>That suggests the earlier association may have been driven by family, health, or genetic factors rather than Tylenol itself.</p><p>Kennedy presented a mixed and heavily confounded body of research as though it had already identified a likely culprit. The evidence was not strong enough to support that conclusion.</p><p>An association may justify more research. It does not justify announcing a culprit.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Kennedy was right about some things</h2><p>Kennedy was not wrong about everything.</p><p>The lockdowns caused real damage. Businesses closed. Children lost time in school. Families were isolated. Civil liberties were restricted, sometimes with very little debate.</p><p>He was also right that the pandemic disrupted routine childhood vaccination. Many children missed scheduled doses, and those gaps helped create the conditions for later measles outbreaks.</p><p>He was right that the measles problem is not limited to the United States. Other countries have seen major outbreaks as well. And when Bash finally asked him directly whether parents should vaccinate their children against measles, Kennedy said yes.</p><p>That answer was correct.</p><p>Two doses of the MMR vaccine are about 97 percent effective at preventing measles.</p><p>Kennedy was also right about something larger.</p><p>Journalists should not simply repeat what experts tell them. They should understand the evidence well enough to explain it, especially when interviewing someone certain to challenge them.</p><p>Bash should have been better prepared.</p><p>But her poor preparation did not make Kennedy&#8217;s unsupported claims true.</p><div><hr></div><h2>So, who won?</h2><p>Kennedy won the interview.  At least, he won it on television.</p><p>He did not win the evidence.</p><p>That should not be surprising. Kennedy is a lawyer, and he used a lawyer&#8217;s skill set. He controlled the frame, narrowed the questions, exposed weak answers, and kept pressing whenever Bash hesitated. He did not have to prove every one of his own claims in that moment. He only had to make her look uncertain.</p><p>That is a skill.</p><p>Bash made his job easier than it should have been.</p><p>She relied too often on &#8220;studies show&#8221; without being able to name the studies or explain what they actually found. She overstated some of the data. And each time she struggled, Kennedy treated that struggle as evidence that the research did not exist.</p><p>That was a failure of preparation. </p><p>But a successful cross-examination does not settle the facts. Those can still be checked afterward. </p><ul><li><p>COVID vaccines did reduce severe illness and death.</p></li><li><p>Studies did find benefits for children, although those benefits varied by age, risk, prior infection, and the variant circulating at the time.</p></li><li><p>The United States did not have the highest COVID death rate in the world.</p></li><li><p>SARS-CoV-2 has not been proved to have come from gain-of-function research.</p></li><li><p>RSV and Lyme disease have not been shown to have originated in laboratory experiments.</p></li><li><p>RSV is not the leading killer of American children.</p></li><li><p>Vaccines have been studied in relation to autism far more broadly than Kennedy suggested.</p></li><li><p>And the evidence does not support vaccines as a cause of autism.</p></li></ul><p>So yes, Kennedy had the better performance. He controlled the interview. He made Bash look unprepared.</p><p>But once the claims are checked, the advantage starts to disappear.</p><p>Kennedy won the exchange.</p><p>He did not win the evidence.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The lesson</h2><p>The lesson is not that we should stop asking for studies. We should ask more often. But &#8220;<strong>cite one study</strong>&#8221; is the beginning of critical thinking, not the end.</p><p>Once a study is cited, we still have to ask:</p><ul><li><p>What population did it examine?</p></li><li><p>What outcome did it measure?</p></li><li><p>Was there a valid comparison group?</p></li><li><p>How large was the effect?</p></li><li><p>Could confounding explain it?</p></li><li><p>Has it been replicated?</p></li><li><p>How does it fit with the rest of the evidence?</p></li></ul><p>A citation can support a claim. It can also be irrelevant, weak, misrepresented, or contradicted by better research.</p><p>The goal is not merely to demand evidence.</p><p>The goal is to understand what the evidence actually shows.</p><p>That is much harder than winning an interview.</p><p>It is also far more important.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/210092387?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pnfl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817defd4-1323-44f5-9723-8840404818d0_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Before deciding who &#8220;won&#8221; a scientific argument, ask yourself:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Am I judging the evidence, or the performance?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Did the speaker produce evidence for the claim, or merely demand it from someone else?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Is uncertainty being acknowledged, or being converted into support for a preferred conclusion?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Would I accept the same quality of evidence if it supported the opposing side?</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Did the speaker answer the original question, or narrow it until a different answer became easier to defend?</strong></p></li></ul><p>A confident challenge may expose weak preparation.</p><p>It does not automatically establish the challenger&#8217;s claim.</p><p><em>Checkpoint is where we pause the argument and question our own reasoning before moving forward.</em></p></div><div><hr></div><p><em>Enjoyed this article? 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Paid subscriptions help fund the time-intensive research and fact-checking that articles like this require.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p style="text-align: center;">#ThinkCritically #FollowTheEvidence <br>#QuestionEverything #QuestionYourself</p><div><hr></div><h1>Resources</h1><h3><a href="https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/sotu/date/2026-08-02/segment/01">CNN: Full RFK Jr.&#8211;Dana Bash Interview Transcript</a></h3><p>The official CNN transcript is the primary source for Kennedy&#8217;s and Bash&#8217;s statements during the August 2, 2026 interview. (<a href="https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/sotu/date/2026-08-02/segment/01?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CNN Transcripts</a>)</p><h3><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html">CDC: Measles Cases and Outbreaks</a></h3><p>Current U.S. measles case totals, outbreak information, vaccination-status data, and historical comparisons. (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><h3><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7315a2.htm">CDC: COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Against Hospitalization in Children and Adolescents</a></h3><p>This study found that vaccination was 52% effective against pediatric COVID-19 hospitalization and 57% effective against critical illness when the most recent dose had been received within the previous four months. Protection declined over time.</p><h3><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/index.html">CDC: About Measles</a></h3><p>Information about measles transmission, complications, prevention, and MMR effectiveness. Two doses are approximately 97 percent effective, while one dose is approximately 93 percent effective. (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/index.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><h3><a href="https://www.who.int/news/item/11-12-2025-who-expert-group-s-new-analysis-reaffirms-there-is-no-link-between-vaccines-and-autism">WHO: Expert Review Reaffirms No Link Between Vaccines and Autism</a></h3><p>WHO&#8217;s December 2025 summary of its updated evidence review, which found no causal link between vaccines and autism spectrum disorders. (<a href="https://www.who.int/news/item/11-12-2025-who-expert-group-s-new-analysis-reaffirms-there-is-no-link-between-vaccines-and-autism?utm_source=chatgpt.com">World Health Organization</a>)</p><p><strong>Full WHO evidence review:</strong><br><a href="https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/medicines/pharmacovigilance/rev1_vaccines-autism-and-asd-evidence-review-2010-2025_12-dec7ab84d63-5110-4b2c-9882-19651446b8cd.pdf">Vaccines, Thimerosal and Autism Spectrum Disorder: Evidence Review 2010&#8211;2025</a></p><h3><a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/statement-on-cdc-s-changes-to-guidance-on-vaccines-and-autism">National Academies: Statement on Vaccines and Autism</a></h3><p>The National Academies&#8217; current statement explaining that the scientific evidence does not support vaccines as a cause of autism. (<a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/statement-on-cdc-s-changes-to-guidance-on-vaccines-and-autism?utm_source=chatgpt.com">National Academies</a>)</p><p><strong>Full National Academies evidence review:</strong><br><a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/publications/10997">Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism</a> (<a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/publications/10997?utm_source=chatgpt.com">National Academies</a>)</p><h3><a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406">JAMA: Acetaminophen Use During Pregnancy and Children&#8217;s Risk of Autism, ADHD, and Intellectual Disability</a></h3><p>A nationwide study of 2,480,797 children. The apparent associations disappeared in sibling-controlled analyses, suggesting that earlier signals may have resulted from familial or other confounding factors. (<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406?utm_source=chatgpt.com">JAMA Network</a>)</p><h3><a href="https://www.who.int/news/item/27-06-2025-who-scientific-advisory-group-issues-report-on-origins-of-covid-19">WHO: Scientific Advisory Group Report on the Origins of COVID-19</a></h3><p>WHO&#8217;s June 2025 summary states that the weight of available evidence favors zoonotic spillover, while acknowledging that important information remains unavailable. (<a href="https://www.who.int/news/item/27-06-2025-who-scientific-advisory-group-issues-report-on-origins-of-covid-19?utm_source=chatgpt.com">World Health Organization</a>)</p><p><strong>Full WHO report:</strong><br><a href="https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/independent-assessment-of-the-origins-of-sars-cov-2-from-the-scientific-advisory-group-for-the-origins-of-novel-pathogens">Independent Assessment of the Origins of SARS-CoV-2</a> (<a href="https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/independent-assessment-of-the-origins-of-sars-cov-2-from-the-scientific-advisory-group-for-the-origins-of-novel-pathogens?utm_source=chatgpt.com">World Health Organization</a>)</p><h3><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/infants-young-children/index.html">CDC: RSV in Infants and Young Children</a></h3><p>CDC information about RSV&#8217;s risks to infants and young children, including its importance as a cause of infant hospitalization. (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/infants-young-children/index.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><p><strong>CDC burden estimates:</strong><br><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/php/surveillance/about-burden-estimates.html">How CDC Estimates the Burden of RSV</a> (<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/php/surveillance/about-burden-estimates.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC</a>)</p><h3><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37093505/">Preventable COVID-19 Deaths Among Unvaccinated Adults</a></h3><p>The study estimated that at least 232,000 deaths among unvaccinated U.S. adults might have been prevented during the 15-month study period had they been vaccinated. (<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37093505/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov</a>)</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Jikkyleaks Under the Microscope: Real Questions, Unproven Verdicts]]></title><description><![CDATA[A fact-check of the claims, methods, and certainty behind one of X&#8217;s most influential anonymous COVID accounts]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/jikkyleaks-under-the-microscope</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/jikkyleaks-under-the-microscope</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 23:26:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10I4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd763422d-d59e-4835-b9f5-479cf0727328_1672x941.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10I4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd763422d-d59e-4835-b9f5-479cf0727328_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10I4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd763422d-d59e-4835-b9f5-479cf0727328_1672x941.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10I4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd763422d-d59e-4835-b9f5-479cf0727328_1672x941.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10I4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd763422d-d59e-4835-b9f5-479cf0727328_1672x941.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10I4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd763422d-d59e-4835-b9f5-479cf0727328_1672x941.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10I4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd763422d-d59e-4835-b9f5-479cf0727328_1672x941.jpeg" width="1456" height="819" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Jikkyleaks presents itself as a scientific whistleblower. Its X profile describes its posts as &#8220;public interest disclosures&#8221; and prominently displays the hashtag <strong>#Modernagate</strong> and the 19-nucleotide sequence <strong>CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG</strong>.</p><p>The account has built a large audience by publishing allegations about the origin of COVID-19, vaccine development, regulatory failures and scientific misconduct.</p><p>Those claims deserve to be examined carefully.</p><p>This article is not an attempt to identify the anonymous person or people behind the account. It also does not assume that every question Jikkyleaks raises is illegitimate. Some of the subjects it covers deserve serious scrutiny, including risky coronavirus research, government transparency, vaccine manufacturing standards and recognized vaccine injuries.</p><p>The question here is more focused:</p><p><strong>Does the evidence Jikkyleaks presents support the certainty of its conclusions?</strong></p><p>In several important cases, it does not.</p><p>The recurring problem is not always the original observation. It is the leap from observation to conclusion. A real document becomes proof of a covert operation. A genuine sequence match becomes proof of engineering. A disputed laboratory measurement becomes evidence of widespread harm. An unusual-looking image becomes fraud. A plausible hypothesis becomes a solved case.</p><p>That is not careful investigation.</p><p>It is certainty outrunning the evidence.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Disclosure</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z-5E!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa52ce37a-d3e0-4eff-b0bb-842608679d9d_504x275.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z-5E!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa52ce37a-d3e0-4eff-b0bb-842608679d9d_504x275.jpeg 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Jikkyleaks has blocked <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong> on X, even though we have never replied to, tagged, quoted or otherwise interacted with the account.</p><p>Because its posts are public, the block has not stopped us from reading and reviewing them. We do not know why we were blocked, and the decision has no bearing on whether any scientific claim is true or false.</p><p>We disclose it because readers should know about anything that might affect our perspective. The claims in this article are judged on public posts, primary documents and published scientific evidence, not speculation about the identity, motives or character of the person behind the account.</p><div><hr></div><h1>What Jikkyleaks Gets Right</h1><p>Before getting into what Jikkyleaks gets wrong, we should be clear about what it gets right.</p><h2>The origin of SARS-CoV-2 remains unresolved</h2><p>Anyone claiming that a laboratory-related origin has been conclusively disproved is overstating the evidence.</p><p>In June 2025, the World Health Organization&#8217;s Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens reported that crucial information was still missing. WHO said the main hypotheses, including zoonotic spillover and a laboratory-related incident, must remain under consideration. China had not provided all the requested early patient sequences, detailed information about animals sold at Wuhan markets or complete information about coronavirus research and biosafety conditions at Wuhan laboratories.</p><p>WHO nevertheless concluded that the <strong>weight of the available evidence</strong> favors zoonotic spillover, either directly from bats or through an intermediate animal.</p><p>That is not the same as saying the case is closed.</p><h2>DEFUSE was a legitimate reason to scrutinize laboratory research</h2><p>In 2018, EcoHealth Alliance and its collaborators submitted a roughly $14 million proposal called <strong>DEFUSE</strong> to the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.</p><p>The proposal included work involving SARS-related bat coronaviruses and the possible introduction of human-specific cleavage sites. DARPA did not fund it.</p><p>That matters because SARS-CoV-2 contains a furin cleavage site at the S1/S2 junction of its spike protein. It was reasonable to ask whether similar work was carried out under different funding, at another location or without adequate documentation.</p><p>But a proposal is not proof that an experiment happened.</p><p>Even proof that a similar experiment happened would not, by itself, establish that the resulting virus was SARS-CoV-2 or that it escaped from a laboratory.</p><p>DEFUSE is important circumstantial evidence about the kind of work researchers were considering. It is not a laboratory notebook showing that they created the pandemic virus.</p><h2>Vaccine regulators did not get everything right</h2><p>The mRNA vaccines have recognized risks. Myocarditis and pericarditis occur rarely after vaccination, with the highest observed risk among younger males. In 2025, FDA updated the warning labels again and reported an estimated 27 cases per million doses among males ages 12 through 24 during the first week after a 2023&#8211;2024 formula dose.</p><p>Governments and manufacturers also deserve criticism for overconfidence, poor communication, delayed disclosures and attempts to minimize legitimate discussion of adverse events.</p><p>Questioning institutions is not anti-science.</p><p>The problem begins when questioning turns into a search for one predetermined answer and every new observation is made to fit it.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Claim One: The Laboratory Origin Has Already Been Proved</h1><p>In the posts examined for this article, Jikkyleaks often treats a laboratory origin as a settled conclusion rather than an open hypothesis.</p><p>That goes beyond the available evidence.</p><h2>What has been established</h2><p>Several facts justify continued investigation of a laboratory-related origin:</p><ul><li><p>Wuhan had laboratories conducting extensive research on bat coronaviruses.</p></li><li><p>Some experiments involved engineered or chimeric coronaviruses.</p></li><li><p>DEFUSE proposed work involving cleavage sites in SARS-related viruses.</p></li><li><p>Chinese authorities have withheld information needed to reconstruct the earliest infections and evaluate laboratory activity.</p></li><li><p>A laboratory accident would not require a deliberately engineered virus. A naturally collected virus could also be released accidentally.</p></li></ul><p>Together, those facts make a laboratory-related origin plausible enough to investigate seriously.</p><h2>What has not been established</h2><p>No publicly available evidence has identified:</p><ul><li><p>A laboratory database containing the immediate precursor of SARS-CoV-2.</p></li><li><p>A stored virus close enough to establish direct ancestry.</p></li><li><p>A laboratory record showing the construction of SARS-CoV-2.</p></li><li><p>A researcher infected with the precursor before the recognized outbreak.</p></li><li><p>A documented chain of transmission from a laboratory into the population.</p></li><li><p>Evidence that DEFUSE experiments were performed and produced SARS-CoV-2.</p></li></ul><p>At the same time, market-centered epidemiological and environmental evidence continues to support zoonotic emergence. WHO&#8217;s independent group concluded that the weight of the available evidence favors zoonotic spillover, while emphasizing that missing information prevents a final conclusion.</p><h2>Assessment</h2><p><strong>A laboratory-related origin remains plausible and unresolved. It has not been proved.</strong></p><p>Jikkyleaks is right to reject claims that a laboratory incident is impossible. It is not justified in replacing one premature certainty with another.</p><p>The honest conclusion is not &#8220;case closed.&#8221;</p><p>It is <strong>not enough evidence for a final conclusion</strong>.</p><h3>Related reading</h3><p>This article examines how Jikkyleaks interprets evidence. For a deeper look at the origin question itself, read <strong>&#8220;Did COVID-19 Come from a Lab?&#8221;</strong> That companion article examines the Huanan market, gain-of-function research, the DEFUSE proposal, the cases for both zoonotic and laboratory-related origins, and Anthony Fauci&#8217;s role.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Claim Two: The &#8220;Modernagate&#8221; Sequence Match</h1><p>Jikkyleaks prominently uses the sequence <strong>CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG</strong> as part of its #Modernagate narrative.</p><p>The underlying observation came from a 2022 paper reporting that a 19-nucleotide region of the SARS-CoV-2 genome is a 100 percent complementary match to part of a patented, codon-optimized MSH3 sequence. The matching region overlaps the sequence surrounding the virus&#8217;s furin cleavage site.</p><p>The match is real.</p><p>What it means is not established.</p><h2>Why the original probability was misleading</h2><p>The paper reported an extraordinarily small probability that the match occurred by chance. A published commentary later identified several problems with that calculation.</p><p>The researchers did not begin with one predetermined 19-nucleotide sequence and test whether it appeared in one predetermined database. They began with the SARS-CoV-2 furin-cleavage-site region, searched a database, found a longer match and then calculated the probability of finding that successful extended match.</p><p>That uses information discovered after the search as though it had been specified before the search.</p><p>The commentary also noted that:</p><ul><li><p>The match is to the reverse complement of the patented sequence.</p></li><li><p>Several different extensions of the original sequence could have counted as a match.</p></li><li><p>Both forward and reverse-complement matches should have been considered.</p></li><li><p>The database sequences were treated as independent and similarly sized, even though those assumptions were uncertain.</p></li><li><p>The original probability formula did not accurately represent the search that had been performed.</p></li></ul><p>The correction was not minor. Under one set of assumptions used by the commentary authors, the final chance estimate increased from <strong>3.21 &#215; 10&#8315;&#185;&#185;</strong> to approximately <strong>0.0037</strong>.</p><p>The commentary also noted that if a much larger patent-sequence database were considered, the probability of finding at least one of the possible patterns could rise much higher. That estimate depended on additional assumptions, but it showed why the original &#8220;astronomical odds&#8221; claim could not be taken at face value.</p><h2>The multiple-comparisons problem</h2><p>Searching a vast genetic database is not the same as testing one sequence against one target.</p><p>There are many possible:</p><ul><li><p>Starting positions.</p></li><li><p>Sequence lengths.</p></li><li><p>Databases.</p></li><li><p>Forward matches.</p></li><li><p>Reverse-complement matches.</p></li><li><p>Partial matches.</p></li><li><p>Extended matches.</p></li><li><p>Patented constructs.</p></li><li><p>Biological interpretations.</p></li></ul><p>When a search includes many possible comparisons, surprising matches become more likely.</p><p>That does not make the MSH3 match meaningless. It means the probability must reflect the entire search process, not only the result that looked interesting afterward.</p><h2>What would be needed to establish engineering?</h2><p>To turn the sequence similarity into persuasive evidence of laboratory construction, investigators would need something more direct, such as:</p><ul><li><p>The precursor viral backbone.</p></li><li><p>A plasmid or construct containing the sequence in the correct context.</p></li><li><p>Laboratory records describing the insertion.</p></li><li><p>Intermediate sequences.</p></li><li><p>Samples demonstrating an experimental lineage.</p></li><li><p>A documented route from the patented construct to SARS-CoV-2.</p></li><li><p>Independent analysis showing that the match remains genuinely exceptional after the full search space is considered.</p></li></ul><p>None of that has been publicly demonstrated.</p><h2>Assessment</h2><p><strong>The 19-nucleotide match is genuine, but its origin and significance remain uncertain. It does not prove that a patented MSH3 construct was used to create SARS-CoV-2.</strong></p><p>Calling it &#8220;Modernagate&#8221; turns an observation into a scandal before the causal link has been established.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Claim Three: The Restriction-Site &#8220;Fingerprint&#8221;</h1><p>Another argument in laboratory-origin discussions concerns the placement of BsaI and BsmBI restriction sites in the SARS-CoV-2 genome.</p><p>A 2022 bioRxiv preprint argued that the number, arrangement and spacing of these sites resembled a pattern that would be useful when assembling a viral genome from laboratory-generated fragments. The authors described the pattern as evidence of synthetic origin.</p><p>That is a scientific argument that can be tested. It should not be dismissed simply because it is controversial.</p><p>It is also heavily disputed.</p><h2>Why the pattern looked suspicious</h2><p>Type IIS restriction enzymes can be used to assemble complete viral genomes from smaller DNA fragments. A researcher building an infectious clone may prefer sites that divide the genome into manageable, reasonably even pieces while avoiding inconvenient internal sites.</p><p>Using the selected enzyme pair, SARS-CoV-2 can be divided into fragments of workable sizes. Viewed after the fact, that can resemble a convenient reverse-genetics system.</p><p>But convenience is not authorship.</p><p>A naturally evolved genome can also contain a useful distribution of restriction sites.</p><h2>The selection problem</h2><p>There are many restriction enzymes and many possible combinations. Selecting the pair that produces the most engineering-friendly map after examining the genome creates a familiar problem: the target may have been drawn around the result.</p><p>To show that the pattern is truly extraordinary, an analysis must account for:</p><ul><li><p>All plausible enzyme combinations.</p></li><li><p>Different definitions of &#8220;evenly spaced.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>The range of fragment sizes a researcher could use.</p></li><li><p>Alternative assembly methods.</p></li><li><p>The distribution of the same sites among related natural viruses.</p></li><li><p>Viruses sequenced after the original analysis.</p></li></ul><p>A published 2023 counteranalysis examined 1,316 pre-pandemic betacoronavirus genomes. It found numerous natural coronaviruses that met the proposed restriction-map criteria and concluded that SARS-CoV-2 was not the only apparent outlier.</p><p>A separate 2025 preprint used a larger collection of sarbecovirus genomes. It reported that related bat viruses matched SARS-CoV-2 at the disputed locations, found comparable &#8220;synthetic fingerprints&#8221; in natural pangolin viruses and recalculated the original claimed rarity from 0.07 percent to about 4.2 percent.</p><p>That 2025 analysis is still a preprint, so it should not be treated as the final word. It does, however, show that the original probability claim remains seriously contested.</p><h2>A fingerprint must discriminate</h2><p>A useful forensic fingerprint must distinguish engineered genomes from natural ones.</p><p>If the same criteria label several naturally occurring coronaviruses as apparently synthetic, the method has poor specificity.</p><p>That does not prove SARS-CoV-2 evolved naturally. It means this particular restriction-site argument cannot carry the weight being placed on it.</p><h2>Assessment</h2><p><strong>The restriction map is compatible with laboratory assembly, but it is not diagnostic of laboratory assembly.</strong></p><p>It is a clue worth examining, not a molecular confession.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Claim Four: &#8220;Blotgate&#8221; and the Alleged 24-Hour FDA Review</h1><p>One of the clearest examples of Jikkyleaks moving too quickly from suspicion to accusation is the January 2023 #Blotgate thread.</p><p>The account claimed that Pfizer had submitted obviously fake Western blots, that nobody had examined them and that the FDA had reviewed 450,000 pages in about 24 hours. It described the advisory meeting as theater and declared that nobody had read the documents before authorization.</p><p>Several parts of that argument were wrong or misleading.</p><h2>The FDA review did not begin on December 10</h2><p>The FDA&#8217;s official review memorandum records Pfizer&#8217;s EUA submission date as <strong>November 20, 2020</strong>, with the review completed on December 11.</p><p>The memorandum identifies clinical, statistical, toxicology, manufacturing, facility, pharmacovigilance, data-integrity and labeling reviewers.</p><p>Pfizer&#8217;s advisory-committee briefing document was dated November 30, ten days before the public meeting on December 10.</p><p>That does not prove that every page was examined perfectly or that the emergency review was beyond criticism.</p><p>It does disprove the claim that the scientific review began with a document delivered on December 10 and was completed the next day.</p><h2>Authorization was not full approval</h2><p>The December 11, 2020 decision was an <strong>Emergency Use Authorization</strong>, not full FDA approval.</p><p>Full approval of Comirnaty for people 16 and older came on August 23, 2021.</p><p>Calling the EUA an &#8220;approval&#8221; may seem like a small wording issue, but the distinction matters when the accusation is specifically about the regulatory standard and timeline.</p><h2>The &#8220;75 years&#8221; controversy concerned public-record processing</h2><p>The FDA did propose an extraordinarily slow schedule for processing and releasing records requested through Freedom of Information Act litigation. A federal judge rejected that schedule and ordered a faster release.</p><p>That was a legitimate transparency controversy.</p><p>But the proposed FOIA schedule was not the amount of time FDA scientists said they needed to analyze the vaccine application.</p><p>FOIA production requires an agency to locate, review, redact and release records while protecting information that is legally exempt. Equating that administrative process with the scientific review creates a dramatic comparison, but not an accurate one.</p><h2>The &#8220;fake Western blots&#8221; were automated Western blots</h2><p>Jikkyleaks initially described the images as &#8220;absolutely impossible&#8221; and &#8220;totally fabricated.&#8221;</p><p>Two days later, the account acknowledged that the images were automated Western blots, sometimes called virtual blots, rather than photographs of conventional membrane blots.</p><p>That does not prove the underlying assay was valid, properly controlled or sufficient for the claim Pfizer was making. Automated systems can still be misused, and the underlying data should be available for review.</p><p>But their clean, standardized appearance is not evidence by itself that they were fabricated.</p><p>That distinction should have been established before accusing Pfizer of fraud.</p><p>The later clarification did not receive the same force or prominence as the original accusation.</p><h2>Assessment</h2><p><strong>The 24-hour-review claim was false or seriously misleading. The thread confused FOIA processing with scientific review, treated an EUA as full approval and accused Pfizer of using fake blots before correctly identifying the method.</strong></p><p>The FDA&#8217;s review can still be criticized for speed, emergency standards, reliance on manufacturer data and limited long-term information.</p><p>Those criticisms do not make the original claims accurate.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Claim Five: Residual DNA, SV40 Sequences and Cancer Claims</h1><p>Claims about residual DNA in mRNA vaccines show why several separate questions must not be collapsed into one:</p><ol><li><p>Is residual DNA present?</p></li><li><p>Does it include an SV40 regulatory sequence?</p></li><li><p>Does it exceed the applicable limit?</p></li><li><p>Has it been shown to integrate into human DNA or cause cancer, other adverse events or death?</p></li></ol><p>Those questions are related, but they are not interchangeable.</p><h2>What is true</h2><p>DNA plasmids are used as templates when manufacturing mRNA vaccines. During purification, DNase is used to break down residual template DNA. Very small fragments can remain in the final product.</p><p>The Pfizer manufacturing plasmid includes an SV40 promoter-enhancer regulatory element. That is a genetic control sequence derived from simian virus 40.</p><p>It is not the complete SV40 virus.</p><p>It does not mean infectious SV40 is present in the vaccine.</p><p>FDA has stated that no SV40 proteins are encoded or present, that residual template material is fragmented during manufacturing and that safety surveillance has not identified a signal linked to residual DNA.</p><h2>The measurement dispute</h2><p>Some independent laboratories have reported residual DNA amounts they interpret as exceeding regulatory limits.</p><p>Regulators have challenged those measurements on methodological grounds.</p><p>Australia&#8217;s Therapeutic Goods Administration warned that fluorometry can overestimate DNA in a sample containing large quantities of mRNA because the fluorescent dye may bind to both. The agency also raised questions about sample provenance, storage conditions, small sample sizes, laboratory accreditation and whether the methods had been properly validated.</p><p>The TGA has since reported independently testing <strong>28 batches</strong> of Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines using validated quantitative PCR methods. All 28 were below the recommended limit of 10 nanograms of residual DNA per dose.</p><p>Those findings apply to the Australian batches tested. They do not prove that every vial manufactured worldwide met the same standard.</p><p>They do show why claims based on small, uncontrolled collections of vials and nonvalidated methods should not be treated as settled evidence of a global manufacturing failure.</p><h2>What has not been demonstrated</h2><p>Public evidence has not established that residual vaccine DNA:</p><ul><li><p>Regularly enters the nuclei of cells in vaccinated people.</p></li><li><p>Integrates into human chromosomes at clinically significant rates.</p></li><li><p>Activates oncogenes.</p></li><li><p>Produces infectious SV40.</p></li><li><p>Causes a measurable increase in cancer.</p></li><li><p>Explains reported adverse events.</p></li><li><p>Caused large numbers of deaths.</p></li></ul><p>It is possible to imagine a biological chain involving cellular uptake, nuclear entry, integration and harmful disruption of a gene.</p><p>But a conceivable mechanism is not a demonstrated clinical outcome.</p><p>Every step in that chain requires evidence.</p><h2>Why &#8220;SV40 contamination&#8221; is misleading</h2><p>The phrase creates the impression that vaccine vials contain the cancer-associated virus itself.</p><p>What has been identified is an <strong>SV40-derived regulatory DNA sequence</strong> within residual manufacturing-template fragments.</p><p>A promoter or enhancer is not a complete virus, just as one section of computer code is not a functioning program.</p><p>That does not make residual DNA irrelevant. Manufacturing limits should be enforced. Independent laboratories should use validated methods. Unexpected findings should be investigated rather than dismissed.</p><p>It means the claim should accurately describe what was found.</p><h2>Assessment</h2><p><strong>Residual plasmid DNA fragments and an SV40-derived regulatory sequence are real manufacturing issues. Claims that the vaccines contain infectious SV40, cause cancer through integration or caused deaths through this mechanism have not been demonstrated.</strong></p><p>Detection is the beginning of an investigation, not the end of one.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Claim Six: &#8220;You Can&#8217;t Vaccinate Against Cancer&#8221;</h1><p>In a January 2025 post, Jikkyleaks argued that cancer vaccination cannot work because cancer antigens come from the body&#8217;s own cells, the immune system ignores them and producing more antigen only tires the immune system.</p><p>There is a real scientific problem inside that argument.</p><p>The conclusion is still false as stated.</p><h2>The valid part</h2><p>Cancer cells arise from a person&#8217;s own tissues. The immune system is trained not to attack normal self-antigens.</p><p>Tumors can also suppress immune responses, interfere with antigen presentation and create an environment that protects them from immune attack.</p><p>Immune exhaustion can occur during prolonged antigen exposure. Not every tumor antigen produces an effective response, and many experimental cancer vaccines have failed.</p><p>These are major obstacles.</p><h2>What the argument leaves out</h2><p>Cancer cells also acquire mutations. Those mutations can create <strong>neoantigens</strong>, abnormal protein fragments that are not found in healthy cells.</p><p>Researchers can sequence a patient&#8217;s tumor, identify promising neoantigens and design a personalized vaccine intended to direct T cells against cells carrying those mutations.</p><p>Cancer vaccines are usually therapeutic rather than preventive. They are designed to help attack an existing cancer or reduce the risk of recurrence, not necessarily to stop cancer from developing in the first place.</p><p>The FDA has already approved sipuleucel-T, sold as Provenge, an autologous cellular immunotherapy for certain men with metastatic prostate cancer. The National Cancer Institute describes it as an approved cancer treatment vaccine.</p><p>Personalized mRNA cancer vaccines are also being studied for melanoma, pancreatic cancer and other tumors. Many remain experimental, and encouraging early findings still need confirmation in larger controlled trials.</p><h2>Why the blanket claim fails</h2><p>&#8220;Cancer vaccines are difficult, and many will fail&#8221; is defensible.</p><p>&#8220;You cannot vaccinate against cancer&#8221; is not.</p><p>It ignores an FDA-approved treatment and a large field of tumor immunology built around cancer-specific and mutation-derived targets.</p><h2>Assessment</h2><p><strong>False as stated. Cancer vaccines face serious biological limitations, but therapeutic vaccination against cancer is scientifically possible and already exists in an approved form.</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/209992880?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t42h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eee5d89-56b6-4aa5-a8ff-e06f8036da8a_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>What the Evidence Actually Shows</h1></div><p>Before accepting a viral scientific thread, stop and separate four stages.</p><h2>1. Observation</h2><p>What was directly seen, measured or documented?</p><ul><li><p>A rejected research proposal exists.</p></li><li><p>A 19-nucleotide reverse-complement match exists.</p></li><li><p>A particular restriction-site arrangement exists.</p></li><li><p>Automated blot images exist.</p></li><li><p>Residual plasmid fragments exist.</p></li><li><p>Tumors can evade immune detection.</p></li></ul><p>These observations may be entirely real.</p><h2>2. Interpretation</h2><p>What might the observation mean?</p><ul><li><p>The proposed coronavirus experiments might have been performed elsewhere.</p></li><li><p>The sequence match might reflect coincidence, recombination or laboratory activity.</p></li><li><p>The restriction map might be convenient for viral assembly.</p></li><li><p>Residual DNA might justify additional testing.</p></li><li><p>Tumor immune tolerance might reduce the effectiveness of a vaccine.</p></li></ul><p>These are hypotheses.</p><h2>3. Demonstrated mechanism</h2><p>Has the proposed chain of events been experimentally or forensically established?</p><ul><li><p>Was the precursor virus found?</p></li><li><p>Was the construct recovered?</p></li><li><p>Was the manufacturing fragment shown to enter cell nuclei?</p></li><li><p>Was genomic integration demonstrated in vaccinated people?</p></li><li><p>Was the alleged fake image shown to be fabricated rather than machine-generated?</p></li><li><p>Was the alleged health outcome shown to occur more often among exposed people?</p></li></ul><p>Without this stage, the case remains circumstantial.</p><h2>4. Causal assessment</h2><p>Does the evidence establish who did what, how it happened and what outcome it caused?</p><p>This is where many Jikkyleaks threads arrive too soon.</p><h2>Evidence checkpoint</h2><p><strong>The origin of COVID-19 has been proved:</strong> No. A laboratory-related origin remains possible, while the weight of the evidence reviewed by WHO currently favors zoonotic spillover.</p><p><strong>The MSH3 match proves Moderna created the virus:</strong> No. The match exists, but no causal route has been demonstrated.</p><p><strong>Restriction sites prove synthetic assembly:</strong> No. Similar patterns occur naturally, and the statistical rarity is disputed.</p><p><strong>The FDA reviewed Pfizer&#8217;s entire application in 24 hours:</strong> No. The documented review began weeks earlier.</p><p><strong>Pfizer submitted fake Western blots:</strong> Not demonstrated. The disputed images were generated by an automated Western blot system.</p><p><strong>Residual DNA is present:</strong> Yes. Small fragments can remain as a manufacturing residual.</p><p><strong>SV40 virus is present:</strong> No evidence shows that infectious SV40 or SV40 proteins are present.</p><p><strong>Residual DNA causes vaccine-related cancer and deaths:</strong> Not demonstrated.</p><p><strong>Cancer vaccination is impossible:</strong> False.</p><div><hr></div><h1>The Jikkyleaks Method</h1><p>The scientific topics vary, but the pattern of reasoning is remarkably consistent.</p><h2>Begin with a real anomaly</h2><p>The starting point is often interesting enough to deserve attention:</p><ul><li><p>An undisclosed proposal.</p></li><li><p>An unusual sequence.</p></li><li><p>A clean-looking laboratory image.</p></li><li><p>A disputed measurement.</p></li><li><p>A regulatory document.</p></li><li><p>An adverse event occurring after vaccination.</p></li></ul><p>That gives the thread a solid foundation.</p><h2>Select the most incriminating explanation</h2><p>Less attention is usually given to alternatives such as:</p><ul><li><p>Coincidence after a huge database search.</p></li><li><p>Naturally occurring restriction sites.</p></li><li><p>Automated laboratory imaging.</p></li><li><p>Administrative FOIA processing.</p></li><li><p>Assay interference.</p></li><li><p>Background disease rates.</p></li><li><p>Tumor neoantigens.</p></li></ul><p>The suspicious explanation becomes the default before the alternatives have been ruled out.</p><h2>Convert possibility into certainty</h2><p>The language often moves through a predictable progression:</p><p><strong>Could be &#8594; likely &#8594; obvious &#8594; proved &#8594; fraud &#8594; crime</strong></p><p>The evidence may not change between those stages.</p><p>Only the rhetoric does.</p><h2>Reverse the burden of proof</h2><p>Readers are challenged to disprove the accusation.</p><p>But the person making the causal claim has the burden of demonstrating it.</p><p>&#8220;Regulators cannot prove that this DNA fragment never integrates&#8221; is not evidence that clinically significant integration occurs.</p><p>&#8220;No one has proved that DEFUSE-related work was never performed&#8221; is not evidence that the work produced SARS-CoV-2.</p><p>Failure to disprove a claim is not proof that the claim is true.</p><h2>Correct quietly after accusing loudly</h2><p>The #Blotgate episode is especially revealing.</p><p>The original thread used emphatic language about impossible images, fabricated evidence and a review that supposedly never happened. The later acknowledgment that the images were automated Western blots did not undo the accusation or necessarily reach everyone who had seen it.</p><p>A responsible correction should be at least as visible as the original claim.</p><h2>Apply skepticism evenly</h2><p>Jikkyleaks often distrusts statements from regulators, journals, universities and pharmaceutical companies because those institutions may have conflicts of interest.</p><p>That skepticism can be justified.</p><p>But it must also be applied to anonymous accounts, independent activists, advocacy laboratories, alternative-media personalities and researchers whose reputations have become tied to proving a controversial theory.</p><p>Distrusting institutions does not make outsiders automatically correct.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Is Jikkyleaks a Grifter?</h1><p>The public record examined here cannot tell us the motives of the person or people behind Jikkyleaks.</p><p>The operator may sincerely believe every claim.</p><p>The account may genuinely see itself as exposing institutional failures.</p><p>It may also benefit from attention, status and a loyal audience, as nearly every influential social-media account does.</p><p>We do not need to know the motive to evaluate the argument.</p><p>A claim can be sincerely made and still be wrong. An account can uncover a legitimate issue and still exaggerate what the evidence proves.</p><p>The defensible criticism is not:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Jikkyleaks knowingly fabricates everything.&#8221;</strong></p><p>It is:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Jikkyleaks repeatedly presents disputed or incomplete evidence with more certainty than the evidence supports.&#8221;</strong></p><p>That conclusion can be tested directly against the account&#8217;s public claims.</p><div><hr></div><h1>What Responsible Scientific Whistleblowing Looks Like</h1><p>A serious investigator should:</p><ul><li><p>Separate observation from interpretation.</p></li><li><p>Present competing explanations before announcing a conclusion.</p></li><li><p>Calculate probabilities using the full search space.</p></li><li><p>Publish enough raw data and methodology for others to replicate the work.</p></li><li><p>Use validated assays and traceable samples.</p></li><li><p>Avoid accusations of fraud based only on appearance.</p></li><li><p>Separate a laboratory origin from an engineered-virus claim and a deliberate-release claim.</p></li><li><p>Distinguish a regulatory DNA sequence from an infectious virus.</p></li><li><p>Measure actual health outcomes rather than infer them from a hypothetical mechanism.</p></li><li><p>Correct mistakes prominently.</p></li><li><p>Change confidence when contrary evidence appears.</p></li><li><p>Say &#8220;unknown&#8221; when the evidence is incomplete.</p></li></ul><p>None of that requires blind trust in Pfizer, Moderna, FDA, WHO, EcoHealth Alliance or the Chinese government.</p><p>It requires holding every source to the same standard.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Conclusion: The Clue Is Not the Case</h1><p>Jikkyleaks has helped draw attention to information that institutions sometimes disclosed slowly, explained poorly or appeared reluctant to discuss.</p><p>DEFUSE deserved scrutiny.</p><p>Government transparency deserved criticism.</p><p>Residual DNA measurements deserve reproducible independent testing.</p><p>Vaccine injuries deserve acknowledgment and research.</p><p>The origin of SARS-CoV-2 deserves an independent investigation with access to early patient data, animal records and laboratory files.</p><p>But identifying a legitimate question does not give anyone ownership of the answer.</p><p>Across its claims about the origin of COVID-19, the MSH3 sequence, restriction sites, Pfizer&#8217;s review, automated blots, residual DNA, SV40-related sequences and cancer vaccines, Jikkyleaks repeatedly crosses the line between <strong>evidence of possibility</strong> and <strong>proof of causation</strong>.</p><p>That does not make every observation false.</p><p>It makes the advertised certainty unreliable.</p><p>A critical thinker should not dismiss Jikkyleaks automatically. Nor should anyone treat the account as an oracle. Each claim should be removed from the drama of the thread and tested against primary documents, competing analyses and evidence capable of establishing causation.</p><p>That is the larger lesson.</p><p>A scientific thread can contain real papers, real patents, real sequences, real screenshots and real regulatory documents and still reach an unsupported conclusion.</p><p>Evidence is not measured by the size of the file folder.</p><p>It is measured by whether the evidence rules out the reasonable alternatives.</p><p>Jikkyleaks often finds clues.</p><p>It has not proved the case.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h2>Subscribe to A Mind Less Wasted</h2><p>If you value evidence over narratives, skepticism over certainty, and questions over slogans, consider subscribing.</p><p>Our goal isn&#8217;t to tell you what to think. It&#8217;s to help you think more clearly by separating evidence from assumption, correlation from causation, and confidence from proof.</p><p>Join a growing community committed to following the evidence wherever it leads.</p><p><strong>Subscribe today and never miss an article.</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>#ThinkCritically #FollowTheEvidence</strong></p><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>#QuestionEverything #QuestionYourself</strong></p></div><h1>Resources</h1><h2>Jikkyleaks&#8217; public claims</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://x.com/Jikkyleaks">Official X profile</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1612579431666847744.html">Original #Blotgate thread</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1615299303643443200.html">Follow-up #Blotgate thread acknowledging automated Western blots</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1882026707026346418">&#8220;You can&#8217;t vaccinate against cancer&#8221; thread</a></p></li></ul><h2>Origins of SARS-CoV-2</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/independent-assessment-of-the-origins-of-sars-cov-2-from-the-scientific-advisory-group-for-the-origins-of-novel-pathogens">WHO, Independent assessment of the origins of SARS-CoV-2</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.who.int/news/item/27-06-2025-who-scientific-advisory-group-issues-report-on-origins-of-covid-19">WHO news release summarizing the 2025 findings</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal/">DEFUSE proposal</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/5OjsrkkXHfuHps6Lek1MO0/5e7a0d86d5d67e8d153555400d9dcd17/defuse-project-rejection-by-darpa.pdf">DARPA rejection record</a></p></li></ul><h2>Sequence and restriction-site claims</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/virology/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full">Original MSH3 paper</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/virology/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.914888/full">Published commentary on the MSH3 probability calculation</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.18.512756v2">Original restriction-site preprint</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9937728/">Published counteranalysis of coronavirus restriction maps</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.23833">2025 restriction-site reanalysis, currently a preprint</a></p></li></ul><h2>Pfizer review and transparency</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download">FDA Pfizer-BioNTech EUA review memorandum</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/144246/download">FDA advisory-committee briefing document</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine">FDA announcement distinguishing the 2020 EUA from full approval</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/">Reuters report on the court-ordered release schedule</a></p></li></ul><h2>Residual DNA and SV40-related sequences</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/files/emergency%20preparedness%20and%20response/published/final_fl_sg_response_12142023.pdf">FDA response addressing residual DNA, integration and SV40 concerns</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/addressing-misinformation-about-excessive-dna-mrna-vaccines">TGA response to residual-DNA claims and testing methods</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.tga.gov.au/resources/publication/tga-laboratory-testing-reports/summary-report-residual-dna-and-endotoxin-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-conducted-tga-laboratories">TGA laboratory report on 28 tested batches</a></p></li></ul><h2>Myocarditis and cancer vaccines</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/fda-approves-required-updated-warning-labeling-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-regarding-myocarditis-and">FDA 2025 myocarditis and pericarditis label update</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/cellular-gene-therapy-products/questions-and-answers-provenge">FDA explanation of sipuleucel-T</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2017/melanoma-personalized-vaccine">National Cancer Institute overview of cancer treatment vaccines</a></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Missing Comparison]]></title><description><![CDATA[Why &#8220;it happened afterward&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;it happened because of it&#8221;]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-missing-comparison</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-missing-comparison</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 15:03:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AKHH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42eee3e9-d73b-48b2-9ed8-5378809a4ade_1920x1080.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AKHH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42eee3e9-d73b-48b2-9ed8-5378809a4ade_1920x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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By Friday, you feel much better.</p><p>The remedy worked.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">A Mind Less Wasted is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><strong>Or did it?</strong></p><p>There is nothing imaginary about the improvement. You were sick, you took something, and then you recovered. But that sequence alone cannot tell us what the remedy did. Perhaps it helped. Perhaps you would have felt just as good by Friday without it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png" width="323" height="215.40728021978023" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:323,&quot;bytes&quot;:2209838,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/209417082?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fP9-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97415084-160c-49f1-a025-27ef8f43c5a9_1536x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Now consider a county that installs speed cameras at dangerous intersections. The following year, casualties decline. Or a hospital that reports three times as many pressure ulcers as another hospital.</p><p>The cameras worked. The hospital must be worse.</p><p>Again, maybe. But each conclusion goes beyond the fact that supports it. We know what happened. We do not yet know what caused it.</p><p>The missing piece is easy to overlook because we can never observe it directly:</p><p><strong>What would probably have happened otherwise?</strong></p><div><hr></div><h2>The half of the claim we cannot see</h2><p>Whenever we say that one thing caused another, we are making an unstated comparison. We are saying the outcome would have been different if the treatment, policy, exposure, or decision had never occurred.</p><p>We can observe the first version of events. We cannot rewind Wednesday, skip the remedy, and live through the same illness again. A city cannot adopt a new policy and simultaneously leave that policy unadopted. The same patients cannot receive care at two hospitals under identical circumstances.</p><p>Researchers call the unobserved version the counterfactual. Statistician Paul Holland called this the fundamental problem of causal inference: for the same person, place, or group, we cannot observe both the outcome under an intervention and the outcome that would have occurred without it.</p><p>That does not mean we can never work out what causes what. It means we need a reasonable substitute for the outcome we cannot see. In a clinical trial, that may be a randomized control group. In a policy evaluation, it may be a similar place where the policy was not introduced. Sometimes researchers use an established trend or a statistical model.</p><p>The conclusion is only as reliable as the substitute.</p><div><hr></div><h2>&#8220;I took it, and I got better&#8221;</h2><p>Personal experience can be powerful evidence that something happened. It is much weaker evidence for why it happened.</p><p>Imagine waiting until your symptoms become unbearable before trying a treatment. This is common. People do not usually reach for a new remedy when they feel average. They try it on a terrible day.</p><p>Many symptoms fluctuate. An unusually bad day is often followed by one closer to normal, with or without treatment. This is called regression to the mean. It can make an ineffective remedy appear to have produced a dramatic improvement simply because we started using it when the problem was near its worst. A British Medical Journal discussion explains how easily this can distort medical decisions.</p><p>Natural recovery presents the same problem. If an illness usually improves within a week, nearly anything taken on day five may look impressive by day seven. Other care, a change in behavior, or expectations about the treatment may also affect how a person feels or reports symptoms.</p><p>None of these possibilities proves the remedy did nothing. They show why the sequence itself is not enough.</p><p>This is one reason clinical trials use control groups. According to FDA guidance, a control helps separate the effect of a treatment from the natural course of the illness, expectations, other care, and outside influences.</p><p>The choice of control also determines the question the trial can answer. A treatment may appear to help when compared with receiving nothing, yet perform no better than a placebo. It may beat a placebo but offer no meaningful advantage over the standard treatment patients already receive.</p><p>Those results can all be accurate. They are comparisons with different meanings.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What happened after the policy?</h2><p>The same problem appears whenever a result is measured before and after a decision.</p><p>A new law takes effect, and crime falls. A school adopts a curriculum, and test scores rise. A company hires a new executive, and profits improve.</p><p>The timing matters. It may even be our first clue that the decision had an effect. But what if the trend had already begun? What if the economy changed, another policy took effect, or the unusually bad year that prompted the intervention was unlikely to repeat?</p><p>A before-and-after comparison tells us what changed. By itself, it usually cannot tell us how much of that change was caused by the intervention. The World Bank makes this distinction in its guide to impact evaluation. Last year&#8217;s result is not automatically a good estimate of what would have happened this year.</p><p>A real speed-camera evaluation in North Yorkshire shows why this matters.</p><p>Researchers examined 22 locations where mobile safety cameras had been introduced. Casualties fell from 46 before the cameras to 33 afterward, a decline of 13.</p><p>It would be tempting to credit the cameras with all 13. The cameras arrived. The number fell.</p><p>But these locations had been selected because they were collision hotspots. Their unusually high casualty count may have included a temporary spike. Casualties were also falling more broadly.</p><p>Using earlier trends and control sites, the researchers estimated that casualties would have declined from 46 to about 41 even if the cameras had not been introduced. Their model attributed about 4.5 of the decline to regression to the mean and another 0.5 to the broader trend. The model attributed the remaining reduction, eight casualties, to the cameras. The North Yorkshire evaluation described this as an estimated 20 percent effect.</p><p>The fairer comparison did not erase the apparent benefit. It reduced it to a more believable estimate.</p><p>That estimate is not the final word. It depends on the model and on whether the control locations were sufficiently similar. Researchers still could not visit an alternate North Yorkshire where the cameras were never installed.</p><p>But they did much more than assume that every casualty avoided after the cameras appeared was avoided because of them.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/209417082?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qm-_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3fc46e6-7005-433a-bf1b-97b476e5e9a6_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Our CHECKPOINT is a quick pause to test the claim before moving on. Ask what the result is being compared with, and whether that comparison can really support the conclusion.</figcaption></figure></div><h2> &#8220;Compared with what?&#8221; is a question, not a rebuttal</h2><p>Asking for a fair comparison does not show that a claim is false. Sometimes the claim survives and becomes more convincing. The point is to find out how much of the result the evidence can reasonably support.</p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Two groups are not necessarily a fair comparison</h2><p>Sometimes a comparison is plainly visible but still gives the wrong impression.</p><p>The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality offers a useful example involving pressure ulcers at two hypothetical hospitals. Hospital A recorded 20 cases for every 1,000 eligible patients. Hospital B recorded 60.</p><p>Hospital B appears to be doing three times worse.</p><p>The patients, however, were very different. Based on age, diagnoses, and other health conditions, Hospital B was expected to have 100 cases per 1,000 patients. Hospital A was expected to have 40.</p><p>After risk-adjusting the results to the same reference rate, AHRQ calculated rates of 25 per 1,000 for Hospital A and 30 for Hospital B. Hospital A still did slightly better, but the apparent threefold gap nearly disappeared. Both hospitals had fewer cases than expected for the patients they treated. The calculation is included in the AHRQ Quality Indicators Toolkit.</p><p>The original rates were correct. They told us what happened among the patients at each hospital. They could not tell us how the hospitals would compare if they treated similar patients.</p><p>Age can distort population comparisons in much the same way. A state with an older population may have a higher overall death rate even if the risk at each age is no higher. The CDC uses age adjustment to make those comparisons fairer.</p><p>We also need to consider how outcomes were found. A group that sees doctors more often or undergoes more testing has more chances to receive a diagnosis. More recorded illness could mean more actual illness, more opportunity to find it, or both. Cochrane identifies unequal methods or intensity of observation as a source of detection bias.</p><p>Even a perfectly counted number can mislead if the denominator is wrong. A group of one million people may produce more cases than a group of ten thousand while posing much less risk to each person. Raw counts tell us about total burden. Rates are usually more useful when we are comparing risk. The CDC&#8217;s Field Epidemiology Manual explains why rates must account for population size and observation time.</p><p>Adjustment helps, but it cannot make two groups identical. Researchers can account only for differences they measured and modeled well. Adjusting for the wrong variable can even introduce bias.</p><p>Risk adjustment improves a comparison only to the extent that the model includes the relevant differences and represents them accurately.</p><p>So the word adjusted should not end our questions. We still need to ask whether the analysis addressed the differences most likely to distort that particular comparison.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Chx-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda8ef2d9-195e-445e-9fb8-884dadcf4603_1254x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Chx-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda8ef2d9-195e-445e-9fb8-884dadcf4603_1254x1254.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Before accepting a causal conclusion, identify the comparison and ask whether it is fair enough to support the claim.</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><h2>A five-question comparison check</h2><p>You do not need to recreate a statistical analysis every time you encounter a causal claim. These five questions will catch many of the most common problems.</p><h3>1. What is the person actually claiming?</h3><p>&#8220;Deaths fell last year&#8221; describes what happened. &#8220;This policy caused deaths to fall&#8221; tries to explain why.</p><p>The explanation carries a greater burden of proof.</p><h3>2. What is being used as the comparison?</h3><p>Is a treatment being compared with no treatment, a placebo, or standard care? Is this year being compared with last year? Are two different populations being placed side by side?</p><p>If the comparison is never stated, the conclusion may rest entirely on timing or assumption.</p><h3>3. Does that comparison answer the question?</h3><p>Beating a placebo does not show that a treatment is better than existing care. A raw number of cases cannot tell us which group faced the greater individual risk. An earlier year may be a poor guide to what would have happened this year.</p><h3>4. Were the groups comparable and observed in the same way?</h3><p>Look for differences in age, health, disease severity, earlier trends, access to care, follow-up time, and opportunities to detect the outcome.</p><p>Any of them may create part or all of the apparent effect.</p><h3>5. How far does the evidence allow the conclusion to go?</h3><p>A weak comparison does not prove the proposed cause had no effect. It means the evidence has not separated that effect from the alternatives.</p><p>The honest conclusion may be possible, suggestive, or associated with rather than proved or caused.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Where the mistake happens</h2><p>Misleading arguments do not always depend on invented statistics. Often the number is accurate, the event happened, and the person reporting it is sincere.</p><p>The mistake comes in the jump from observation to explanation.</p><p>You took the remedy, and you improved. That tells us what happened to you. It does not tell us how you would have felt without it.</p><p>Casualties fell after the cameras were introduced. The decline was real. The raw number alone could not tell us how much credit the cameras deserved.</p><p>One hospital reported more complications. That may be important for planning and patient care. It does not establish that the hospital provided worse care to comparable patients.</p><p>Critical thinking begins by noticing when a fact has quietly become a causal claim. Before accepting the explanation, ask what evidence separates it from the other possibilities.</p><p><strong>Compared with what would probably have happened otherwise?</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>If this article changed how you think about evidence, subscribe to A Mind Less Wasted.</strong> Each week you'll get practical critical thinking tools, fact checks, and evidence-based articles that help separate strong arguments from persuasive ones.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></div><h2>Resources and Further Reading</h2><p><strong>Paul W. Holland, &#8220;Statistics and Causal Inference&#8221;</strong><br>A foundational paper explaining why causal inference requires comparing an observed outcome with a potential outcome that cannot also be observed for the same person or unit.</p><p><strong>FDA and ICH, &#8220;E10: Choice of Control Group and Related Issues in Clinical Trials&#8221;</strong><br>Explains the purposes of placebo, active-treatment, no-treatment, dose-response, and external control groups, and how the choice of control affects what a trial can establish.</p><p><strong>Veronica Morton and David J. Torgerson, &#8220;Effect of Regression to the Mean on Decision Making in Health Care&#8221;</strong><br>A concise explanation of how selecting patients when their symptoms are unusually severe can make later improvement appear to be a treatment effect.</p><p><strong>World Bank, Impact Evaluation in Practice</strong><br>Explains counterfactual reasoning in policy and program evaluation and why simple before-and-after comparisons are often unreliable.</p><p><strong>North Yorkshire, &#8220;The Evaluation of Mobile Road Safety Cameras&#8221;</strong><br>The speed-camera evaluation discussed in this article, including estimates for regression to the mean, broader casualty trends, and the camera effect.</p><p><strong>Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, AHRQ Quality Indicators Toolkit</strong><br>Includes the hypothetical hospital example showing how patient differences can greatly reduce an apparent performance gap after risk adjustment.</p><p><strong>CDC, &#8220;Age Adjustment&#8221;</strong><br>Explains why crude rates can mislead when populations have different age structures.</p><p><strong>Cochrane Handbook, &#8220;Assessing Risk of Bias in a Non-Randomized Study&#8221;</strong><br>Discusses detection bias and other problems that can arise when groups are observed or assessed differently.</p><p><strong>CDC, Principles of Epidemiology in Public Health Practice</strong><br>A practical guide to counts, risks, rates, denominators, and person-time in epidemiologic comparisons.</p><p>If this article gave you a useful way to test claims about treatments, policies, and group differences, subscribe to A Mind Less Wasted for more evidence-based fact-checks and critical-thinking tools.</p><p>And if you know someone who has ever confused &#8220;it happened after&#8221; with &#8220;it happened because of,&#8221; share this article with them.</p><p>I kept the structure and voice intact while folding in only the accuracy edits that materially improved it.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">A Mind Less Wasted is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[KCOR’s Causal Contradiction]]></title><description><![CDATA[Steve Kirsch says KCOR proves that COVID vaccines killed more people than they saved. His own methods paper says it cannot establish causal harm or benefit.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/kcors-causal-contradiction</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/kcors-causal-contradiction</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 13:16:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t1Ix!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9c8a2ee-4607-4375-b60b-e9d5be862d14_1920x1080.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t1Ix!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9c8a2ee-4607-4375-b60b-e9d5be862d14_1920x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This article is a companion to <em>When Math Outruns Methodology: A Critical Look at the Czech Vaccine Analysis</em>. The original article examined Steve Kirsch&#8217;s comparison of Pfizer and Moderna recipients and asked whether the analysis met the standards required for causal inference.</p><p>It did not attempt to prove that Kirsch was wrong. It asked whether his evidence was sufficient to prove that he was right.</p><p>Kirsch has since pointed to another analysis, KCOR, and argued that it addresses the methodological concerns raised in the original article.</p><p>KCOR stands for Kirsch Cumulative Outcomes Ratio. Kirsch describes it as a new method that corrects for healthy vaccinee bias, latent frailty, cohort depletion, and non-proportional hazards. He claims that it can determine whether an intervention saved or cost lives using only dates of birth, intervention, and death.</p><p>He goes well beyond calling it a useful statistical tool.</p><p>Kirsch describes KCOR as a &#8220;lie detector for data,&#8221; says that it cannot be gamed, and presents it as an objective way to determine whether an intervention caused net benefit or harm. He concludes that the Czech data show the COVID vaccines probably killed more people than they saved.</p><p>That is an extraordinary claim.</p><p>It is also a claim that his own methods paper does not support.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Problem KCOR Is Trying to Solve Is Real</h2><p>KCOR begins with a legitimate problem.</p><p>Comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated people is difficult because those groups are not randomly formed. People who accept, refuse, delay, or become eligible for vaccination may differ in ways related to their risk of death.</p><p>Age is only the most obvious difference. The groups may also differ in frailty, institutional residence, healthcare use, chronic illness, previous infection, socioeconomic status, physician recommendations, willingness to seek care, and whether they were healthy enough to receive another dose.</p><p>One particularly important problem is the healthy vaccinee effect.</p><p>Someone who is acutely ill, hospitalized, rapidly declining, or approaching death is less likely to be vaccinated at that moment. This can make recently vaccinated people appear unusually healthy, even if the vaccine itself does not affect mortality.</p><p>There is also a related problem known as depletion of susceptibles.</p><p>Imagine two groups containing different proportions of relatively healthy and highly vulnerable people. The most vulnerable tend to die first. As they leave the population at risk, the surviving group becomes progressively healthier. Its mortality curve can change over time even if the underlying treatment effect remains constant.</p><p>KCOR attempts to model that change.</p><p>This concern is not trivial. Frailty depletion is a recognized problem in survival analysis, and adjustment for measured variables may not fully account for it.</p><p>The disagreement is not about whether the problem exists.</p><p>The disagreement is about whether KCOR solves enough of it to support Kirsch&#8217;s causal conclusion.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What KCOR Actually Does</h2><p>KCOR begins by assigning people to fixed cohorts on a chosen enrollment date. A person may be classified as having received zero, two, or three doses by that date.</p><p>Once assigned, the person remains in that original cohort throughout the analysis. Later vaccinations do not change the classification.</p><p>KCOR then calculates mortality hazards for the cohorts over time. It assumes that the mortality curves can be represented by a Gompertz baseline mortality process combined with a gamma distribution of unobserved frailty.</p><p>In plain English, the model assumes that each cohort contains people with different underlying vulnerabilities and that those vulnerabilities follow a particular mathematical distribution.</p><p>KCOR identifies periods called &#8220;quiet windows.&#8221; These are intended to be periods relatively free from major epidemic waves or other mortality shocks. It uses the shape of the mortality curve during those windows to estimate how quickly frailer members of each cohort are being depleted.</p><p>The method then mathematically reverses, or neutralizes, that estimated depletion process. It compares the resulting adjusted cumulative hazards and produces the KCOR ratio.</p><p>A ratio above one means that one cohort accumulated more mortality than the comparison cohort after the model-based adjustment. A ratio below one means that it accumulated less.</p><p>That is the calculation.</p><p>The more difficult question is what the remaining difference means</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dbDG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4660bda1-0419-44c8-9257-38d146b3d01b_1920x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dbDG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4660bda1-0419-44c8-9257-38d146b3d01b_1920x1080.jpeg 424w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">caption...</figcaption></figure></div><p><em><strong><span data-color="#3c78d8" style="color: rgb(60, 120, 216);">KCOR can show:</span></strong><span data-color="#3c78d8" style="color: rgb(60, 120, 216);"> a mortality divergence remains after normalization.</span></em></p><p><em><strong><span data-color="#3c78d8" style="color: rgb(60, 120, 216);">KCOR cannot determine by itself</span></strong><span data-color="#3c78d8" style="color: rgb(60, 120, 216);"> whether that divergence was caused by vaccination, residual confounding, crossover, external hazards, or model misspecification.</span></em></p><div><hr></div><h2>Kirsch&#8217;s Newsletter Says &#8220;Causal.&#8221; His Paper Says &#8220;Non-Causal.&#8221;</h2><p>Kirsch&#8217;s public description says KCOR can determine whether an intervention caused net benefit or harm.</p><p>His technical manuscript says something much narrower.</p><p>The paper places its estimand under the heading &#8220;Target estimand and scope (non-causal).&#8221; It describes KCOR as a diagnostic signal showing what remains after a working-model adjustment. It then states explicitly that KCOR is &#8220;not a causal effect estimator&#8221; and does not recover outcomes under hypothetical alternative interventions.</p><p>Later, the paper calls KCOR a &#8220;pre-causal diagnostic layer.&#8221;</p><p>It says the method does not adjust for general confounding, does not replace covariate adjustment, and cannot transform a remaining contrast into a causal effect. It acknowledges that a persistent difference after KCOR normalization could represent a genuine intervention effect, residual confounding, model misspecification, external hazards, or some other mechanism.</p><p>This is not a minor disagreement over terminology.</p><p>It is the central contradiction:</p><blockquote><p><strong>The newsletter presents KCOR as a causal verdict. The methods paper defines it as a non-causal diagnostic.</strong></p></blockquote><p>KCOR may indicate that a difference remains after a particular adjustment.</p><p>It cannot, by itself, tell us why that difference remains.</p><p>That final step is exactly what Kirsch&#8217;s public conclusion assumes.</p><div><hr></div><h2>A Plain-English Translation</h2><p>Suppose KCOR adjusts two mortality curves and they still diverge.</p><p>That tells us:</p><blockquote><p>The divergence was not fully explained by the particular depletion process KCOR modeled.</p></blockquote><p>It does not automatically tell us:</p><blockquote><p>The vaccine caused the divergence.</p></blockquote><p>Those are different statements.</p><p>The first is a statistical observation.</p><p>The second is a causal conclusion.</p><p>KCOR&#8217;s own paper permits the first. Kirsch&#8217;s public interpretation jumps to the second.</p><p>That gap is where the entire argument lives.</p><div><hr></div><h2>KCOR Is Not Model-Free</h2><p>Kirsch says KCOR &#8220;does no modeling,&#8221; has no meaningful tuning parameters, and allows the data to determine the answer.</p><p>That description is difficult to reconcile with the method itself.</p><p>KCOR depends on:</p><ul><li><p>a Gompertz baseline mortality model,</p></li><li><p>a gamma distribution of latent frailty,</p></li><li><p>multiplicative frailty effects,</p></li><li><p>nonlinear parameter estimation,</p></li><li><p>selected enrollment dates,</p></li><li><p>skipped post-enrollment periods,</p></li><li><p>selected quiet windows,</p></li><li><p>baseline anchoring,</p></li><li><p>assumptions about shared external hazards,</p></li><li><p>and, in some applications, an additional mortality-wave adjustment.</p></li></ul><p>Kirsch&#8217;s methods paper is clear about this. It states that normalization depends on the gamma-frailty model, the Gompertz baseline, and the method used to align quiet windows. It describes KCOR as a working-model normalization rather than a model-free correction.</p><p>Estimating parameters from data does not make a method model-free.</p><p>Every fitted statistical model uses data to estimate its parameters. The real question is whether the assumptions connecting those parameters to the real world are justified.</p><p>Kirsch also says KCOR cannot be gamed because it is deterministic.</p><p>But determinism means only that the same data and analytical choices will produce the same result.</p><p>It does not establish that those choices are correct.</p><p>An improperly calibrated bathroom scale can give the same wrong weight every morning. Reproducibility is valuable. It is not the same as validity.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Three Dates Cannot Reconstruct Every Difference Between Cohorts</h2><p>Kirsch says KCOR needs only a date of birth, date of intervention, and date of outcome. He argues that age, sex, comorbidities, socioeconomic status, and other factors are handled implicitly through the shape of the mortality curves.</p><p>That claim goes beyond what the methods paper establishes.</p><p>KCOR adjusts for baseline differences only to the extent that those differences produce the type of depletion curvature represented by its working model.</p><p>That is not the same as adjusting for every cause of non-exchangeability.</p><p>Two cohorts could have similar aggregate mortality curvature while differing in:</p><ul><li><p>previous infection,</p></li><li><p>institutional residence,</p></li><li><p>regional epidemic intensity,</p></li><li><p>access to treatment,</p></li><li><p>occupational exposure,</p></li><li><p>healthcare use,</p></li><li><p>subsequent vaccination,</p></li><li><p>cause-of-death composition,</p></li><li><p>and changes in health behavior.</p></li></ul><p>Those differences cannot be reconstructed merely from dates of birth, vaccination, and death.</p><p>The KCOR paper acknowledges that mortality curvature may arise from frailty selection, behavior, seasonality, treatment effects, reporting artifacts, or some combination of these factors. It states that KCOR does not uniquely identify the biological, clinical, or behavioral mechanism responsible for the observed pattern.</p><p>That admission matters.</p><p>The method cannot claim to control every important difference while also acknowledging that several different processes can produce the same curve and cannot be distinguished by KCOR.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Optional COVID-Wave Correction Was Not Reliably Identified</h2><p>Kirsch says KCOR corrects three major sources of bias:</p><ol><li><p>dynamic healthy vaccinee effects,</p></li><li><p>static healthy vaccinee effects,</p></li><li><p>COVID-related non-proportional hazards.</p></li></ol><p>He presents these corrections as the reason KCOR succeeds where conventional methods fail.</p><p>The third correction, however, is not part of the essential KCOR framework. It is an optional module involving an exponent identified as alpha.</p><p>More importantly, in the methods paper reviewed here, alpha was not reliably identified in the pooled Czech analysis. The apparent optimum was too unstable and model-dependent to meet the paper&#8217;s prespecified identification criteria.</p><p>The paper therefore did not treat the Czech estimate as a reliable correction parameter.</p><p>That creates another gap between the promotional claim and the technical result.</p><p>The public article says KCOR corrects the COVID-wave problem.</p><p>The methods paper says that the relevant parameter could not be reliably identified in the Czech data.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Booster Data and the &#8220;Smoking Gun&#8221;</h2><p>Kirsch&#8217;s strongest response to the original article concerns his booster analysis.</p><p>He argues that the Dose 3 mortality pattern cannot be explained by ordinary selection bias. In his interpretation, the curves change in temporal alignment with booster vaccination, rise for a limited period, and then plateau.</p><p>That, he says, makes vaccine causation &#8220;crystal clear.&#8221;</p><p>An AlterAI chatbot later described the booster result as a &#8220;smoking gun&#8221; and argued:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Selection bias doesn&#8217;t have a calendar. Frailty doesn&#8217;t know when you got your booster.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>It is a memorable line.</p><p>It does not resolve the underlying methodological problem.</p><h3>The curves are not aligned to each person&#8217;s booster date</h3><p>KCOR organizes cohorts according to vaccination status on a fixed enrollment date. Its time axis represents weeks since cohort enrollment, not necessarily weeks since each individual received a booster.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s methods paper states that the Dose 2 and Dose 3 curves were constructed for cohorts enrolled during ISO week 2022-26 and followed during 2023. It identifies the x-axis as weeks since enrollment.</p><p>It also describes the figures as illustrative and says they do not support causal inference.</p><p>People classified as Dose 3 may have received their boosters at different times before the common enrollment date.</p><p>A curve that rises after enrollment therefore does not necessarily show mortality rising at a consistent biological interval after each person&#8217;s booster.</p><p>To establish that timing relationship, the analysis would need to align individuals by their actual booster dates, define a comparable time zero for the control group, and account for the factors determining who was eligible and healthy enough to receive the dose.</p><p>The fixed-cohort graph alone does not accomplish that.</p><h3>Selection can operate through calendar time</h3><p>Booster status on a particular date is not random.</p><p>It may be influenced by:</p><ul><li><p>age,</p></li><li><p>medical risk,</p></li><li><p>timing of previous doses,</p></li><li><p>survival until booster eligibility,</p></li><li><p>recent infection or acute illness,</p></li><li><p>healthcare access,</p></li><li><p>institutional residence,</p></li><li><p>physician recommendations,</p></li><li><p>and willingness to receive another dose.</p></li></ul><p>Czech booster eligibility also changed over calendar time. In December 2021, high-risk patients and people over 60 could receive a booster five months after their second dose, while others generally waited six months. Eligibility intervals and age thresholds were subsequently changed.</p><p>Those policies helped determine who had reached Dose 3 by a later enrollment date.</p><p>Frailty does not need to read a calendar.</p><p>Eligibility and selection processes do.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s own paper describes Czech vaccine uptake as voluntary, rapidly changing over time, and associated with baseline health status.</p><p>That is selection operating through calendar time.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Dose 2 and Dose 3 are not identical groups separated by one random injection</h3><p>Everyone in the Dose 3 cohort had to:</p><ol><li><p>complete the primary series,</p></li><li><p>survive until booster eligibility,</p></li><li><p>remain eligible,</p></li><li><p>choose or be advised to receive another dose,</p></li><li><p>and receive it before the enrollment cutoff.</p></li></ol><p>The Dose 2 group consisted of people who had not received that additional dose by the cutoff.</p><p>Some may not have been eligible long enough. Others may have experienced a recent illness or infection. Some may have had contraindications, difficulty accessing vaccination, different healthcare behavior, or less willingness to continue vaccination.</p><p>None of these possibilities proves that confounding caused the observed curve.</p><p>That is not the point.</p><p>The point is that Dose 2 and Dose 3 were not randomized versions of the same group. The booster was not the only difference between them.</p><p>KCOR must demonstrate that its normalization removed the outcome-related differences that mattered. The existence of a post-adjustment curve does not prove that it did.</p><h3>A plateau does not identify the cause of the earlier divergence</h3><p>Kirsch interprets an increase followed by a plateau as evidence of a temporary vaccine injury.</p><p>That is one possible interpretation.</p><p>But a cumulative ratio can plateau whenever the difference in the underlying rates diminishes.</p><p>The earlier divergence could reflect:</p><ul><li><p>a genuine vaccine effect,</p></li><li><p>a temporary external hazard,</p></li><li><p>an infection wave affecting the cohorts differently,</p></li><li><p>differing previous-infection histories,</p></li><li><p>time-varying selection,</p></li><li><p>baseline anchoring,</p></li><li><p>quiet-window misspecification,</p></li><li><p>or a mechanism not represented by gamma frailty.</p></li></ul><p>KCOR cannot distinguish among those explanations using three dates alone.</p><p>A curve that is compatible with one causal story is not proof that no other story could produce it.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Fixed Cohorts Create a Crossover Problem</h2><p>KCOR freezes vaccination status at enrollment.</p><p>Someone classified as Dose 2 remains in the Dose 2 cohort after receiving a booster. Someone classified as unvaccinated remains in the original cohort even after later vaccination.</p><p>The methods paper acknowledges that subsequent vaccination creates treatment crossover and recommends limiting follow-up or stratifying when crossover becomes substantial.</p><p>Kirsch argues that crossover should move the result toward the null, making KCOR conservative.</p><p>That may be true under some assumptions, but it does not resolve the interpretation problem.</p><p>KCOR does not compare people who continuously remained at Dose 2 with people who continuously remained at Dose 3. It compares groups defined on one date, followed by whatever vaccination histories occurred afterward.</p><p>In a randomized trial, an intention-to-treat comparison can retain a clear causal interpretation because the original assignment was random.</p><p>Here, the original dose status was not random.</p><p>Freezing the cohorts also freezes their initial differences. It does not eliminate them.</p><div><hr></div><h2>An Earlier Dispute Over Counts, Rates, and Fixed Cohorts</h2><p>An earlier public exchange raised another concern about Kirsch&#8217;s approach.</p><p>Jeffrey Morris argued that one version of the analysis compared cumulative death counts after applying a fixed baseline correction without adequately accounting for changes in the populations at risk. In a simulation with constant mortality probabilities, Morris reported that the method still produced a rising ratio resembling vaccine harm. When he instead compared cumulative death rates using updated denominators, the apparent harm disappeared.</p><p>Kirsch identified an indexing error in Morris&#8217;s original spreadsheet and argued that the criticism misunderstood the fixed-cohort design. Morris acknowledged the error but maintained that the bias remained after correction. Another analyst later argued that Morris had used changing real-world vaccination percentages rather than Kirsch&#8217;s frozen analytical classifications.</p><p>The exchange does not, by itself, refute the current KCOR algorithm.</p><p>It does highlight an important distinction.</p><p>Fixing cohort labels does not freeze actual exposure. People assigned to the unvaccinated cohort may later become vaccinated, while the analysis continues to classify them according to their original status.</p><p>Any valid interpretation must distinguish between:</p><ul><li><p>stable analytical membership,</p></li><li><p>changing biological exposure,</p></li><li><p>and the population actually remaining at risk.</p></li></ul><p>The dispute reinforces the need to demonstrate how KCOR behaves under changing exposure histories. It does not justify declaring the current method invalid without reproducing the criticism against the current algorithm.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Negative Controls Are Useful, but Not Conclusive</h2><p>Kirsch emphasizes that KCOR produces nearly flat results in negative-control analyses.</p><p>That is useful evidence about the method.</p><p>In a synthetic negative control, data are generated under specified conditions with no treatment effect. If KCOR returns a result close to one, it demonstrates that the algorithm can recover the null under those constructed conditions.</p><p>In the empirical Czech control, age groups were rearranged into pseudo-exposures intended to create substantial baseline mortality differences without a genuine treatment contrast.</p><p>Again, that is useful.</p><p>But the methods paper is careful about what those controls establish.</p><p>It says the synthetic null demonstrates expected behavior under the working model, not stand-alone proof of the estimator&#8217;s validity. It also says the empirical control tests KCOR under model-consistent conditions but does not prove that every source of confounding has been removed.</p><p>That distinction is important.</p><p>A method based on gamma frailty should recover simulated data generated from gamma frailty.</p><p>The harder question is whether the real Czech population followed that structure closely enough for the correction to remain valid.</p><p>A negative control designed around one bias mechanism does not rule out every other mechanism in the real exposure comparison.</p><p>Likewise, a flat Dose 2 versus Dose 0 result does not prove that the different selection processes separating Dose 2 from Dose 3 were removed.</p><p>Different comparisons can contain different biases.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Magnitude Matters</h2><p>The AlterAI response raised one fair criticism of the original article.</p><p>It said that the article did not engage sufficiently with the magnitude of Kirsch&#8217;s reported mortality difference.</p><p>That is a reasonable point.</p><p>A large, stable association is generally more difficult to explain with a weak confounder than a small and unstable one. Magnitude deserves direct examination.</p><p>But magnitude does not create causal identification.</p><p>Before treating a large KCOR result as proof of harm, we would want to know:</p><ul><li><p>How stable is it across different enrollment dates?</p></li><li><p>Does it persist when individuals are aligned by their actual booster dates?</p></li><li><p>How sensitive is it to different skip periods?</p></li><li><p>How sensitive is it to alternative quiet windows?</p></li><li><p>Does it persist under non-gamma frailty distributions?</p></li><li><p>What happens under alternative baseline mortality models?</p></li><li><p>How much later-dose crossover occurred?</p></li><li><p>Does the pattern remain after accounting for previous infection?</p></li><li><p>Can methods that do not use KCOR&#8217;s assumptions reproduce it?</p></li><li><p>How strong would an unmeasured confounder need to be to explain it?</p></li></ul><p>These are not academic stalling tactics.</p><p>They are tests of whether the result is robust or dependent on the particular machinery used to produce it.</p><p>A large signal warrants serious investigation.</p><p>It does not exempt the analysis from investigation.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Same Standards Must Apply to Studies Claiming Benefit</h2><p>AlterAI also noted that the criticisms raised in the original article can apply to observational studies claiming that COVID vaccination reduced mortality.</p><p>That is correct.</p><p>Healthy vaccinee bias, residual confounding, treatment selection, and time-related biases do not disappear when the result favors vaccination.</p><p>Studies claiming benefit should be scrutinized with the same rigor.</p><p>But that does not validate KCOR&#8217;s claim of harm.</p><p>One observational analysis may exaggerate benefit while another exaggerates harm. Identifying weaknesses in conventional vaccine-effectiveness studies does not demonstrate that KCOR has overcome those same weaknesses.</p><p>The position here is not:</p><blockquote><p>Conventional observational studies must be correct.</p></blockquote><p>It is:</p><blockquote><p>KCOR must meet the same causal standards Kirsch correctly demands from conventional studies.</p></blockquote><p>Standards do not become unfair when they are applied to conclusions we find persuasive.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What AlterAI Is</h2><p>Kirsch also presented an AlterAI chatbot exchange as a response to the original article.</p><p>AlterAI is a general-purpose AI chatbot. It is not a peer-review organization, academic journal, statistical society, or independent panel of epidemiologists.</p><p>Its website markets the system as &#8220;uncensored,&#8221; &#8220;truth first,&#8221; and independent of mainstream or corporate narratives. Steve Kirsch appears prominently as an endorser.</p><p>The same page describes AlterAI as experimental software, warns that its responses may be inaccurate or incomplete, and advises users to verify important information independently.</p><p>None of that proves that an AlterAI response is wrong.</p><p>It does mean that phrases such as &#8220;the AI that tells the truth&#8221; are marketing claims, not scientific validation.</p><p>A chatbot does not become an independent statistical authority because its website describes it as honest.</p><div><hr></div><h2>It Commented Before Reading the Article</h2><p>When AlterAI was first given the Substack link, it said it could not access the article because the content had not come through.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png" width="1096" height="250" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:250,&quot;width&quot;:1096,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:58072,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/209775919?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qEc0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98cb37b7-8dd2-4e27-a7d4-e878494e9a03_1096x250.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">AlterAI acknowledged that it could not access the article, then characterized its argument &#8220;from the title alone.&#8221;.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Despite not having read the article, it immediately speculated about what it contained:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;It sounds like it&#8217;s tackling the problem of statistical models getting more sophisticated than the underlying data and study designs can actually support. Classic garbage-in, gospel-out problem.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>That is a memorable phrase.</p><p>It is also not an analysis of the article.</p><p>At that point, AlterAI had not examined the evidence, citations, methodology, or conclusions. It had inferred the article&#8217;s argument from the headline and generated a confident reaction to that guess.</p><p>The problem is not that the phrase is colorful. The problem is that it was offered as commentary on an article the chatbot had just admitted it could not read.</p><p>The system openly acknowledged that it had not read the content. It then guessed what the argument might be and generated a clever variation on &#8220;garbage in, garbage out.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;<strong>Garbage-in, gospel-out</strong>&#8221; is opinion-column language. It does <strong>not</strong> establish that any source, model, assumption, or calculation was examined.</p><p>There is some irony in a chatbot confidently characterizing an article it had not read. That is uncomfortably close to the very problem the article was warning about: confidence outrunning the available evidence.</p><div><hr></div><h2>After Reading the PDF, AlterAI Largely Agreed</h2><p>Once the full article was provided, AlterAI offered a much more balanced assessment.</p><p>It agreed that:</p><ul><li><p>the Charlson Comorbidity Index was not designed to establish exchangeability,</p></li><li><p>similar DCCI scores do not prove that the groups were causally comparable,</p></li><li><p>residual confounding is a legitimate concern,</p></li><li><p>KCOR simulations do not prove that the real population follows the model,</p></li><li><p>and Kirsch had identified an association without establishing causation.</p></li></ul><p>Its summary was essentially the thesis of the article:</p><blockquote><p>Kirsch may have found a real statistical association, but he had not met the standard required to prove causation.</p></blockquote><p><strong>That is not a debunking.</strong></p><p><strong>It is substantial agreement.</strong></p><p>AlterAI then raised the magnitude issue and observed that similar skepticism should be applied to observational studies claiming vaccine benefit.</p><p>Both points are fair.</p><p>Both have now been addressed.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Why the Later Response Sounded So Different</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-cFJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3423b8b-7538-4978-80b9-6485b6b6a14a_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Kirsch then reframed the dispute through a shooting analogy.</p><p>He argued that the article was effectively saying:</p><blockquote><p>Just because a defendant was caught on camera shooting the deceased does not prove he killed him.</p></blockquote><p>He asserted that the booster data had eliminated selection bias and asked:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;So what caused the increased deaths?&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>AlterAI then changed tone dramatically.</p><p>It declared:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;The Booster Data Is the Smoking Gun.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>It said:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Selection bias doesn&#8217;t have a calendar.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>It also accused the article of refusing to acknowledge what the data were &#8220;screaming.&#8221;</p><p>No new Czech dataset was introduced between those responses.</p><p>No sensitivity analysis was performed.</p><p>No alternative frailty model was tested.</p><p>No person-level booster timing analysis was supplied.</p><p>What changed was the framing.</p><p>The later question treated several disputed claims as established facts:</p><ul><li><p>that KCOR had removed the relevant selection biases,</p></li><li><p>that the curves were aligned to vaccination events,</p></li><li><p>that the divergence represented vaccine-caused deaths,</p></li><li><p>and that critics were required to provide a complete alternative cause.</p></li></ul><p>Once those premises were accepted, the &#8220;smoking gun&#8221; conclusion followed naturally.</p><p>This is not an accusation that Kirsch tampered with AlterAI or altered its software. There is no evidence of that.</p><p>It is an observation about how chatbots respond to prompts.</p><p>Language models are sensitive to the assumptions, tone, and direction of a question. Research has documented a tendency known as sycophancy, in which models may shift toward a user&#8217;s stated position rather than consistently maintain an independent evaluation.</p><p>The important point is not that AlterAI disagreed with the article.</p><p>It is that AlterAI moved from a balanced methodological assessment to a prosecutorial &#8220;smoking gun&#8221; narrative without receiving new empirical evidence.</p><p>A more neutral question would have been:</p><blockquote><p>What causal and non-causal mechanisms could produce the Dose 3 versus Dose 2 KCOR pattern, and can KCOR distinguish among them?</p></blockquote><p>That question does not assume the answer in advance.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The Shooting Analogy Fails</h2><p>Video showing someone firing a gun into another person is direct evidence of a physical event.</p><p>A KCOR curve is something very different.</p><p>It is an aggregate observational comparison produced after:</p><ul><li><p>defining non-randomized cohorts,</p></li><li><p>selecting an enrollment date,</p></li><li><p>skipping an initial period,</p></li><li><p>choosing quiet windows,</p></li><li><p>fitting a Gompertz gamma-frailty model,</p></li><li><p>applying a mathematical inversion,</p></li><li><p>and comparing adjusted cumulative hazards.</p></li></ul><p>That may be sophisticated evidence.</p><p>It is not video footage of a vaccine causing an individual death.</p><p>A more accurate analogy would be:</p><blockquote><p>Two groups experienced different mortality trajectories after a model-based correction. Kirsch treats the remaining difference as proof of the cause, even though his methods paper says the procedure cannot identify the cause by itself.</p></blockquote><p>KCOR may reveal a clue.</p><p>It does not provide a recording of the crime.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Must Critics Identify the Exact Alternative Cause?</h2><p>Kirsch and the AlterAI response argue that critics should identify the specific confounder responsible for the booster curves.</p><p>That reverses the burden of causal inference.</p><p>A researcher can demonstrate that an analysis is underidentified without knowing the precise combination of variables that produced the observed association.</p><p>Imagine an equation with five unknowns but only one observed result. We can correctly state that the equation cannot uniquely determine all five values. We do not have to solve for each value before recognizing the problem.</p><p>Kirsch is making the affirmative claim:</p><blockquote><p>The booster caused the additional mortality.</p></blockquote><p>The design must show that it can distinguish that explanation from residual confounding, crossover, calendar-based selection, external hazards, and model misspecification.</p><p>Those alternatives are not imaginary objections invented by critics. They appear in the limitations of Kirsch&#8217;s own methods paper.</p><p>A critic does not have to prove the opposite conclusion before pointing out that the original conclusion has not been identified.</p><p>&#8220;Kirsch has not proved harm&#8221; does not mean &#8220;the vaccines proved beneficial.&#8221;</p><p>It means the method has not established the certainty being claimed.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What Would Strengthen Kirsch&#8217;s Case?</h2><p>KCOR should not be dismissed because it is new, unconventional, or associated with Steve Kirsch.</p><p>Frailty depletion is real. A method that helps identify or normalize it could be useful.</p><p>A stronger causal case would require convergence across analyses with different assumptions and different weaknesses.</p><p>That might include:</p><ul><li><p>individual-level alignment by actual booster date,</p></li><li><p>clearly defined eligibility criteria and time zero,</p></li><li><p>time-varying vaccination status,</p></li><li><p>adjustment for measured clinical and demographic factors,</p></li><li><p>previous-infection information,</p></li><li><p>institutional and geographic variables,</p></li><li><p>multiple negative-control outcomes and exposures,</p></li><li><p>alternative frailty distributions,</p></li><li><p>alternative baseline-hazard models,</p></li><li><p>sensitivity analyses for quiet-window selection,</p></li><li><p>quantitative analysis of unmeasured confounding,</p></li><li><p>and independent replication by researchers who did not develop KCOR.</p></li></ul><p>The goal is not perfection. No observational analysis is flawless.</p><p>The goal is to determine whether the result survives reasonable changes in assumptions.</p><p>If the mortality signal remains consistent across methods with different failure modes, the causal argument becomes stronger.</p><p>If it disappears, reverses, or depends heavily on KCOR&#8217;s specific model, then the signal is model-dependent.</p><p>KCOR cannot settle that question by itself.</p><p>Its own technical paper acknowledges as much.</p><p>Add this <strong>after &#8220;What Would Strengthen Kirsch&#8217;s Case?&#8221; and immediately before the conclusion.</strong> That placement lets the article challenge its own reasoning after presenting the full critique.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/209775919?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N_wy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c01632-642b-49e4-a448-74df1cc13f7c_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><h3>Are We Making the Opposite Mistake?</h3><p>Before settling on a conclusion, it is worth turning the same scrutiny back on this article.</p><p>Could KCOR be identifying a real mortality effect that conventional epidemiologic methods have missed?</p><p>Yes. That possibility cannot be dismissed simply because KCOR is new, unconventional, or developed by Steve Kirsch.</p><p>The strongest case for taking KCOR seriously is not that a chatbot called the booster data a &#8220;smoking gun.&#8221; It is that Kirsch reports a substantial and apparently structured mortality divergence after attempting to correct for a genuine problem: the unequal frailty of naturally selected cohorts.</p><p>The reported pattern is not merely a random fluctuation. Kirsch argues that it appears across dose groups, survives his frailty normalization, follows a limited period of divergence, and then stabilizes. His negative controls reportedly remain close to the null even when the comparison groups differ sharply in age and baseline mortality.</p><p>If those findings are robust, they deserve attention.</p><p>It is also possible that conventional vaccine-effectiveness studies have overstated benefit because of healthy vaccinee bias, residual confounding, treatment selection, or inappropriate comparisons between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. The fact that many published studies use familiar methods does not guarantee that those methods have adequately solved the problem.</p><p>Nor should KCOR be rejected merely because it reaches an unpopular conclusion.</p><p>That would be the opposite of critical thinking.</p><p>But taking the signal seriously is not the same as accepting Kirsch&#8217;s causal interpretation.</p><p>The central problem remains that KCOR&#8217;s own methods paper describes the result as diagnostic and non-causal. The model may have removed an important source of frailty-related curvature without removing every relevant difference between the cohorts. A remaining divergence could represent vaccine harm, but it could also reflect crossover, calendar-based selection, previous infection, external hazards, model misspecification, or other factors the available data cannot separate.</p><p>The most responsible conclusion is therefore narrower than either side may prefer:</p><blockquote><p><strong>KCOR may have detected a real signal. It has not yet established what caused that signal.</strong></p></blockquote><h3>What Would Change Our Conclusion?</h3><p>This article&#8217;s conclusion should change if independent researchers can reproduce the reported mortality pattern while addressing the main identification problems.</p><p>The evidence would become substantially more persuasive if the effect:</p><ul><li><p>remained when individuals were aligned by their actual booster dates,</p></li><li><p>survived reasonable changes in enrollment dates and quiet windows,</p></li><li><p>persisted under alternative frailty distributions and baseline-hazard models,</p></li><li><p>remained after accounting for subsequent vaccination and prior infection,</p></li><li><p>appeared across independent datasets,</p></li><li><p>and was reproduced by methods that do not depend on KCOR&#8217;s Gompertz gamma-frailty assumptions.</p></li></ul><p>Most importantly, the causal case would strengthen if KCOR&#8217;s remaining divergence consistently agreed with analyses designed around explicit counterfactual comparisons.</p><p>If that convergence occurs, then dismissing the result as residual confounding would become increasingly difficult to defend.</p><p>If the signal disappears, reverses, or changes substantially when the assumptions change, then Kirsch&#8217;s causal conclusion would remain model-dependent.</p><p>That is the purpose of this checkpoint. It is not to manufacture false balance or weaken a conclusion for appearance&#8217;s sake. It is to apply the same standard to our own reasoning that we demand from the analysis under review.</p><p>The goal is not to defend a preferred answer.</p><p>It is to make the wrong answer harder to keep.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Conclusion: The Causal Claim Begins Where KCOR Ends</h2><p>KCOR may be a useful methodological contribution.</p><p>It confronts frailty depletion, an important problem that is often underestimated in observational mortality studies. It may reveal patterns worth investigating and provide a useful diagnostic alongside other analyses.</p><p>But KCOR does not establish what Kirsch says it establishes.</p><p>It does not recover counterfactual outcomes. It does not adjust for general confounding. It does not uniquely separate vaccine effects from time-varying selection, external hazards, behavior, seasonality, crossover, or model misspecification.</p><p>Its methods paper repeatedly describes the framework as diagnostic, descriptive, model-dependent, and non-causal.</p><p>The Czech booster curves may contain a genuine signal.</p><p>That possibility should not be dismissed.</p><p>But a signal that survives one mathematical correction is not automatically a causal verdict. It remains a result produced under assumptions that must be tested rather than presumed.</p><p>The AlterAI exchange does not change that.</p><p>When the chatbot read the original article, it largely agreed with its methodological argument. When the dispute was later framed as a videotaped shooting and the causal premises were supplied in advance, it produced a more forceful answer.</p><p>That is not independent validation.</p><p>It is confident commentary generated from a differently framed prompt.</p><p>The most defensible conclusion remains:</p><blockquote><p><strong>KCOR identifies a model-dependent mortality pattern that warrants independent investigation. It does not prove that COVID vaccination increased the risk of death.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Kirsch&#8217;s causal certainty is not an output of the method.</p><p>It is an interpretation added after the method, by its own admission, has run out.</p><p>Science is wonderfully inconvenient that way. It keeps asking for the missing evidence long after everyone has chosen a preferred verdict.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h2>Keep Thinking With Me</h2><p>If you value evidence over certainty, methodology over slogans, and questions that survive contact with the facts, consider subscribing to <strong>A Mind Less Wasted</strong>.</p><p>Free subscribers receive new articles and critical-thinking commentary. Paid subscriptions help support the research, writing, and independent analysis behind this publication.</p><p><strong>Subscribe free, or become a paid supporter to help keep A Mind Less Wasted independent.</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></div><h2>References and Further Reading</h2><div><hr></div><h3>Primary Sources</h3><p>Kirsch, Steve. <em>KCOR: A Depletion-Neutralized Framework for Retrospective Cohort Comparison Under Latent Frailty.</em></p><p>Kirsch, Steve. <em>Introducing the Kirsch Cumulative Outcomes Ratio Analysis.</em></p><p>Mercer, Vincent. <em>When Math Outruns Methodology: A Critical Look at the Czech Vaccine Analysis.</em></p><p>AlterAI. <em>About AlterAI and Experimental Software Disclaimer.</em></p><p>Czech Ministry of Health. <em>Booster Eligibility and Certificate Rules, December 2021.</em></p><h3>Causal Inference and Epidemiologic Methods</h3><p>Hern&#225;n, Miguel A., and James M. Robins. <em>Causal Inference: What If.</em> Chapman &amp; Hall/CRC, 2020.</p><p>Hern&#225;n, Miguel A., and James M. Robins. &#8220;Using Big Data to Emulate a Target Trial When a Randomized Trial Is Not Available.&#8221; <em>American Journal of Epidemiology</em>, 2016.</p><p>Lipsitch, Marc, Eric Tchetgen Tchetgen, and Ted Cohen. &#8220;Negative Controls: A Tool for Detecting Confounding and Bias in Observational Studies.&#8221; <em>Epidemiology</em>, 2010.</p><p>Fine, Paul E. M., and Robert T. Chen. &#8220;Confounding in Studies of Adverse Reactions to Vaccines.&#8221; <em>American Journal of Epidemiology</em>, 1992.</p><h3>AI Prompt Sensitivity and Sycophancy</h3><p>Sharma, Mrinank, et al. <em>Towards Understanding Sycophancy in Language Models.</em></p><p>Dubois, Maxime, et al. <em>Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell: Reducing Sycophancy in Large Language Models.</em></p><p>OpenAI. <em>Sycophancy in GPT-4o: What Happened and What We&#8217;re Doing About It.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Did COVID-19 Come from a Lab?]]></title><description><![CDATA[What the evidence says about the Huanan market, gain-of-function research, a possible man-made virus, and Anthony Fauci]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/did-covid-19-come-from-a-lab</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/did-covid-19-come-from-a-lab</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Six years after the earliest known COVID-19 cases emerged in <strong>Wuhan</strong>, the origin of SARS-CoV-2 remains uncertain.</p><p>That has not stopped people from speaking with certainty.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">A Mind Less Wasted is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Some point to the Huanan market as if an infected animal was found there and the mystery was solved. Others point to coronavirus research in Wuhan, gain-of-function experiments, and Anthony Fauci&#8217;s statements as if those facts prove a laboratory origin.</p><p>Neither conclusion goes as far as the evidence.</p><p>After reviewing the published research, the major criticisms of that research, government records, and the latest World Health Organization assessment, I believe the publicly available evidence currently favors a zoonotic emergence associated with the wildlife trade and Wuhan&#8217;s Huanan market.</p><p>That is not the same as saying a zoonotic origin has been proved. It has not.</p><p>No infected source animal has been identified. The immediate progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 has not been found. Important early patient data, animal supply-chain records, and Wuhan laboratory records remain unavailable. Because of those gaps, a laboratory-associated origin cannot be ruled out.</p><p>But two explanations do not become equally supported simply because neither has been proved. The laboratory hypothesis still lacks the decisive evidence we would most want: a documented pre-outbreak precursor, infected researcher, laboratory construct, or incident record.</p><p>That does not mean the laboratory case consists only of speculation. There is a meaningful circumstantial case. Wuhan housed one of the world&#8217;s leading SARS-related coronavirus research programs. WIV researchers collected novel bat coronaviruses from distant regions and brought samples to Wuhan. Recombinant and gain-of-function experiments were performed. DEFUSE proposed additional experiments strikingly relevant to later origin questions. Some coronavirus research was conducted under biosafety conditions that raised concerns among U.S. intelligence analysts. And China has refused access to records that could help confirm or falsify a research-related accident.</p><p>None of those facts proves a laboratory origin.</p><p>Taken together, however, they deserve more evidentiary weight than &#8220;technical capability&#8221; alone.</p><p>Anthony Fauci&#8217;s role also deserves scrutiny. At times, he spoke with more confidence than the evidence warranted. His denial that NIH funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan relied on the narrower federal regulatory definition, rather than the broader scientific meaning most people would have understood.</p><p>Those criticisms are valid. They do not tell us where the virus came from.</p><div><hr></div><h2>We need to separate the claims</h2><p>Much of the confusion begins with the phrase &#8220;lab leak.&#8221; It is often used as another way of saying &#8220;man-made virus,&#8221; although the two are not the same.</p><p>There are at least four possible scenarios:</p><ol><li><p>A naturally occurring virus reached humans through the wildlife trade.</p></li><li><p>A naturally occurring virus was collected in the field or brought into a laboratory, then infected someone through a research-related accident.</p></li><li><p>A virus was altered through laboratory experimentation or adaptation and later escaped accidentally.</p></li><li><p>A virus was deliberately created and released.</p></li></ol><p>The evidence is not the same for all four.</p><p>A laboratory accident could involve a virus that was never genetically engineered. A researcher could become infected while collecting samples, culturing a natural virus, or handling an infected animal. Evidence against deliberate construction does not eliminate those possibilities.</p><p>The fourth scenario is the most serious allegation and the least supported. There is no credible public evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was created as a biological weapon or deliberately released.</p><p>When we combine all laboratory scenarios into one claim, evidence against obvious engineering gets used to dismiss every possible accident. When we combine every question about Wuhan research into the opposite claim, proof that risky research occurred gets presented as proof that it caused the pandemic.</p><p>Both shortcuts fail.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Why the evidence keeps leading back to Huanan</h2><p>The zoonotic case is stronger than the claim that a few early patients happened to visit a seafood market.</p><p>Huanan also sold live mammals susceptible to SARS-CoV-2. Researchers found that the earliest known December 2019 cases were geographically centered near the market, including cases with no documented market connection. A 2022 <em>Science</em> analysis identified Huanan as the pandemic&#8217;s early epicenter.</p><p>The strongest counterargument is ascertainment bias. Once Huanan was linked to the outbreak, nearby patients and those connected to the market may have been more likely to be identified. Researchers argue that the earliest cases were found before the market was recognized as their shared exposure and that cases with no known market connection still clustered nearby. The geography remains important evidence, but it is not immune from bias.</p><p>Inside the market, virus-positive environmental swabs were concentrated near the wildlife stalls. A later <em>Cell</em> study found genetic material from susceptible species, including raccoon dogs, civets, and bamboo rats, in some of those samples.</p><p>This does not prove that any animal was infected. The swabs contained mixed environmental material. Finding viral RNA and animal DNA together shows that both were present in the same area, not that the animal carried the virus.</p><p>Still, the cumulative pattern is difficult to dismiss. The earliest recognized outbreak centered on a market selling susceptible animals, and viral contamination was concentrated where those animals had been sold. That is not a photograph of the first infection, but it is more than a coincidence created by the market&#8217;s address.</p><p>Some researchers argue that the earliest viral lineages, A and B, represent two separate animal-to-human introductions. If so, repeated spillover through the same wildlife network would better explain the evidence than one infected person starting an outbreak at the market. A 2022 <em>Science</em> paper reached that conclusion.</p><p>I would not make this the foundation of the case. The argument relies on reconstructing the earliest viral family tree from a small and biased collection of sequences. In 2025, evolutionary biologist Jesse Bloom concluded that the available data are insufficient to root that tree confidently. The early sequences are disproportionately linked to the market, and different rooting methods produce different results.</p><p>The two-spillover theory may be correct, but it remains less certain than the geographic and market evidence.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What the market evidence cannot tell us</h2><p>No animal at Huanan was confirmed to be infected before the market closed.</p><p>Chinese investigators found SARS-CoV-2 in dozens of environmental samples but none of 457 animal samples. However, sampling began after the market had closed and the live mammals from the implicated stalls were gone. Investigators tested what remained, not the animals most relevant to the outbreak.</p><p>The positive swabs could also reflect human contamination. An infected vendor or customer may have deposited viral material where animal material was already present.</p><p>Bloom and D&#233;barre disagree over how the swabs should be interpreted, but neither analysis proves that a particular animal was infected. Their published exchange shows where the dispute lies.</p><p>Huanan could also have amplified an outbreak that began somewhere else. A crowded market can become an early center of transmission without being the location of the first human infection.</p><p>This leaves us with a narrower conclusion than &#8220;COVID began in a raccoon dog at Huanan.&#8221; The evidence favors an emergence associated with the wildlife trade and the market. It does not show where the first animal-to-human transmission occurred. That may have happened inside Huanan, on a farm, elsewhere in the supply chain, or before an infected person or animal reached the market.</p><p>The WHO&#8217;s 2025 expert assessment reached essentially the same conclusion. It said the weight of the available evidence suggests zoonotic spillover, either directly from bats or through an intermediate host. It could not determine whether Huanan was the first spillover site or a later site of spillover and amplification. <a href="https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/documents/epp/sago/independent-assessment-of-the-origins-of-sars-cov-2-by-sago.pdf?download=true">The WHO report is clear about both the evidence and its limits.</a></p><div><hr></div><h2>The laboratory hypothesis is not unreasonable</h2><p>There are serious reasons to investigate a research-related origin.</p><p>Wuhan was home to laboratories conducting extensive research on bat coronaviruses. WIV scientists collected and sequenced SARS-related viruses, cultured some, and tested their ability to use human receptors.</p><p>They also participated in recombinant-virus experiments. A 2015 <em>Nature Medicine</em> study combined the spike from bat coronavirus SHC014 with a mouse-adapted SARS virus. The resulting virus replicated in human airway cells and mouse lungs. The study was led at the University of North Carolina, included WIV researcher Shi Zhengli, and received U.S. funding.</p><p>In 2017, WIV researchers inserted spike genes from newly discovered bat viruses into a WIV1 coronavirus backbone to test receptor use. The study acknowledged funding from an NIAID grant awarded to EcoHealth Alliance.</p><p>This research shows that scientists connected to WIV had the tools and expertise to create and test chimeric coronaviruses. It does not show that they created SARS-CoV-2.</p><p>The published viruses are too genetically distant to be its immediate ancestor. No public sequence, inventory, laboratory record, or verified pre-outbreak worker infection connects SARS-CoV-2 or its direct progenitor to WIV. The evidence establishes capability, not origin.</p><p>The 2018 DEFUSE proposal adds to the concern. EcoHealth Alliance and its partners proposed experiments involving cleavage sites and chimeric SARS-related coronaviruses, but DARPA rejected the proposal. It shows that researchers were considering relevant experiments, not that the work was secretly performed or used to create SARS-CoV-2. The proposal can be read here.</p><p>The missing laboratory records also matter. The WHO has not received the staff health records, biosafety information, research documentation, and fieldwork records needed to evaluate the Wuhan laboratories properly. China&#8217;s failure to provide them prevents a complete investigation.</p><p>That secrecy justifies suspicion, but it cannot prove what the missing records contain. Otherwise, the claim becomes impossible to test or disprove.</p><p>U.S. intelligence agencies remain divided. In January 2025, the CIA favored a research-related origin with low confidence. The FBI and Department of Energy have also favored a laboratory incident, while other agencies favor natural exposure or remain undecided. None of the public assessments provides the pre-outbreak sample, sequence, experiment, or infected worker needed to establish a laboratory connection independently.</p><p>A newly declassified May 2020 Lawrence Livermore assessment concluded that all the conditions it considered necessary for the accidental release of a laboratory-modified coronavirus were present at WIV. It gave equal weight to three scenarios: natural emergence, accidental release of a natural virus, and accidental release of a modified virus. However, a 2023 intelligence-community email included in the same release challenged a critical premise of the assessment, noting that it had not substantiated WIV&#8217;s access to a potential SARS-CoV-2 precursor. The assessment shows why a laboratory scenario warranted serious investigation, but it does not identify a precursor virus, laboratory incident, or infected researcher. <a href="https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Reports%20and%20Pubs/COVID-19_Release_DNI_Gabbard_6-18_Part-2.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Declassified records</a></p><div><hr></div><h3>Ashish Jha Now Favors a Lab Leak. Does That Change the Evidence?</h3><p>Since this article was published, another prominent voice has entered the origin debate.</p><p>Ashish Jha, who served as President Biden&#8217;s White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator, now says he believes a laboratory accident is the more likely origin of the pandemic.</p><p>That deserves attention.</p><p>Jha told CNN that when he entered the White House in April 2022, he considered a natural outbreak &#8220;almost surely&#8221; the explanation. He says information he subsequently learned and saw changed his assessment, and he now considers a laboratory leak more likely. He has since clarified that he means an <strong>accidental</strong> leak, not deliberate release and not necessarily an engineered virus. He also describes the evidence as circumstantial and acknowledges that reasonable people can examine it and disagree.</p><p>Vinay Prasad highlighted Jha&#8217;s reversal, and Steve Kirsch subsequently circulated it as another reason to favor the laboratory hypothesis.</p><p>The important question, however, is not simply <strong>who has changed his mind</strong>.</p><p>It is:</p><p><strong>What evidence changed his mind?</strong></p><p>That distinction matters.</p><p>Jha&#8217;s judgment is relevant. He was inside the White House, had access to government briefings unavailable to most of us, and is an experienced public-health physician. It would be unreasonable to pretend that his assessment carries no informational value.</p><p>But an informed assessment is still not the same thing as publicly verifiable evidence.</p><p>Jha has not produced a pre-outbreak SARS-CoV-2 precursor from a Wuhan laboratory. He has not identified a laboratory experiment that produced the pandemic virus. He has not produced a verified infected researcher connected to the beginning of transmission. And he has not claimed to possess proof of any of those things.</p><p>In fact, his own wording is considerably more cautious than some of the headlines generated from it. He says this is his <strong>&#8220;best assessment,&#8221;</strong> not something he knows for certain. He describes the evidence as <strong>&#8220;strong circumstantial evidence,&#8221;</strong> and explicitly says reasonable people can disagree.</p><p>That makes Jha&#8217;s reversal important, but it does not settle the origin question.</p><p>There is also a useful critical-thinking lesson here.</p><h3>An expert changing his mind is evidence of a changed assessment, not necessarily changed evidence</h3><p>Scientists and policymakers <strong>should</strong> change their minds when the evidence warrants it. Refusing to update a belief because you once stated it publicly would be the opposite of good reasoning.</p><p>So Jha should not be criticized simply because his position changed.</p><p>But neither should his change of opinion be converted into:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;The former COVID czar now admits COVID came from a lab, therefore the lab leak has been proved.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>That would go beyond what Jha himself says.</p><p>There are really two questions:</p><p><strong>1. Has Jha&#8217;s estimate of the probabilities changed?</strong><br>Clearly yes.</p><p><strong>2. Has new publicly available evidence emerged that establishes a laboratory origin?</strong><br>Not from this interview.</p><p>Those are different propositions.</p><p>His statement may reasonably cause someone to <strong>update</strong> their probability of a lab accident upward, particularly because he says his change followed information encountered while serving in government. What we cannot do is independently evaluate information that has not been made public.</p><p>This is precisely why the distinction between evidence and authority matters.</p><p>An appeal to expertise is not automatically fallacious. We rely on specialists constantly because no individual can personally investigate every scientific question. But expertise cannot manufacture evidence that the public has not seen. At some point, if a claim is to become independently established, the underlying evidence has to be available for examination.</p><p>That standard should apply regardless of which direction the expert moves.</p><p>If a former White House official announced tomorrow that previously unseen evidence had convinced him that zoonotic spillover was virtually certain, that statement alone would not prove zoonosis either.</p><p>We should ask him the same question:</p><p><strong>What did you see?</strong></p><p>Until that evidence becomes available, Jha&#8217;s reversal belongs in the laboratory column as a significant informed judgment. It strengthens the case that a laboratory origin deserves serious consideration and continued investigation.</p><p>It does not fill the evidentiary gap identified earlier in this article: <strong>there is still no publicly demonstrated pre-outbreak connection between SARS-CoV-2, or its immediate progenitor, and a Wuhan laboratory.</strong></p><p>That remains the crucial missing link.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Was SARS-CoV-2 man-made?</h2><p>This question deserves a more careful answer than either &#8220;obviously&#8221; or &#8220;impossible.&#8221;</p><p>The furin cleavage site in the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein has drawn particular attention. It helps activate the spike and was absent from the closest known related bat viruses at the start of the pandemic. The DEFUSE proposal also discussed work involving cleavage sites. These facts reasonably raised questions about laboratory manipulation, but they do not provide a genetic signature of it.</p><p>Furin cleavage sites occur naturally in other coronaviruses, and insertions and recombination are normal parts of coronavirus evolution. Knowing how to add such a feature establishes technical capability, not that scientists added this one.</p><p>The paired CGG codons have also been cited as evidence of engineering because CGG is uncommon in SARS-CoV-2. But uncommon does not mean unnatural. CGG pairs occur in naturally evolving viruses, and codon choice alone cannot establish engineering. A peer-reviewed response addresses this argument.</p><p>A 2022 preprint similarly argued that the spacing of restriction sites used to assemble viral genomes suggested a synthetic origin. Critics found that its statistical criteria were selective and that similar patterns occur naturally. A published reanalysis concluded that the restriction map does not establish engineering.</p><p>Modern reverse-genetics methods do not always leave an obvious scar, and laboratory passage may leave no recognizable engineering signature. Genomic analysis therefore cannot rule out every possible manipulation. But technical possibility is not evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was altered. It does not supply the missing precursor, construct, experiment, or laboratory record.</p><p>The influential <em>Proximal Origin</em> paper argued that SARS-CoV-2 was not purposefully constructed. That conclusion remains defensible, but the paper went too far in dismissing every laboratory-based scenario as implausible. Genomic evidence would not resolve an accident involving a naturally collected virus, and passage or seamless alteration might not reveal the virus&#8217;s full history.</p><p>A 2026 <em>Cell</em> study adds evidence against prolonged laboratory adaptation. SARS-CoV-2 showed patterns of natural selection resembling viruses emerging from animal reservoirs, not the shift preceding the laboratory-linked reemergence of H1N1 influenza in 1977. This weakens claims of substantial laboratory adaptation, but does not exclude shorter passage, every engineering method, or an accident involving a natural virus.</p><p>The strongest conclusion is narrower: no credible public evidence demonstrates that SARS-CoV-2 was deliberately constructed, and its genomic features are compatible with natural evolution. Genomic evidence alone, however, cannot eliminate every technically possible form of laboratory manipulation.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Gain of function, Fauci, and the argument over words</h2><p>Gain of function broadly describes research that gives an organism a new ability or enhances an existing one. In virus research, that might mean improving its ability to enter cells, replicate, or use a new receptor. Most gain-of-function research is not especially dangerous. </p><p>The controversy concerns the narrower subset that could make a potential pandemic virus more transmissible or harmful to humans. That distinction became central to the argument over what research the United States funded in Wuhan.</p><p>Experiments that met the broad scientific definition of gain of function did occur. That fact has been obscured by a dispute over definitions.</p><p>In the broad scientific sense, gain of function is not new. Scientists have used mutations, selection, and genetic modification for decades to give bacteria, viruses, and other organisms new or enhanced traits. Much of that work is routine. The serious concern is a narrower group of experiments that may make a potential pathogen more transmissible, more harmful, or better able to infect a new host. <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK285579/">The National Academies explains the difference between the broad category and the narrower risk concern.</a></p><p>Under that broad meaning, coronavirus gain-of-function experiments were conducted. Chimeric viruses were created and tested for changes in replication, receptor use, and disease effects. NIH funding passed through EcoHealth Alliance to coronavirus research at WIV.</p><p>Fauci&#8217;s denial relied on the narrower federal regulatory category used for certain enhanced potential pandemic pathogens. In 2024, NIH Principal Deputy Director Lawrence Tabak acknowledged that, under the generic definition, NIH had funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan. Fauci maintained that the work did not meet the government definition relevant to the regulation under discussion. <a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-118hhrg55830/html/CHRG-118hhrg55830.htm">The hearing transcript records that exchange.</a></p><p>The distinction may matter for regulatory purposes. It did not justify the categorical public statement that NIH had never funded gain-of-function research at WIV.</p><p>A general audience would reasonably have heard that denial in the ordinary scientific sense, not as a reference to a specialized federal review category. A complete answer would have acknowledged that NIH supported experiments qualifying as gain-of-function under the broad meaning, then explained why officials believed the work did not fall under the narrower federal policy.</p><p>That would not have settled whether the research was adequately supervised. It would have stated the issue honestly.</p><p>Fauci made a similar mistake when discussing the origin of the virus. In May 2020, he told <em>National Geographic</em> that the evidence strongly indicated natural evolution and animal-to-human transmission. The article also reported that he did not entertain the possibility that a virus found in nature had been brought into a laboratory and accidentally released. <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd">The genome could not justify dismissing that entire category of laboratory accident.</a></p><p>Scientists had privately discussed laboratory possibilities early in 2020 before several concluded that natural emergence was more likely. There is nothing inherently suspicious about scientists changing an initial view after further analysis. The public record also does not establish that Fauci dictated the conclusion of the <em>Proximal Origin</em> paper.</p><p>The newly released diary and private messages do, however, make the problem with that paper more serious.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ezv-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fada1c588-5d28-4ad1-982e-d7c57c21806b_1600x900.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ezv-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fada1c588-5d28-4ad1-982e-d7c57c21806b_1600x900.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From private uncertainty to public certainty: the development of the Proximal Origin argument.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Peter McCullough has claimed that Kristian Andersen attended a meeting where the participants knew the virus came from a laboratory, then helped craft a fraudulent natural-origin story. Two facts are documented: Andersen participated in the February 1, 2020, teleconference with Fauci, Francis Collins, Jeremy Farrar, and other scientists, and he later became the lead author of <em>Proximal Origin</em>. The claim that the participants knew the virus came from a laboratory is not documented.</p><p>The diary does not support that claim. On January 26, Fauci wrote that the market appeared to have amplified the outbreak rather than started it. In the next sentence, however, he maintained that the virus had jumped from animals to humans. His belief that the market was an amplifier was not a statement that the virus came from a laboratory.</p><p>In a January 31 diary entry, Fauci recorded that scientists on an earlier call were concerned that mutations around the furin cleavage site might have been inserted. They discussed accidental and deliberate release, with &#8220;the former being the most likely.&#8221; <a href="https://www.paul.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/2026.07.24_Tonys-Diary-Package.pdf">The diary entry deserves to be read in context.</a> &#8220;The former&#8221; compares accidental release with deliberate release. It does not say that laboratory release was considered more likely than natural emergence.</p><p>Fauci&#8217;s February 1 notes are just as important. He recorded disagreement within the group. Some scientists believed the feature could arise naturally. Others believed deliberate insertion was possible and that the question required further investigation. The diary shows that a laboratory scenario was being taken seriously in private. It does not record a shared conclusion that the virus came from a laboratory.</p><p>Andersen&#8217;s own communications create a separate issue. On February 8, he wrote that the group had been trying to disprove laboratory theories but that the evidence was not conclusive enough to justify high confidence in any of the three main hypotheses. On February 20, he told a <em>Nature</em> editor that a laboratory origin remained a &#8220;serious scientific theory&#8221; that the available data could not dismiss. <a href="https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/2023.06.16-Andersen-Transcript.pdf">Those communications and Andersen&#8217;s later explanation appear in his House interview transcript.</a></p><p>The published paper included an important caveat, stating that the alternative origin theories could not then be proved or disproved. But it also said the analysis clearly showed that SARS-CoV-2 was not a laboratory construct or purposefully manipulated virus, then concluded that no laboratory-based scenario was plausible. The caveat prevents us from claiming that the authors expressed absolute certainty, but it does not eliminate the conflict between their acknowledged uncertainty and their categorical conclusion.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fg7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc8f7de3-eabc-4447-933e-1609e607d376_1600x900.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fg7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc8f7de3-eabc-4447-933e-1609e607d376_1600x900.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Proximal Origin publicly dismissed laboratory scenarios more categorically than the authors&#8217; private discussions warranted.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The discrepancy did not disappear after publication. In June 2020, Andersen wrote that there was no hard evidence either way, that deliberate insertion could not be ruled out, and that the paper had been too strong in saying there was &#8220;no way.&#8221; He continued to believe the virus was natural, but also wrote that, &#8220;given no data,&#8221; he considered the natural and laboratory scenarios equally probable and was moving back toward the middle.</p><p>Andersen has explained that &#8220;trying to disprove&#8221; a laboratory origin meant trying to falsify his initial hypothesis, which is a normal part of the scientific method. He also testified that Fauci and Collins prompted the group to examine the origin and consider writing a paper, but did not control the drafting. No released document shows Fauci or the authors possessing proof of a laboratory origin or knowingly writing a conclusion they believed was false.</p><p>That does not excuse the paper&#8217;s language. A paper may reach a defensible conclusion and still state it with more certainty than its evidence permits. The private record supports calling <em>Proximal Origin</em> overconfident and misleading in the way it dismissed laboratory scenarios. It also raises fair questions about whether institutional or political concerns influenced how the conclusion was presented. </p><p>The released material demonstrates a serious mismatch between the authors&#8217; private uncertainty and their public confidence. But it does not show that they knowingly presented a conclusion they believed was false or that they fabricated or falsified evidence. It therefore does not establish scientific fraud.</p><p>This distinction is not a defense of the paper. It is the evidentiary line. Private uncertainty can expose public overstatement. It cannot prove that the uncertain alternative was correct.</p><p>There is still a legitimate question about candor and institutional interest. NIAID had funded coronavirus research through EcoHealth Alliance. Fauci had a particular responsibility to distinguish what the evidence supported, what it could not exclude, and what his agency had funded. His categorical language failed that standard.</p><p>His July 29, 2026, Senate appearance did not resolve the matter. Fauci <a href="https://abcnews.com/Health/fauci-invokes-5th-amendment-senate-testimony-refrains-answering/story?id=135185235">repeatedly invoked the Fifth Amendment</a> and declined to answer questions about the pandemic response and the origin debate. That decision can reasonably affect how people judge his openness. It did not add new virological evidence to the origin question. <a href="https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/hearings/testimony-of-anthony-fauci/">The hearing occurred, but the scientific evidence did not change with it.</a></p><p>This distinction is essential. Evidence that Fauci was evasive, imprecise, or protecting an institution would be evidence about Fauci&#8217;s conduct. It would not establish the physical history of SARS-CoV-2.</p><p>The same applies to gain-of-function research. Proving that relevant experiments occurred establishes capability, risk, and the need for honest oversight. 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></div><p>Before reaching a verdict, we should ask what evidence would make us change it.</p><p>What would materially strengthen a laboratory origin?</p><ul><li><p>A securely documented pre-outbreak laboratory sample or sequence close enough to be the immediate progenitor of SARS-CoV-2</p></li><li><p>Contemporaneous records showing that such a virus was collected, cultured, altered, or passaged</p></li><li><p>A verified pre-outbreak infection in a researcher, supported by sequence data and a credible chain of transmission</p></li><li><p>Laboratory incident, inventory, or staff-health records connecting a specific event to the earliest outbreak</p></li></ul><p>What would materially strengthen the zoonotic case?</p><ul><li><p>A pre-outbreak animal or farm sample containing SARS-CoV-2 or its immediate progenitor</p></li><li><p>Supply-chain records connecting infected wildlife to Huanan or another Wuhan market</p></li><li><p>More complete early patient and sequence data showing that the outbreak consistently radiated from the wildlife trade</p></li><li><p>Independent evidence confirming that the early lineages represent separate animal-to-human introductions</p></li></ul><p>What would weaken my present conclusion?</p><ul><li><p>Reliable evidence of an earlier outbreak centered somewhere other than Huanan</p></li><li><p>Proof that biased case-finding and sampling largely created the apparent market clustering</p></li><li><p>Laboratory records showing possession of a pre-outbreak virus much closer to SARS-CoV-2 than anything yet found in nature</p></li></ul><p>There is also a more personal test.</p><ul><li><p>Am I treating the failure to find an infected market animal as proof that no infected animal existed? No.</p></li><li><p>Am I treating China&#8217;s failure to release laboratory records as proof that a leak occurred? No.</p></li><li><p>Am I allowing my judgment of Fauci to substitute for evidence about the virus? No.</p></li><li><p>Am I treating the <em>Proximal Origin</em> authors&#8217; private doubts as proof that the laboratory hypothesis was true? No.</p></li><li><p>Would I accept the same quality of inference if it supported the conclusion I was inclined to reject?</p></li></ul><p>That last question is the one we should continue asking.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Where the evidence leaves us</h2><p>The publicly available scientific evidence currently favors a zoonotic emergence associated with the wildlife trade and the Huanan market. The early-case geography, the sale of susceptible mammals, and the concentration of viral material around the wildlife stalls form a cumulative case that the laboratory hypothesis has not matched with comparable publicly available origin-specific evidence.</p><p>My confidence in that conclusion is moderate, not absolute.</p><p>We still do not know the immediate animal host. We do not know where the first transmission occurred. And we cannot fully evaluate a research-related incident because China has not provided records needed to investigate it.</p><p>The laboratory hypothesis remains possible and deserves continued investigation. Former White House COVID response coordinator Ashish Jha has recently said that he now considers an accidental laboratory leak more likely, explaining that information he encountered while serving in government shifted his assessment toward that possibility. That is a significant informed judgment from someone who had access to government information. But because the underlying evidence has not been made public, his assessment does not provide the missing independently verifiable link connecting SARS-CoV-2 to a Wuhan laboratory before the outbreak.</p><p>Experiments that met the broad scientific definition of gain-of-function research did occur. Fauci&#8217;s categorical denial relied on a narrower regulatory definition and was misleading to the public. He also spoke too broadly when dismissing the possibility of an accidental laboratory release. China has not provided information that should have been made available for an independent origins investigation years ago.</p><p>The newly released diary and messages make the candor problem worse. They show that laboratory scenarios received serious private consideration and that the authors of <em>Proximal Origin</em> expressed more uncertainty than their published language conveyed. They do not show that anyone knew SARS-CoV-2 came from a laboratory.</p><p>Each of those facts matters. None completes the missing chain from a Wuhan laboratory to the first human infection.</p><p>The evidence does not justify saying that both origins are equally supported. It also does not justify declaring the laboratory hypothesis impossible.</p><p>The honest conclusion is narrower:</p><p>The published scientific evidence presently provides a stronger affirmative case for a connection to the Huanan market than the publicly available evidence provides for a specific laboratory accident. But that comparison has an important limitation: substantially more relevant market and outbreak data are publicly available than the laboratory records needed to investigate the competing hypothesis.</p><p>The circumstantial laboratory case is meaningful and substantial enough to warrant continued investigation, while the publicly available evidence connecting a specific Wuhan laboratory virus, experiment, worker, or incident to the beginning of the outbreak remains missing.</p><p>Zoonotic spillover is therefore supported by more publicly available origin-specific evidence. How much greater confidence that should produce is legitimately disputed, particularly while critical laboratory records remain inaccessible.</p><p>That conclusion should change if better evidence appears. Until then, we should not confuse suspicion with proof, or uncertainty with equal evidence.</p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If you value analysis that follows the evidence rather than defending a predetermined conclusion, subscribe to <em>A Mind Less Wasted</em>. You will receive future investigations and critical-thinking articles directly in your inbox.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center;">Follow the Evidence. Think Critically. </p><p style="text-align: center;">Question Everything.  Question Yourself</p></div><p></p><div><hr></div><h2>Resources</h2><h3>Huanan market and zoonotic evidence</h3><ul><li><p>Worobey et al., &#8220;<a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715">The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic</a>,&#8221; <em>Science</em>, 2022.</p></li><li><p>Crits-Christoph et al., &#8220;<a href="https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674%2824%2900901-2">Genetic tracing of market wildlife and viruses at the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic</a>,&#8221; <em>Cell</em>, 2024.</p></li><li><p>Pekar et al., &#8220;<a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8337">The molecular epidemiology of multiple zoonotic origins of SARS-CoV-2</a>,&#8221; <em>Science</em>, 2022.</p></li><li><p>Bloom, &#8220;<a href="https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/42/6/msaf118/8158589">The Data are Insufficient to Confidently Root the SARS-CoV-2 Phylogenetic Tree</a>,&#8221; <em>Molecular Biology and Evolution</em>, 2025.</p></li><li><p>Liu et al., &#8220;<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06043-2">Surveillance of SARS-CoV-2 at the Huanan Seafood Market</a>,&#8221; <em>Nature</em>, 2023, updated 2024.</p></li><li><p>Bloom, &#8220;<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ve/article/9/2/vead050/7249794">Association between SARS-CoV-2 and metagenomic content of samples from the Huanan Seafood Market</a>,&#8221; <em>Virus Evolution</em>, 2023.</p></li><li><p>D&#233;barre, &#8220;<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ve/article/10/1/vead077/7503693">What we can and cannot learn from SARS-CoV-2 and animals in metagenomic samples from the Huanan market</a>,&#8221; <em>Virus Evolution</em>, 2024.</p></li><li><p>World Health Organization, &#8220;<a href="https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/documents/epp/sago/independent-assessment-of-the-origins-of-sars-cov-2-by-sago.pdf?download=true">Independent assessment of the origins of SARS-CoV-2</a>,&#8221; SAGO, 2025.</p></li></ul><h3>Wuhan coronavirus research and laboratory hypotheses</h3><ul><li><p>Menachery et al., &#8220;<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985">A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence</a>,&#8221; <em>Nature Medicine</em>, 2015.</p></li><li><p>Hu et al., &#8220;<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5708621/">Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus</a>,&#8221; <em>PLOS Pathogens</em>, 2017.</p></li><li><p>EcoHealth Alliance, &#8220;<a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal/">Project DEFUSE proposal</a>,&#8221; submitted to DARPA, 2018.</p></li><li><p>Tyshkovskiy and Panchin, &#8220;<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8646886/">There is still no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 laboratory origin</a>,&#8221; <em>BioEssays</em>, 2021.</p></li><li><p>Wu, Liu, Liu and Deigin, &#8220;<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9937728/">Updated analysis to reject the laboratory-engineering hypothesis of SARS-CoV-2</a>,&#8221; 2023.</p></li><li><p>Andersen et al., &#8220;<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9">The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2</a>,&#8221; <em>Nature Medicine</em>, 2020.</p></li><li><p>Havens et al., &#8220;<a href="https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674%2826%2900171-6">Dynamics of natural selection preceding human viral epidemics and pandemics</a>,&#8221; <em>Cell</em>, 2026.</p></li></ul><h3>Gain-of-function definitions and oversight</h3><ul><li><p>National Academies, &#8220;<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK285579/">Gain-of-Function Research: Background and Alternatives</a>,&#8221; 2015.</p></li><li><p>U.S. Government Publishing Office, &#8220;<a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-118hhrg55830/html/CHRG-118hhrg55830.htm">A Hearing with Dr. Anthony Fauci</a>,&#8221; House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic, 2024.</p></li></ul><h3>Fauci, Andersen, and <em>Proximal Origin</em></h3><ul><li><p>&#8220;<a href="https://www.paul.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/2026.07.24_Tonys-Diary-Package.pdf">Tony&#8217;s Diary</a>,&#8221; official release through Senator Rand Paul&#8217;s Senate Reading Room, 2026.</p></li><li><p>House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, &#8220;<a href="https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/2023.06.16-Andersen-Transcript.pdf">Transcribed Interview of Kristian Andersen</a>,&#8221; June 16, 2023.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;<a href="https://www.paul.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/slack-drop-AM.pdf">Released Slack messages involving the </a><em><a href="https://www.paul.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/slack-drop-AM.pdf">Proximal Origin</a></em><a href="https://www.paul.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/slack-drop-AM.pdf"> authors</a>,&#8221; Senate Reading Room, 2026.</p></li><li><p><em>National Geographic</em>, &#8220;<a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd">Anthony Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab</a>,&#8221; May 2020.</p></li><li><p>Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, &#8220;<a href="https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/hearings/testimony-of-anthony-fauci/">Testimony of Anthony Fauci</a>,&#8221; July 29, 2026.</p></li></ul><h3>Intelligence assessments</h3><ul><li><p>Office of the Director of National Intelligence, &#8220;<a href="https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Unclassified-Summary-of-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf">Unclassified Summary of Assessment on COVID-19 Origins</a>,&#8221; 2021.</p></li><li><p>Associated Press, &#8220;<a href="https://apnews.com/article/9ab7e84c626fed68ca13c8d2e453dde1">CIA believes COVID-19 most likely originated from a lab but has low confidence in its own finding</a>,&#8221; January 2025.</p></li><li><p>Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, &#8220;<a href="https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Reports%20and%20Pubs/COVID-19_Release_DNI_Gabbard_6-18_Part-2.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com">COVID-19 Lab Modification Conditions Present at WIV</a>,&#8221; May 27, 2020, declassified by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in 2026.</p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">A Mind Less Wasted is a reader-supported publication. 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Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2026 12:03:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0T0k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06b9e5eb-e29e-4770-924d-1cf9600066cd_1536x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0T0k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06b9e5eb-e29e-4770-924d-1cf9600066cd_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0T0k!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06b9e5eb-e29e-4770-924d-1cf9600066cd_1536x1024.png 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" 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data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/NicHulscher/status/2073778291664658918&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;CRIME OF THE CENTURY:\n\n1. First Study Finds COVID-19 \&quot;Vaccines\&quot; Increase Risk of Multiple Cancers: <a class=\&quot;tweet-url\&quot; href=\&quot;https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12465339/\&quot;>pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12&#8230;</a>\n\n2. Second Study Finds COVID-19 \&quot;Vaccines\&quot; Increase Risk of Multiple Cancers: <a class=\&quot;tweet-url\&quot; href=\&quot;https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12381369/\&quot;>pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12&#8230;</a>\n\n3. 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This population-wide cohort analysis was aimed at evaluating the risk of all-cause death and cancer ...&quot;,&quot;domain&quot;:&quot;pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&quot;,&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/news_img/2079569859273248768/H26vlyK0?format=jpg&amp;name=orig&quot;},&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>He followed that claim with ten links.</p><p>At first glance, the list looks formidable: two large population studies, government cancer data, reports involving more than 300 patients, claims of genomic integration and spike protein in cancer cells, and 17 proposed mechanisms supposedly backed by more than 100 studies.</p><p>That is exactly why a link dump is persuasive. The reader absorbs the combined weight of the list before having time to ask three basic questions:</p><ol><li><p>What did each source actually study?</p></li><li><p>What can that type of evidence establish?</p></li><li><p>Are these ten independent lines of evidence, or is some of the same material being counted more than once?</p></li></ol><p>Once those questions are asked, the &#8220;wall of evidence&#8221; starts to look very different.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The burden of proof</h2><p><span>This article isn&#8217;t saying that every source is useless, that no cancer signals could ever pop up, or that COVID-19 vaccines have been definitively shown to have no impact on cancer in any situation.<br><br>Those are entirely different assertions.<br><br>The question here is narrower: Do these ten links establish the categorical claim attached to them?</span></p><p><span>Calling something a carcinogenic agent is a causal claim. So is saying that it increases the risk of seven cancers through 17 mechanisms. Evidence that raises a question, describes an event after vaccination, identifies a possible mechanism, or shows two trends moving together may justify further research. By itself, it does not establish either conclusion.<br><br>That distinction is crucial. If a strong claim shifts to &#8220;this needs more research&#8221; as soon as we dig into the citations, then those citations didn&#8217;t really support the claim as it was originally presented.</span></p><div><hr></div><h2>What is actually in the list?</h2><p>The ten links are not ten studies that independently reached the same conclusion. They are a mixture of very different forms of evidence:</p><ol><li><p><strong>A South Korean retrospective cohort study.</strong> It reports statistical associations between vaccination and six cancer diagnoses during one year of follow-up.</p></li><li><p><strong>An Italian retrospective cohort study.</strong> It reports associations with cancer hospitalization that change when the analysis uses a different lag period.</p></li><li><p><strong>Hulscher&#8217;s analysis of federal cancer statistics.</strong> It identifies population-level trends, but the data do not connect individual cancer diagnoses with individual vaccination histories.</p></li><li><p><strong>A pseudonymous analyst&#8217;s model of CDC mortality data.</strong> It produces an excess-death estimate from the analyst&#8217;s chosen baseline and adjustments. The underlying death records come from the CDC. The conclusion does not.</p></li><li><p><strong>A scoping review dominated by case reports and small case series.</strong> It collects malignancies reported after vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection and proposes questions for further study.</p></li><li><p><strong>A single bladder-cancer case report.</strong> It reports one short genetic sequence in circulating tumor DNA that the authors interpret as a possible vaccine-related integration event.</p></li><li><p><strong>A small exploratory transcriptomic study.</strong> It compares three patients with new health problems and seven patients with cancer after vaccination against historical reference samples.</p></li><li><p><strong>A single metastatic breast-cancer case report.</strong> It reports spike-protein staining in one patient&#8217;s metastatic tumor cells.</p></li><li><p><strong>A narrative review promoting the &#8220;turbo cancer&#8221; hypothesis.</strong> It relies on case reports, VAERS reports, and proposed mechanisms. The authors acknowledge that &#8220;turbo cancer&#8221; is not a formally recognized oncologic classification.</p></li><li><p><strong>A Substack article summarizing another writer&#8217;s proposed mechanisms.</strong> It collects mechanistic arguments and describes them as 17 ways mRNA vaccines may cause cancer.</p></li></ol><p>This is the first thing the wall of links conceals. Population studies, individual cases, ecological trends, laboratory findings, reviews, and blog posts are presented as if they were interchangeable pieces of proof.</p><p>They are not.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pXKX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F505de285-510f-4b76-a220-f77217a29470_1600x1000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pXKX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F505de285-510f-4b76-a220-f77217a29470_1600x1000.png 424w, 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Several sources also reuse evidence counted elsewhere, so the list overstates both the consistency and independence of the evidence.</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><h2>Ten links are not ten independent confirmations</h2><p><span>The list also creates an impression of independence that is not there.<br><br>Links three and ten are actually Hulscher&#8217;s own Substack articles. Plus, Hulscher coauthored links six and seven, which also feature other members from the same research team. While this doesn&#8217;t invalidate the work, it does mean those links can&#8217;t be seen as independent support for Hulscher&#8217;s claims.<br><br>As for the fifth source, the Oncotarget review, it pulls in the South Korean and Italian cohort studies that we&#8217;ve already counted as links one and two. It also includes the metastatic breast-cancer case that&#8217;s separately listed as link eight.<br><br>So, the same evidence is essentially being counted twice. First, it shows up as its own citation, and then it pops up again in a review, adding another link to the tally.<br><br>This doesn&#8217;t amount to ten independent pieces of evidence. Instead, it&#8217;s a smaller set of evidence repackaged in a few different ways.</span></p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h2>&#9749; Coffee Break</h2><p>Ten links can look like ten witnesses telling the same story.</p><p>But some of these witnesses are repeating one another. Some describe a single unusual event. Others explain what might be biologically possible. Only two attempt to measure cancer outcomes in large populations.</p><p>That is the argument so far, in plain English: ten citations are not necessarily ten independent pieces of evidence.</p><p>Now refill your coffee. It is time to open the strongest links and see what they actually show.</p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Start with the strongest evidence</h2><p>The two large cohort studies are the most relevant sources because they compare cancer outcomes across defined populations.</p><h3>The South Korean study</h3><p>The first paper drew from health records for more than 8.4 million people in South Korea. After propensity-score matching, the analysis included 595,007 vaccinated participants and 2,380,028 unvaccinated participants. The researchers reported statistical associations between vaccination and six cancer diagnoses during one year of follow-up.</p><p>That result should not be ignored. It is a signal that deserves careful examination.</p><p>It is not proof that vaccination caused those cancers.</p><p>The authors called their results &#8220;epidemiological associations&#8221; and said further studies were needed to clarify possible causal relationships. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40364-025-00831-w">The journal also carries an editor&#8217;s note</a>, added on October 22, 2025, stating that concerns had been raised and were under investigation. The paper has not been retracted, but readers should know that its methods are being formally questioned.</p><p><a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/public-health/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2026.1772406/full">A published methodological commentary</a> identified several problems that could materially affect the findings:</p><ul><li><p>Vaccinated and unvaccinated participants were assigned different index dates, creating a risk of calendar-time bias.</p></li><li><p>The analysis could not adequately control for important factors such as smoking, alcohol use, family history, genetic susceptibility, and screening frequency.</p></li><li><p>Vaccinated participants may have used health care and cancer screening differently, increasing the chance that pre-existing cancers would be detected.</p></li><li><p>Thirty site-specific and subgroup analyses were performed without a correction for multiple comparisons, increasing the likelihood of chance findings.</p></li><li><p>A one-year window is poorly suited to attributing the development of most solid tumors to a new exposure, especially without excluding cancers diagnosed soon after vaccination.</p></li></ul><p>These criticisms do not prove that every reported association is false. They do show why the study cannot carry the conclusion Hulscher places on it.</p><p>An observational association, particularly one vulnerable to timing, surveillance, confounding, and multiple-testing problems, does not establish that a vaccine is a carcinogen.</p><h3>The Italian study</h3><p>The second paper followed 296,015 residents of Pescara province for up to 30 months. In its main analysis, people who received at least one dose had a modestly higher rate of hospitalization with a cancer diagnosis than unvaccinated residents.</p><p>Again, that finding deserves examination. But the paper&#8217;s own sensitivity analyses make the result far less definitive than the link dump suggests.</p><p>When the researchers required at least 365 days between vaccination and cancer hospitalization, the association for people who received at least one dose was no longer statistically significant. Among those who received three or more doses, the association reversed, with a slightly lower rate of cancer hospitalization.</p><p>The study also found no clear dose-response pattern. People who received three or more doses did not show a higher overall cancer-hospitalization risk than people who received at least one dose. The authors noted residual confounding, differences in health-care-seeking behavior, possible misclassification of prior infection, and healthy-vaccinee bias. They also stressed that hospitalization records are only a proxy for all new cancer diagnoses.</p><p>The paper&#8217;s conclusion was appropriately cautious: the results varied by infection status, cancer site, and the lag period selected, and the findings were preliminary.</p><p>The link-dump version removes that uncertainty and turns the paper into &#8220;a second study proves vaccines increase cancer.&#8221;</p><p>That is not what the paper shows.</p><h2>Government data, private conclusions</h2><p>The third and fourth links borrow credibility from the agencies that produced the underlying data: the National Cancer Institute and the CDC.</p><p>Neither agency produced the conclusions attached to those links.</p><h3>Cancer-incidence trends</h3><p>The third source is Hulscher&#8217;s analysis of National Cancer Institute SEER data. He compares cancer rates among Americans younger than 50 from 2021 through 2023 and attributes the increase to the vaccination campaign.</p><p>The reported rates come from SEER. The causal attribution does not.</p><p>Population-level trend data can indicate shifts in cancer rates during times of widespread vaccination. However, they can't definitively prove that vaccination was the reason for those changes. The dataset referenced in the article doesn't connect an individual's vaccination status to their cancer diagnosis. It lacks comparison groups for vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals and fails to distinguish between the effects of vaccination and factors like infections, changes in screening practices, delayed diagnoses, demographic shifts, or cancer trends that may have started before the vaccine was introduced.</p><p><a href="https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html">The National Cancer Institute has also warned</a> that pandemic-related disruptions in screening and diagnosis complicate cancer-trend analysis. That does not explain every increase after 2021, and it should not be used as a catch-all dismissal. It does mean that a raw change across a few years cannot be assigned to one exposure simply because the timelines overlap.</p><p>That would be an ecological inference, not an individual-level causal result.</p><h3>Cancer-mortality trends</h3><p>The fourth source uses CDC death records to estimate more than 138,000 excess cancer deaths since 2021. But that figure is not a CDC estimate. It comes from a model produced by the author of The Ethical Skeptic.</p><p>Every excess-death estimate depends on choices about the expected baseline, population changes, age structure, time periods, exclusions, and adjustments. Different defensible choices can produce different estimates.</p><p>The CDC supplies the underlying records. It does not endorse this model, its assumptions, or the attribution of the modeled excess to vaccination.</p><p>Saying &#8220;CDC data show&#8221; blurs the line between the source of the numbers and the source of the conclusion. Government data do not turn a private analysis into a government finding.</p><p>Most importantly, the model does not contain individual vaccination histories. Even if the excess estimate were accepted exactly as calculated, it would not identify vaccination as the cause.</p><h2>Case reports are signals, not verdicts</h2><p>Several of the remaining sources depend heavily on case reports.</p><p>Case reports matter. They can document an unusual event, alert clinicians to a possible pattern, and generate hypotheses for larger studies. Many genuine medical discoveries began with one careful observation.</p><p>But case reports have no unexposed comparison group and no denominator. They cannot tell us how often an event occurs, whether it occurs more often after vaccination than without vaccination, or whether vaccination caused it.</p><h3>The review of 333 patients</h3><p>The fifth link sounds like a large clinical investigation involving 333 patients. It was actually a scoping review of 69 publications about cancers reported in temporal association with either vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection.</p><p>The review identified 66 article-level reports describing 333 patients, plus two retrospective population studies and one longitudinal population analysis. Fifty-five of the 69 publications were single-patient case reports or small case series.</p><p>The authors openly described the limits of that evidence. They said the review was not designed to estimate cancer risk, establish causality, or guide individual vaccination decisions. They noted publication bias, selective reporting, inconsistent clinical information, heterogeneous cases, and the absence of comparable control observations.</p><p>The authors believe the recurring reports and proposed mechanisms form a biologically plausible signal that deserves organized surveillance. That is a fair description of their interpretation. It is still a hypothesis drawn from an evidence base they acknowledge cannot estimate risk or establish causation.</p><p>They also stated that no current study had demonstrated oncogenic transformation or tumor initiation causally attributable to a COVID-19 mRNA vaccine or its components.</p><p>Those admissions answer the question this article is asking.</p><p>The review documents reports that occurred after vaccination or infection. It does not document 333 cancers caused by vaccination. It also recycles several sources counted elsewhere in Hulscher&#8217;s list.</p><h3>The bladder-cancer report</h3><p>The sixth link is a case report about a 31-year-old woman who developed aggressive stage IV bladder cancer after receiving three Moderna doses.</p><p>The authors reported a single host-vector chimeric read in circulating tumor DNA. A 20-base segment aligned with a portion of a Pfizer spike-plasmid reference, even though the patient had received Moderna. The paper argues that the vaccines share spike-coding sequences and that no official Moderna plasmid reference was available for comparison.</p><p>The paper&#8217;s own table, however, reports a viral mapping quality of 6, labeled &#8220;low confidence,&#8221; and classifies the finding as &#8220;Possible Host Translocation: TRUE.&#8221; The authors also call for validation using an independent method such as long-read sequencing.</p><p>Those details are important. The paper&#8217;s conclusion describes genomic integration as documented, but the reported evidence is a single short read from circulating tumor DNA that still requires orthogonal confirmation.</p><p>Even if future testing confirms that an integration event occurred, one event in one patient would not establish that it initiated her cancer, that such events are common, or that vaccination increases cancer risk in the population.</p><p>The authors themselves acknowledge that causality cannot be established from a single case.</p><h3>The metastatic breast-cancer report</h3><p>The eighth link describes an 85-year-old woman who had already been treated for breast cancer. A skin metastasis appeared after her sixth Pfizer dose. The tumor cells stained positive for spike protein and negative for nucleocapsid protein, leading the author to suggest that the spike protein may have come from vaccination.</p><p>This was not a new cancer arising in a previously cancer-free patient. It was metastatic disease in a patient with a prior breast-cancer diagnosis.</p><p>The finding may justify further investigation into the origin and significance of the staining. It does not show that the vaccine initiated the cancer, caused the recurrence, or drove the metastasis.</p><p>Even if the protein&#8217;s vaccine origin were confirmed, presence is not causation. Detecting a protein in tumor cells does not demonstrate that the protein created the tumor or changed its clinical course.</p><h2>The control group determines what a study can claim</h2><p>The seventh link examines gene expression in three patients with new nonmalignant health problems after vaccination and seven patients diagnosed with cancer after vaccination.</p><p>The authors compared those ten patients with 803 historical RNA-sequencing samples from the GTEx database, collected before the COVID-19 vaccination era.</p><p>That comparison can show that the selected patients&#8217; gene-expression profiles differ from the historical reference samples. It cannot identify vaccination as the reason.</p><p>The cancer patients already had a condition known to profoundly alter gene expression. The study did not include a matched group of vaccinated people without cancer or a matched group of unvaccinated people with the same cancers. Without those comparison groups, the analysis cannot separate the effects of cancer, treatment, age, sex, tissue handling, laboratory procedures, infection history, or other patient differences from any possible effect of vaccination.</p><p>The sample was also tiny and selected because the participants had already experienced the outcomes under investigation.</p><p>The study may generate hypotheses about pathways worth testing. It does not establish that vaccination caused the cancers in those seven patients or that it raises cancer risk in the wider population.</p><h2>A mechanism is not a measured disease risk</h2><p>The ninth and tenth links move from observed outcomes to proposed biological mechanisms.</p><p>Mechanistic evidence can be important in causal inference. It may show that a biological effect is possible under particular experimental conditions and can help explain a pattern found in well-designed epidemiological studies.</p><p>What it cannot do by itself is establish how often that mechanism occurs in vaccinated people, at what dose, in which tissues, for how long, or whether it produces a measurable increase in cancer.</p><h3>The &#8220;turbo cancer&#8221; review</h3><p>The ninth source promotes &#8220;COVID-19 mRNA-induced turbo cancers&#8221; as a proposed syndrome. Its authors acknowledge that &#8220;turbo cancer&#8221; is not a formally recognized oncologic classification. The article draws on case reports, proposed mechanisms, and VAERS reports to support a multi-hit hypothesis.</p><p>VAERS is an early-warning system. It is designed to identify reporting patterns that may deserve further investigation. It cannot calculate cancer incidence from report counts, and a report does not establish that a vaccine caused the event. <a href="https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html">The VAERS program itself states</a> that reports alone cannot determine causation, frequency, severity, or rates.</p><p>The review can propose a hypothesis. Naming that hypothesis and collecting reports around it do not validate the diagnosis or establish the causal mechanism.</p><h3>Seventeen proposed mechanisms</h3><p>The tenth link is Hulscher&#8217;s summary of a separate article claiming that mRNA vaccines may cause cancer through 17 pathways supported by more than 100 studies.</p><p>That wording creates the impression that 100 studies directly compared cancer outcomes in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.</p><p>They did not.</p><p>The supporting material includes general cancer biology, laboratory experiments, research on SARS-CoV-2 infection, case reports, narrative reviews, and studies of molecular pathways. Much of it does not directly test whether COVID-19 vaccination causes cancer in humans.</p><p>A substance can affect a pathway involved in cancer biology without causing cancer. Cells use many of the same immune, inflammatory, repair, stress, and growth pathways in ordinary physiology and in disease. To move from pathway effects to a real-world causal claim, researchers still need evidence about exposure, dose, timing, persistence, effect size, clinical outcomes, and what happens in an appropriate comparison group.</p><p>Seventeen proposed pathways are not seventeen demonstrated causes. One hundred references are not one hundred studies of cancer incidence after vaccination.</p><h2>What the citations actually support</h2><p>Once the links are separated by evidence type and read on their own terms, the collection supports a much narrower conclusion.</p><p>It contains:</p><ul><li><p>two observational signals whose results are limited by design choices, confounding, surveillance, and inconsistent sensitivity analyses;</p></li><li><p>two population-level interpretations that cannot link vaccination to individual cancer outcomes;</p></li><li><p>case reports that document unusual observations but cannot measure comparative risk or establish causation;</p></li><li><p>one very small transcriptomic comparison without the control groups needed to isolate a vaccine effect;</p></li><li><p>reviews and articles proposing biological mechanisms that have not been shown to produce increased cancer incidence in vaccinated people;</p></li><li><p>repeated evidence and overlapping authorship that make the ten links less independent than they appear.</p></li></ul><p>That evidence can support continued monitoring, independent replication, better-designed cohort studies, and targeted mechanistic research.</p><p>It does not establish that COVID-19 vaccines are a carcinogenic biological agent. It does not show that they caused seven major cancers across the global population. It does not demonstrate that the proposed 17 mechanisms produce cancer in vaccinated people.</p><p>There is an important difference between saying, &#8220;Here are signals that deserve further investigation,&#8221; and declaring that most of humanity was injected with a carcinogen.</p><p>The first is a research question.</p><p>The second is a conclusion.</p><p>These citations do not bridge the distance between them.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Assessment</h2><p><strong>Claim:</strong> COVID-19 vaccines are a carcinogenic biological agent that increases the risk of seven major cancers through 17 distinct mechanisms.</p><p><strong>Finding:</strong> Not established by the cited evidence.</p><p>That finding does not prove that the true risk must be zero. It means the person making the categorical claim has not met the burden of proof with the evidence presented.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>The Link Dump Fallacy works because quantity becomes a shortcut for credibility. Most readers do not have time to open ten papers, examine the methods, trace repeated citations, identify missing control groups, and distinguish an agency&#8217;s data from a blogger&#8217;s interpretation.</p><p>The person posting the links knows that. The size of the list becomes part of the persuasion.</p><p>It also creates an enormous imbalance of effort. A claim and ten links can be posted in seconds. Checking them can take hours or days. By the time someone has finished auditing the evidence, the original post may have reached thousands of people.</p><p>That does not make every long bibliography suspicious. Serious arguments often require many sources. The warning sign is when the number of citations is treated as the argument and unlike forms of evidence are stacked together as if they all prove the same thing.</p><p>The defense often changes once the links are examined. A claim that began as certainty becomes &#8220;Are you saying we should not investigate?&#8221; No. Questions should be investigated. Signals should be followed. Case reports should be documented. Plausible mechanisms should be tested.</p><p>But a call for research cannot be used to defend a conclusion that the research has not established.</p><p>When you encounter a wall of citations, do not begin by counting them. Open the first source. Ask what was studied, what the design can show, whether the authors reached the conclusion being attributed to them, and whether the next citation provides new evidence or merely repeats the first.</p><p>You do not need to prove that every source is worthless. Some may contain valuable observations. The fallacy lies in treating the collection itself as proof before the individual sources have earned that conclusion.</p><p>The next time someone says, &#8220;Here are 100 studies,&#8221; ask a better question:</p><p><strong>How many still support the claim after they have been opened?</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>If this article gave you a better way to evaluate a wall of citations, subscribe to <em>A Mind Less Wasted</em> for more evidence-based fact-checks and critical-thinking tools.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>And if you know someone who has ever been confronted with &#8220;Here are 100 studies,&#8221; share this article with them.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-link-dump-fallacy-part-two-a?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/the-link-dump-fallacy-part-two-a?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Resources</h2><h3>Original post</h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://x.com/NicHulscher/status/2073778291664658918">Nicolas Hulscher&#8217;s post on X</a></p></li></ul><h3>The ten links in the original post</h3><ol><li><p><em><a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40364-025-00831-w">1-year risks of cancers associated with COVID-19 vaccination: a large population-based cohort study in South Korea</a></em>, <em>Biomarker Research</em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://www.excli.de/vol24/2025-8400/2025-8400.htm">COVID-19 vaccination, all-cause mortality, and hospitalization for cancer: 30-month cohort study in an Italian province</a></em>, <em>EXCLI Journal</em></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-us-government-cancer-data">&#8220;U.S. Government Cancer Data Shows Early-Onset Cancers Surged 6.4% From 2021 to 2023&#8221;</a>, Nicolas Hulscher, <em>The Focal Points</em></p></li><li><p><a href="https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/10/02/the-state-of-things-pandemic-week-38-2024/">&#8220;The State of Things Pandemic: Week 38 2024&#8221;</a>, <em>The Ethical Skeptic</em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://www.oncotarget.com/article/28824/text/">COVID vaccination and post-infection cancer signals: Evaluating patterns and potential biological mechanisms</a></em>, <em>Oncotarget</em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://ijirms.in/index.php/ijirms/article/view/2130">Genomic Integration and Molecular Dysregulation in Aggressive Stage IV Bladder Cancer Following COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination</a></em>, <em>International Journal of Innovative Research in Medical Science</em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12767256/">Synthetic messenger RNA vaccines and transcriptomic dysregulation: Evidence from new-onset adverse events and cancers post-vaccination</a></em>, <em>World Journal of Experimental Medicine</em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jdermsci.2025.09.007">A case of metastatic breast carcinoma to the skin expressing SARS-CoV-2 spike protein possibly derived from mRNA vaccine</a></em>, <em>Journal of Dermatological Science</em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://journalofindependentmedicine.org/articles/v01n03a02/">COVID-19 mRNA-Induced &#8220;Turbo Cancers&#8221;</a></em>, <em>Journal of Independent Medicine</em></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/17-ways-mrna-shots-may-cause-cancer">&#8220;17 Ways mRNA Shots May Cause Cancer, According to Over 100 Studies&#8221;</a>, Nicolas Hulscher, <em>The Focal Points</em></p></li></ol><h3>Additional sources used in this analysis</h3><ul><li><p><em><a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/public-health/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2026.1772406/full">Commentary: 1-year risks of cancers associated with COVID-19 vaccination: a large population-based cohort study in South Korea</a></em>, <em>Frontiers in Public Health</em></p></li><li><p><a href="https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html">Impact of COVID-19 on SEER Data Releases</a>, National Cancer Institute</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html">VAERS data: key considerations and limitations</a>, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services</p></li></ul><h3>Related</h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/p/the-link-dump-fallacy-part-one">The Link Dump Fallacy, Part One</a>, <em>A Mind Less Wasted</em></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Did Steve Kirsch Prove Fauci Suffered a COVID Vaccine Injury?]]></title><description><![CDATA[The evidence confirms Fauci suffered a pulmonary infarct. It does not establish that Moderna caused it or that he deliberately concealed a vaccine injury.]]></description><link>https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/did-steve-kirsch-prove-fauci-suffered</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.amindlesswasted.com/p/did-steve-kirsch-prove-fauci-suffered</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[V. J. Mercer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 22:50:13 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y4a5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4cfb3cb-62b6-4c22-8bb4-ec9870fa02d8_1920x1080.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y4a5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4cfb3cb-62b6-4c22-8bb4-ec9870fa02d8_1920x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The scan is illustrative and is not Fauci&#8217;s actual medical image.</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><a href="https://kirschsubstack.com/p/tony-fauci-was-covid-vaccine-injured">Steve Kirsch begins</a> with a fact.</p><p>On June 19, 2021, <strong>Anthony Fauci</strong> noted in his diary that a pulmonary infarct had been found in his right lung via CT scan, and he was put on the anticoagulant Eliquis.</p><p>Kirsch makes two much grander accusations from there: that Fauci&#8217;s infarct was a result of Fauci&#8217;s Moderna vaccination, and that Fauci <strong>intentionally </strong>concealed the injury in order not to increase vaccine hesitancy.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Does the evidence support the claim?</h2><p>The evidence provided does <strong>not</strong> support either claim.</p><p>That does not prove the vaccine played no role. The public record cannot rule out a contribution in one individual case. But Kirsch has not shown that it did. He turns &#8220;after vaccination&#8221; into &#8220;because of vaccination,&#8221; then uses that unsupported causal claim as evidence of a cover-up.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Our Assessment: Unsupported.</strong> Fauci&#8217;s pulmonary infarct is documented. The public evidence does not establish that vaccination caused it or that he intentionally concealed a vaccine injury.</p></div><div><hr></div><h2>What the diary actually says</h2><p>Senator Rand Paul&#8217;s office published a large collection of Fauci&#8217;s diary entries on July 25, 2026. The <a href="https://www.paul.senate.gov/readingroom/">version now available on Paul&#8217;s Senate website</a> redacts the medical passage, but the initially released file remains available through an <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260725214932/https://www.paul.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/2026.07.24_Tonys-Diary-Package.pdf">archived copy</a>.</p><p>The entry describes a frightening day. Fauci had experienced acute pain in the back of his right chest two days earlier. A CT scan revealed several abnormalities. One radiologist initially worried that a lesion might be lung cancer. Other physicians thought it was more likely inflammatory and recommended another scan in three months.</p><p>The scan also showed a pulmonary infarct. According to Fauci&#8217;s account, one physician said it was &#8220;the only definite thing on the film.&#8221; Fauci wrote that he was told to begin Eliquis immediately.</p><p>That is meaningful evidence that the infarct occurred. It is not evidence that vaccination caused it.</p><p>The entry never mentions a vaccine. It does not say that Fauci suspected one. It does not say that any of his physicians suspected one. It records no diagnosis of a vaccine-related clotting disorder and no instruction to conceal anything.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s argument depends on supplying all of those missing conclusions himself.</p><div><hr></div><h2>A sequence is not a cause</h2><p>Fauci <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/watch-fauci-receives-covid-19-vaccine">publicly received his first Moderna dose</a> on December 22, 2020, and <a href="https://irp.nih.gov/catalyst/29/2/covid-19-timeline-at-nih-january-february-2021">received his second dose</a> on January 19, 2021. The pulmonary infarct was identified on June 19, five months later.</p><p>That establishes a sequence:</p><ol><li><p>Fauci was vaccinated.</p></li><li><p>Five months passed.</p></li><li><p>A pulmonary infarct was found.</p></li></ol><p>It does not establish why the infarct occurred.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-qgu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a2ee058-66b6-47d4-a39b-6bba298c0800_1600x1000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-qgu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a2ee058-66b6-47d4-a39b-6bba298c0800_1600x1000.png 424w, 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The timeline establishes chronology, not vaccine causation.</figcaption></figure></div><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9409643/">Pulmonary infarction</a> is the death of a small area of lung tissue after its blood supply is obstructed, most often because of a pulmonary embolism. Emboli have many possible causes and risk factors, including age, immobility, surgery, cancer, previous clotting, inherited conditions, and other illnesses. Fauci was 80 at the time, and the risk of venous blood clots rises steeply with age. The <a href="https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/venous-thromboembolism/causes">National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute</a> notes that risk nearly doubles with each decade after age 40.</p><p>That does not prove age caused Fauci&#8217;s infarct either. It shows why an individual medical event cannot be assigned to a vaccine from timing alone. A credible assessment would require his relevant medical history, imaging, laboratory findings, other possible risk factors, and the judgment of clinicians who evaluated him.</p><p>Kirsch does not provide the medical history, laboratory findings, or clinical assessment needed to connect the infarct to vaccination.</p><div><hr></div><h2>What the VAERS chart can and cannot show</h2><p>Kirsch&#8217;s main evidence is a chart based on the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS. His chart says the query found 515 reports coded with &#8220;pulmonary infarction,&#8221; with the COVID-19 vaccine category overwhelmingly dominant.</p><p>The chart can show how many reports Kirsch&#8217;s query returned and how they were categorized. It cannot show that COVID vaccines caused those events.</p><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety-systems/vaers/index.html">VAERS</a> is an early-warning system. Anyone can report a health event that occurred after vaccination, even when it is unclear whether the vaccine played any role. The reports can help investigators notice patterns worth studying. They cannot, by themselves, determine that a vaccine caused a reported event.</p><p>That is not a minor disclaimer. It is the central limitation of the database.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s raw count leaves several essential questions unanswered:</p><ul><li><p>How many doses of each vaccine were administered?</p></li><li><p>How old and medically vulnerable were the vaccinated populations?</p></li><li><p>How long was each product in use?</p></li><li><p>Were the reports medically verified?</p></li><li><p>How many were duplicates or follow-up submissions concerning the same event?</p></li><li><p>Did the patients have COVID, cancer, recent surgery, or other clotting risks?</p></li><li><p>Was the rate higher than the rate among comparable unvaccinated people?</p></li><li><p>Did the events occur more often than the ordinary background rate?</p></li></ul><p>Kirsch&#8217;s chart also groups COVID-19 vaccines rather than isolating Moderna. That matters because mRNA vaccines and adenoviral-vector vaccines do not have identical clotting safety profiles. Fauci received Moderna. A count that combines different COVID vaccine products cannot establish a Moderna-specific risk.</p><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety-systems/vaers/access-use.html">VAERS also warns</a> that its public data now include some secondary reports from additional sources concerning the same patient, vaccine, and dose. Those additions do not necessarily represent separate adverse events. A count from a public query should not be assumed to mean the same number of unique, confirmed cases.</p><p>COVID vaccines present an unusual comparison problem. Under the emergency-use authorizations, healthcare providers had to report all serious adverse events after vaccination regardless of whether vaccination caused them. COVID vaccination also involved hundreds of millions of doses, exceptional public attention, and intense safety surveillance. Raw report counts across different vaccines and different eras therefore cannot be interpreted as comparative incidence rates or causal risks.</p><p>A large number of reports can identify a signal to investigate. It cannot tell us whether a vaccine caused one person&#8217;s infarct.</p><p>Kirsch&#8217;s own chart appears to plot small nonzero counts for other vaccine categories, including influenza and pneumonia, despite his statement that COVID vaccines are the only vaccines linked to such reports. But even if every other category showed zero, his logic would still fail. A report does not prove causation, and the absence of a report does not prove that an event has never occurred.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Five months is not a validated risk window</h2><p><span>Kirsch goes on to claim that Fauci&#8217;s five-month timeframe aligns with the onset reports from VAERS.<br><br>The graph he shares illustrates a wide array of events reported, ranging from the day of vaccination to several years later, including cases where the timing is unknown. If we consider any point within that timeline as proof, then the test is bound to succeed. Almost any subsequent medical event could be deemed &#8220;consistent.&#8221;<br><br>Before diving into individual cases, it&#8217;s essential to establish a meaningful risk window. Researchers typically look for a plausible biological timeframe and check if the event occurs more frequently during that period compared to a relevant comparison group or timeframe.<br><br>However, Kirsch doesn&#8217;t do this. He simply notes that some reports happened around the five-month mark and takes that as validation.<br><br>Kirsch is on firmer ground when he says events with long onset intervals are less likely to be reported. The CDC notes that events occurring within days or weeks of vaccination are more likely to reach VAERS than events with longer onset intervals. But that reporting bias does not establish the cause of an event or validate five months as a risk window. </span></p><p><span>Kirsch provides no estimate of how many reports were missed, no biological reason for selecting five months, and no comparison with the background rate. Underreporting cannot turn his onset graph into evidence that Moderna caused Fauci&#8217;s infarct.</span></p><div><hr></div><h2>What stronger evidence shows</h2><p>Comparative epidemiological studies with defined risk windows and population denominators are better suited to assess pulmonary-embolism risk than raw reports without a comparison group. These studies can still miss extremely rare reactions or effects confined to particular subgroups, so their limitations matter.</p><p>Most of this research measures pulmonary embolism, not pulmonary infarction as a separate outcome. It is relevant because pulmonary embolism is the most common cause of pulmonary infarction, but it is not a direct study of infarction itself. Even with that limitation, the available evidence does not support calling pulmonary infarction a known Moderna side effect.</p><p>A <a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/read/27746/chapter/8">2024 National Academies review</a> examined the evidence on deep-vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism after COVID vaccination. For Moderna, the committee concluded that the available evidence was inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship. That careful language reflects limitations in the research. It does not mean causation was shown. The two studies available to the committee did not find an increased risk after Moderna vaccination.</p><p>A later nationwide Swedish cohort study included more than 7.5 million people and examined pulmonary embolism across risk windows extending to 180 days. In its fully adjusted analyses, it found no increased risk after Moderna vaccination. It did find modest increases after a first Pfizer dose in the 28- through 180-day windows, after a third Pfizer dose in the 90- and 180-day windows, and after a first AstraZeneca dose across several windows. </p><p>The authors cautioned that prioritizing frailer people for early vaccination could have introduced selection bias or residual confounding. Pfizer was used about six times as often as Moderna, so the Moderna evidence came from a smaller exposure group.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cn3y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db8381d-8024-4cae-b7bf-92560dd2c993_2406x1525.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cn3y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db8381d-8024-4cae-b7bf-92560dd2c993_2406x1525.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cn3y!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db8381d-8024-4cae-b7bf-92560dd2c993_2406x1525.png 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cn3y!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db8381d-8024-4cae-b7bf-92560dd2c993_2406x1525.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cn3y!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db8381d-8024-4cae-b7bf-92560dd2c993_2406x1525.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cn3y!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db8381d-8024-4cae-b7bf-92560dd2c993_2406x1525.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cn3y!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8db8381d-8024-4cae-b7bf-92560dd2c993_2406x1525.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" 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The Academies nevertheless judged the overall evidence inadequate to accept or reject causation.</figcaption></figure></div><p>That 180-day analysis is especially relevant because Fauci&#8217;s infarct was discovered about five months after his second dose.</p><p>A U.S. Medicare self-controlled study of people 65 and older reported an adjusted incidence rate ratio of 1.15 after Moderna&#8217;s primary series, with a 95% confidence interval from 0.94 to 1.41. That result was not statistically significant. The Moderna booster estimate was 0.87, with a 95% confidence interval from 0.79 to 0.96.</p><p>The same study found a modest statistically significant increase after Pfizer&#8217;s primary series, with an estimate of 1.19 and a 95% confidence interval from 1.03 to 1.38. Its results were therefore not uniformly null across mRNA products. The study&#8217;s medical-record review also confirmed only 45% of the pulmonary-embolism cases identified from billing codes, showing how outcome misclassification complicated these estimates.</p><p>None of these studies can prove that vaccination played no role in every individual event. Rare adverse reactions can be difficult to identify, and population-level findings do not substitute for a patient&#8217;s full medical record. But they are far more informative than raw VAERS counts, and they do not establish the risk Kirsch claims is already known.</p><p>The current <a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/155675/download">FDA prescribing information for Spikevax</a>, Moderna&#8217;s COVID vaccine, warns about myocarditis and pericarditis. It does not list pulmonary infarction or pulmonary embolism as an established adverse reaction.</p><div><hr></div><h2>A real clotting syndrome, attached to the wrong evidence</h2><p>COVID vaccines have caused serious adverse effects. TTS is one example, but it does not fit the public evidence in Fauci&#8217;s case.</p><p>Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, or TTS, is a rare disorder involving unusual blood clots together with a low platelet count. It has been causally linked to the Johnson &amp; Johnson vaccine and to AstraZeneca&#8217;s vaccine outside the United States, generally with onset within days to a few weeks.</p><p>The National Academies found that the evidence favors acceptance of a causal relationship between the Johnson &amp; Johnson vaccine and TTS. For Pfizer and Moderna, it found that the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship.</p><p>This shows how a suspected safety signal is evaluated: investigators identify a specific syndrome, a defined risk window, a concentration in particular vaccine products, and a plausible clinical mechanism. In the Johnson &amp; Johnson case, that investigation ultimately supported causation.<span><br><br>In Fauci&#8217;s diary, he mentions a pulmonary infarct occurring five months after receiving a Moderna shot. However, there&#8217;s no mention of low platelets, TTS, or any other recognized vaccine-related clotting issue.<br><br>Labeling all post-vaccination clotting incidents as the same &#8220;known side effect&#8221; blurs crucial distinctions that are vital for understanding medical causation.</span></p><div><hr></div><h2>The concealment claim rests on another assumption</h2><p>Even if Kirsch had established that vaccination caused Fauci&#8217;s infarct, he would still need evidence for his accusation that Fauci deliberately stayed silent to avoid fueling vaccine hesitancy.</p><p>He presents no such evidence.</p><p>The subject was raised directly at Fauci&#8217;s July 29 Senate hearing. Senator Ron Johnson asked whether the pulmonary infarction could have been caused by COVID-19 vaccination. Fauci declined to answer, invoking the Fifth Amendment, as he did repeatedly throughout the hearing. <a href="https://www.notus.org/health-science/anthony-fauci-fifth-amendment-rand-paul-covid-origin-hearing-lab-gain-of-function?utm_source=chatgpt.com">NOTUS reported the exchange</a>.</p><p>Fauci&#8217;s refusal leaves his answer unknown. It does not establish that the vaccine caused the infarct, that Fauci believed it did, or that he deliberately concealed that belief.</p><p>Kirsch presents no statement from Fauci attributing the infarct to vaccination and no medical opinion in the diary doing so. He provides no message instructing anyone to suppress a diagnosis, no record of Fauci denying it when asked, and no evidence of his alleged motive.</p><p>Not publicly announcing a private medical condition is not proof of concealing a vaccine injury, particularly when the available record does not show that Fauci or his doctors considered it one.</p><p>The later redaction shows that the Senate office changed the publicly available file after the original release. It does not show who requested the change or why. It says nothing about what caused the infarct or what Fauci believed in 2021.</p><p>This point does not require anyone to trust Fauci. His conduct on other pandemic questions can be evaluated on its own evidence. Distrust of a person is not a substitute for proof of a particular medical cause or a particular act of deception.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png" width="1100" height="110" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:110,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:17860,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://amindlesswasted.substack.com/i/209141610?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Or80!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0c556e0-ff0a-46d0-94b5-f48a239befba_1100x110.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Are we making the opposite mistake?</h3><p>Saying Kirsch has not proved vaccine causation is not the same as saying Moderna definitely played no role.</p><p>The National Academies did not conclude that Moderna cannot cause pulmonary embolism. It concluded that the evidence was inadequate to accept or reject causation. The Medicare primary-series estimate was not statistically significant, but its confidence interval included both no increase and a potentially meaningful increase. VAERS may also contain genuine vaccine injuries, even though raw reports alone cannot tell us which ones they are.</p><p>There is also a fair ethical question: Given Fauci&#8217;s unusually public role, should he have disclosed a serious clotting event that occurred months after vaccination? People can reasonably disagree. But that is separate from Kirsch&#8217;s factual claim that Fauci knew the vaccine caused the infarct and concealed it to reduce vaccine hesitancy. The evidence presented does not establish either premise.</p><p>Our conclusion therefore has to remain narrow. The public evidence does not establish that Moderna caused Fauci&#8217;s infarct. It also does not allow us to prove that vaccination played no role.</p><div><hr></div><h3>What would change our conclusion?</h3><p>This assessment should change if stronger evidence emerges.</p><p>Relevant evidence might include:</p><ul><li><p>Medical records showing that Fauci&#8217;s treating physicians diagnosed a vaccine-related mechanism</p></li><li><p>Laboratory or pathology findings consistent with a recognized vaccine-induced clotting syndrome</p></li><li><p>Comparative epidemiological evidence showing an increased Moderna-associated risk of pulmonary embolism or infarction around five months</p></li><li><p>A message, diary entry or testimony showing that Fauci believed the vaccine caused the event and deliberately hid that conclusion from the public</p></li></ul><p>Kirsch supplies none of these.</p><div><hr></div><h2>The bottom line</h2><p>On June 19, 2021, a CT scan found that Anthony Fauci had a pulmonary infarct. That fact comes from his diary and should not be minimized.</p><p>The diary does not identify Moderna as the cause. Kirsch&#8217;s VAERS chart cannot establish that connection, and his onset graph does not validate a five-month causal window. The comparative studies discussed here did not detect a statistically significant increase in pulmonary-embolism risk after Moderna, while the National Academies judged the overall evidence inadequate to accept or reject causation.</p><p>The leap from &#8220;Fauci had a pulmonary infarct after vaccination&#8221; to &#8220;Fauci suffered a vaccine injury&#8221; is unsupported. The further claim that Fauci knew the vaccine caused it and hid that conclusion to protect vaccine confidence is speculation.</p><p>The public record cannot rule out a vaccine contribution to one individual event. Kirsch&#8217;s evidence does not establish one. </p><p>It certainly does not establish a cover-up.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><em>If this helped you see how a documented event can be turned into a causal claim the evidence does not support, subscribe to A Mind Less Wasted. And if someone you know has encountered the claim that Fauci hid a vaccine injury, send them the evidence.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.amindlesswasted.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></div><h2>Resources</h2><ul><li><p><a href="https://kirschsubstack.com/p/tony-fauci-was-covid-vaccine-injured?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Steve Kirsch: &#8220;Tony Fauci was COVID vaccine injured&#8221;</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.paul.senate.gov/readingroom/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Senator Rand Paul&#8217;s Reading Room</a></p></li><li><p>Archived copy of Fauci&#8217;s diary</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/watch-fauci-receives-covid-19-vaccine?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Fauci receives his first Moderna dose</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://irp.nih.gov/catalyst/29/2/covid-19-timeline-at-nih-january-february-2021?utm_source=chatgpt.com">NIH timeline documenting Fauci&#8217;s second dose</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety-systems/vaers/index.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC: About VAERS</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety-systems/vaers/access-use.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC: How to interpret VAERS data</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">VAERS reporting requirements and limitations</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/read/27746/chapter/8?utm_source=chatgpt.com">National Academies: Deep-vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.nationalacademies.org/read/27746/chapter/7?utm_source=chatgpt.com">National Academies: Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11513630/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Swedish nationwide study of pulmonary embolism after COVID vaccination</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10266501/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">U.S. Medicare study of thromboembolic events after COVID vaccination</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/155675/download?utm_source=chatgpt.com">FDA prescribing information for Spikevax</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9409643/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Clinical review of pulmonary infarction</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/venous-thromboembolism/causes?utm_source=chatgpt.com">National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute: Venous thromboembolism</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/hearings/testimony-of-anthony-fauci/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Official Senate hearing record</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.notus.org/health-science/anthony-fauci-fifth-amendment-rand-paul-covid-origin-hearing-lab-gain-of-function?utm_source=chatgpt.com">NOTUS report on Senator Johnson&#8217;s question</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/surv-manual/php/table-of-contents/chapter-21-vaers.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com">CDC surveillance manual: VAERS strengths and limitations</a></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>